Barbell holder for deadlifts

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It's always been a problem that when I warm up, the bar has very small weights on it and basically just sits next to the ground. As I add bigger weights, the bar sits higher. This is like asking to be injured, so I made some stands to hold the bar at an appropriate height all the time. As an extra benefit, the stands add 1 cm of extra clearance under the big plates, making them easy to add and remove.  I started with two angle irons for the top, welded together since I don't have anything thicker. The weld is ugly partly because I welded it off-center and went over it again to make sure it wouldn't crack through the toe. It could also be prettier if I beveled it, but I was worried about weakening the angle irons.I'm not very good at clamping things at angles. Just don't know how and may not have the right tools. I didn't cope the edge because as a (busy) hobbyist, I should be making projects fast or not at all.Here's how the bar sits on the supports. The first support (right) was such a pain to cut and clamp that I changed the design for the other support (left). The feet are ugly because of poor fit-up and me not wanting to figure out how to clamp something so small.Last edited by piojo; 11-04-2014 at 03:20 AM.
Reply:If you look closely, you can see that I had to make a bunch of parallel beads on the top to keep the bar from rolling. I kept the amps low and tried to move fast to minimize stress and weakening. Everything was done with stick, using 5/64" E6013 at 30-45A. (There's no other rod available here for thin mild steel.)Last edited by piojo; 11-04-2014 at 03:21 AM.
Reply:I get what you are trying to do but after a set of deadlifts or upright rows or shrugs, you might be a tad clumsy and violent when you release. I'd throw those in the scrap bin and add a lower set of holes in your rack. Safest/most reliable IMO. Or if that's not possible, weld tabs directly to the rack.Last edited by KennethD; 11-04-2014 at 07:45 AM.
Reply:Eh, the greatest distance it could fall when fully loaded is 1 cm. I'm not worried, unless the stands break after my back has relaxed but while I'm still gripping the bar. And I don't think I could convince the gym owner to let me weld on his power cage, particularly when the modification would be at my preferred height, not necessarily that of his other customers. It's a good idea though, I'm tempted.
Reply:I like the creativity and very similar designs are used for partials.   However, why not a cheap set of 10 pound bumpers.   I would suggest rogue
Reply:My problem is sliding on a bunch of 45lb plates. I need to make something to hold the bar off the ground for loading and unloading so I don't have to fight with the bar and ground to add and remove plates.www.FirehouseFabricators.comZachLincoln 210mpLincoln SW200Hypertherm Powermax 45xp2x4 CNC Plasma Table.
Reply:Originally Posted by BrooklynBravestMy problem is sliding on a bunch of 45lb plates. I need to make something to hold the bar off the ground for loading and unloading so I don't have to fight with the bar and ground to add and remove plates.
Reply:'' And I don't think I could convince the gym owner to let me weld on his power cage, particularly when the modification would be at my preferred height, not necessarily that of his other customers.''No welding on HIS equipment. Fab up a couple of '' SET IN AND LOWER '' brackets. Make brackets to set in a pair of spaced holes on both sides with a extended arm ninety degrees to hold bar. The bracket would be similar to the metal shelving that is made.  Yours would drop down lower to the height required but same principal. There are many designs out there. http://reviews.truevalue.com/9048/35...ws/reviews.htm
Reply:at least round off the sharp corners?!i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by farmer2I like the creativity and very similar designs are used for partials.   However, why not a cheap set of 10 pound bumpers.   I would suggest rogue
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Reply:Just don't make a bench press setup
Reply:U need to weld hotter! Usually the most important thing is strength. Really important with what ur doing.  I'm no pro but u can see how the bead is just sitting on the metal. And ur moving to fast for such low amps. U can see how the bead gets very very skinny in many areas. Dead lifts are supposed to been done on the ground anyway. And why does stuff need to get done so fast?? Take ur time
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313Just don't make a bench press setup
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Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313U need to weld hotter! Usually the most important thing is strength. Really important with what ur doing.  I'm no pro but u can see how the bead is just sitting on the metal. And ur moving to fast for such low amps. U can see how the bead gets very very skinny in many areas.
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Reply:Those look horrible. Real horrible.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:U have good and plenty of metal there. U need a better design!
Reply:What most people who do things fast fail to realize is it always takes longer to do things twice. I would go back to the drawing board on these. I'm sure you can make them better if you take more time. I would get some scrap metal and get the welds down a little better. Have patience.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeThose look horrible. Real horrible.
Reply:Just remember man no one here was born putting down badass welds. It takes many years to master this stuff. My father in law has been welding for almost 40 yrs now and he is still learning new things. I just got on this site and notice it seems like a rough crowd in here. Don't let that get to you, just keep practicing. Take pride in your work. Good luck.
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313U have good and plenty of metal there. U need a better design!
