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I am looking to add a water cooler torch to my syncrowave 200. Does anyone know if the coolmate 3 is relieved on the bottom to clear the lifting eye on the top of the syncrowave 200?Thanks, JasonSent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Reply:If there were an indent, we would not have had to put a couple 4 x 4's on top of the Syncrowave 250 welder to put the Coolmate 3 on top there.  That said, in perfect hindsight, we asked ourselves this tonight: "Selves (we said), WTF were we thinking, putting the water cooler on top of the frikkin welder?"  My son and I don't agree on many things, but we both agreed that putting water on top of big-*** electrical stuff just wasn't right.Edit:Steve, you mean there's a slit we can stuff that thing into?  Who would have guessed. Dang."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Thank you, I have a pretty regular job I running with my syncrowave that has me running around 170 amps. The torch gets pretty hot, I can't pull the tail cap off without a glove on. I would like to upgrade to the Dynasty 350 so my plan is to get a cooler that will handle the output of the Dynasty.Jason.Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Reply:Check your hoses and connections and all that.  Not sure of the thermal cooling capacity of a Coolmate 3 but it's not small.  Torch?"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Don't have a torch picked out yet. Thinking of a CK of some sort. I have a WP17  currently and in order to do the parts I have to run a stubby gas lens and a the stubby tail cap. Might also build a cooler for now as the Dynasty 350 tig runner seems to be the best deal, but it makes you spend a lot of money all at once.JasonSent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Reply:I will put the Trimline 18 on my list, Just missed a Coolmate 3 on ebay!! Oh well I will keep my eyes open.Thanks for the information.Jason
Reply:This IS where I am trying to fit the torch. might look at getting the next size smaller torch. Not sure on the amperage capacity though.
Reply:I use a CK 20 series with a Coolmate 3 with no issues.  My welder puts out 300 amps, so a bit less than a D350.  CK torches are designed to handle more amps than their generic counterparts in the same series.  I love the feel of a 20 compared to a 17/18/26.  I guess it's what you learn on and get used to.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:Thanks for the photo!!JasonSent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by Drf255I use a CK 20 series with a Coolmate 3 with no issues.  My welder puts out 300 amps, so a bit less than a D350.  CK torches are designed to handle more amps than their generic counterparts in the same series.  I love the feel of a 20 compared to a 17/18/26.  I guess it's what you learn on and get used to.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749No problem. It's easy to miss if you never flip it over, and most ppl buying them to use aren't going to have a need to do so.They actually let me take it yesterday. It came with two other machines I purchased. Phasing out a bunch of broken, older stuff. I think it needs a pump and some looking over, but they're some of the best coolers Miller made.If you don't find anything, I will eventually rebuild and part with it, but I got my plate pretty full with machine jobs right now so I wouldn't be getting to it for awhile.