Reply:why not flip the angle upside down so the bar will rest inside the V ....then there's no reason for questionable welds all over the top that probably won't help much anyway... you can cut a 45 on one side of your upright pieces so they fit on the inverted angle, as shown in this seriously professional blueprint that I took sooo long to draw up for you. lol. hope this helps. Millermatic 211 Miller Blue Fire 140@swiftwelding on Instagram
Reply:U should put some more passes on there. That all by itself is practice. Fill that puppy up with some beads. The root is the most important. Try runing them in hotterOriginally Posted by Swiftywhy not flip the angle upside down so the bar will rest inside the V ....then there's no reason for questionable welds all over the top that probably won't help much anyway... you can cut a 45 on one side of your upright pieces so they fit on the inverted angle, as shown in this seriously professional blueprint that I took sooo long to draw up for you. lol. hope this helps.
Reply:Put more welds everywhere. Ur welds are to cold. U should just start over tho. Make the piece in the  picture the guy gave u in the beginning of this. That is a excellent idea. Go to ur local steel yard and dig in the scrap bin and make that. There way smaller to.
Reply:And buy a 4 1/2 inch grinder from harbor freight. I thought u said u beveled the edges how did u do that with out a grinder? Dremels are for kids. Get a 1/4 electric grinder and a 1/4 carbide burr. Those are like 30 bucks for that size burr. And clean the metal to!
Reply:I ment 1/2 in burr
Reply:Originally Posted by burnt09From one hobby welder to another; don't be afraid to buy extra metal and practice the welds before you start on the final product. What type of welder did you use?
Reply:I guess I don't get it - why are you making something to dead lift from higher than the floor?If you are putting on a lot of plates, put on one, then roll it onto a smaller weight to get it off the ground for the rest.And as one person suggested, practice a lot more - easiest way to get better is to practice - even the pros do it.Edit:  I see it now, you want the bar higher when you use small weights.I generally see people use a wood "weight" the size of the 45's to do this part.Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 11-05-2014 at 11:19 AM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI guess I don't get it - why are you making something to dead lift from higher than the floor?If you are putting on a lot of plates, put on one, then roll it onto a smaller weight to get it off the ground for the rest.And as one person suggested, practice a lot more - easiest way to get better is to practice - even the pros do it.Edit:  I see it now, you want the bar higher when you use small weights.I generally see people use a wood "weight" the size of the 45's to do this part.
Reply:Those photos show a lot of sharp corners. Might be an idea to use a grinder to round some of them off a touch.
Reply:Yes, practice is the answer. BEFORE welding on the ACTUAL project, run some test beads on the same thickness of material. This will allow you to set the heat without a bunch of poor beads on the actual  one.   Try to locate a scrap yard for recycle material. It looks like you are in Hong Kong ; You might be on your own there. I don't know of any members that may help. Good luck.
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Reply:Buy a used chop saw for like 40 to 80 bucks depending on budget. Go try to find 2 in wide by 1/8 flat bar and cut to about 6 inches long. That's the best way to save time bc u only gota cut once and u have a good piece of metal. But weld t-joint and butt joints. And outside corner. Tube on flat bar in really good pratice and alot of fun to. Not just beads on a flat plate. And no one has said this yet but WHATCH welding tips and tricks until u hate it and keep ur eye on the puddle. He's a pro
Reply:Thanks for the great advice, everyone! Tomorrow I'll be getting some metal for practice and borrowing/renting a chop saw to make coupons. And I never realized that I should be making project-specific practice instead of general practice, but that's evident now, thank you. (Particularly for my next project, which is heavy duty shelving. Shelving will hurt/kill me if done badly enough.)
Reply:I second the idea of building a custom "dropped" j bracket and use the existing holes on the rack.  Solid design, and removeable. Especially if you planned on dragging your jack stands to and from the gym in a duffle bag lol. I thought this was a home gym.. There's an idea, modify a couple of cheapo hf jack stands with a wider catch on top to recieve the bar. Have fun p.s. That's the first time I came across the 'tip' that increasing travel spd increased pen.. I'd get that clarified.
Reply:I don't mean to get ur confidence down but ur just not ready to be making anything heavy duty to hold alot of wieght. Don't do it. Ur gona wast money and time. Mabey after about 75 t-joints. Get some cheater glasses to!!!!!!!! If u do weld somthing heavy duty put alot of gussets in and bunch of passes. But u gota get a solid first pass in. Post up another pic once you have done a bunch of joints. And it does take alot more heat to weld a t-joint unlike a outside corner.
Reply:Originally Posted by KennethDThat's the first time I came across the 'tip' that increasing travel spd increased pen.. I'd get that clarified.
Reply:Go take those to a bend test and see what happens. 75 is not that much! 10 15 a day. U would probley have some nice looking welds in a week. Give it a try!!  Try making some dice like Jodie did. So that way you don't feel like your wasting metal. I get brand new metal from a indoor metal place. 40 cents a pound for steel and 250 for AL. And AL is a third of the weight so really it's not much more then steel. I got confidence in u man.
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Reply:These were drilled with a hand drill. I don't have a fancy drill press yet. I have improved alot sense I made these. As u can see undercut. Not enough filler
Reply:Get a chop saw!!!! Good luck cutting a strait line with a hack saw. And blades don't last long and are not cheap. On the other hand u would have forearms and shoulders like Popeyes. 1/4 is not fun to cut through with a hack saw. And u need the vise to be on somthing pretty darn stable.