Reply:Well I won a Cool-mate 3 on E bay Saturday morning, i also found a 20 series torch in the junk pile at work no collet, collet body, cup, or tail cap. I picked up a gas lens, collet, cup, and tail cap but the collet will not tighten up on the electrode. Any Ideas?Jason
Reply:I have the CK 230, which is a 20-style torch rated at 300A. It's slightly larger than a generic 20 but a lot smaller than even the Trimline 18. It replaced a Weldcraft 18, difference of night and day. Using it on my ancient 300GTSW, which will be replaced by a Dyn280 when the last of the magic smoke escapes.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Originally Posted by Silicon-basedI have the CK 230, which is a 20-style torch rated at 300A. It's slightly larger than a generic 20 but a lot smaller than even the Trimline 18. It replaced a Weldcraft 18, difference of night and day. Using it on my ancient 300GTSW, which will be replaced by a Dyn280 when the last of the magic smoke escapes.John
Reply:Not that impressed with the new Lincoln TIG. Over 100 lbs., serious single-phase de-rating. The Lincoln guys told me they were going to have a 275A model that would be more portable but no word on that lately. There are some things I don't like about the Miller, especially the software BS where they charge you to "unlock" features that are already built in.    If size and weight were not an issue I would have bought a Dyn350 already. (Maybe a Dynasty 700!) JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:The Dynastys are actually much improved over the Thermal Arc TIGs circuitry-wise and draw a lot less current from the power line. I work in two different shops, one of which has only a 100A single-phase service that would not be cost-effective to upgrade. That plus the need to move my equipment between shops makes me appreciate modern inverter welders. The Lincoln Power Waves have no single-phase de-rating and I was hoping that some of that sophistication would rub off on their new TIGs but apparently not. In terms of portability and power consumption I don't see anything out there that can beat the Dyn280 at the moment.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Well the old wallet has taken a hit this morning, CK212SF-FX and cover on its way, along with 4 gallons of Miller Coolant for the Cool-mate 3. Now if my customer would pay my invoices.........Jason
Reply:This would be I want to switch to a water cooled torch.Also, the lifting eye on a syncrowave 200 has the eye to the side and does not line up with the deeper part of the recess on the bottom of the coolmate3
Reply:OK I got the new heat exchanger installed and replaced all if the hoses, filled the unit with water installed a hose from the outlet to the inlet, fired it up and was working great, good flow through the flow indicator. So I drained the water filled the coolmate with coolant an connected my new CK212SF-FX using a CK gas thru Dinse connector. Turned the unit on and could not get any through the flow indicator. I disconnected the torch and connected a hose from the outlet to the inlet. I turned the unit on, good flow through the indicator. I then reconnected the torch and again no flow, I then disconnected the return line and there is just a trickle of coolant coming out. I then disconnected the return from the Dinse adapter, trickle, disconnected the red line from the torch and still just a trickle.Could it just be a pressure bypass adjustment? Any help Would be appreciated.JasonSent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Reply:Sounds like the torch or lines.  Call CK, they are VERY helpful.  Connect a line to the cooler output and pump the coolant back into the containers.  You don't want to play around and waste that stuff @ $30 a gallon.  Use distilled water for now.  If you cooler is pumping out normally, it's gotta be the lines.  Theres a possibility it's putting out volume and not pressure.  It's used after all.  Some procon pumps have a pressure adjustment under an acorn nut on the side of the pump.  Not sure if the CM3 has that type of pump or not.  With the CK torch attached, you should be getting 1liter per minute of flow out of your return line.  That usually what they call for.   Show us some pics of your setup, especially the connections and the Dinse.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:I do believe it does have the Pressure adjustment. My fear however is that when the unit froze and ruptured the heat exchanger it my have also damaged the pump. I will also connect a pressure gauge to the cooler output to see if the pump is putting out enough pressure to flow a liter a minute through the small lines of the torch. I will pick up some distilled water after work and check things out.Thank you for your input.Jason
Reply:Originally Posted by atlascycleI do believe it does have the Pressure adjustment. My fear however is that when the unit froze and ruptured the heat exchanger it my have also damaged the pump. I will also connect a pressure gauge to the cooler output to see if the pump is putting out enough pressure to flow a liter a minute through the small lines of the torch. I will pick up some distilled water after work and check things out.Thank you for your input.Jason
Reply:So I got home today and pumped out the coolant. Put 2 gallons of distilled water in the cooler. Put a tee on the pump outlet and added a pressure gauge. I then looped a line from the outlet to the inlet with a ball valve between them. I fired up the cooler and closed the flow off and didn't hardly get any pressure. I turned up the pump to around 50 psi. When I reconnected the torch I had to turn the pressure down a bit and I finally got flow through the indicator. So I pumped out the water and got about a gallon and a half out of the 2. I put in. I poured about a gallon and 3/4 of the coolant back in the cooler and then about 2/3 of a gallon of the distilled water in.I will post some pictures in the morning.JasonSent from my Xoom using Tapatalk