Floating ball flow meter

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My old regulators were like oxy / acetylene regulators. My new one that came with the Dynasty 280 is the little tower, a ball rises higher with greater flow. Not that it matters, I set it where I get a minimum of black goo without wasting argon. When I read the scale, is it the top of the ball I line up with, or the middle?
Reply:The bottom of the ball.Airco Ac/Dc 300 HeliwelderMillerMatic 200 (stolen)Miller Maxstar 150STLMiller AEAD200LE (welding and generating power) Hobart MIG
Reply:Being a Miller/Smith, I would guess that's what you received, they read in the middle of the ball."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugThe bottom of the ball.
Reply:Originally Posted by Willie BMy old regulators were like oxy / acetylene regulators. My new one that came with the Dynasty 280 is the little tower, a ball rises higher with greater flow. Not that it matters, I set it where I get a minimum of black goo without wasting argon. When I read the scale, is it the top of the ball I line up with, or the middle?
Reply:"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:I believe I run Victor (hard to remember honestly), but I know it says right on the scale "set to top of ball"bosses stuff:trailblazer 325maxstar 200my stuff:sa 200fronius transpocket 180100 amp Lincoln w/f97 f350 DITKevin
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveAnd I've seen directions for meters that say the middle and the top...Must just have to go by the directions for the particular meter?
Reply:So far we've got responses for bottom, middle, and top.  Does that help clear it up?
Reply:You should get one of these and put the issue to rest.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Shovelon, I like toys, just ask tbone and 7A749!!! So either give me your address, or tell me where you got that and what's the proper name. I do prefer your address though!!!"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:I have ones that say middle and top.   Should specify right on the clear housing somewhere.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manShovelon, I like toys, just ask tbone and 7A749!!! So either give me your address, or tell me where you got that and what's the proper name. I do prefer your address though!!!
Reply:My Victor states "Top of Ball"GlenMiller Dynasty 200DX - Millermatic 350P - Hypertherm Powermax 45Want to sell!! - Hobart Handler 150
Reply:They SAY on the gauge where to read the ball. There is no 'standard'... assume they're all different, because they basically are.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonYou should get one of these and put the issue to rest.
Reply:If ya take a close look at the glass tube you will notice one side reads ARGON..The other side reads HELIUM...At least mine does..I go by the middle of the ball..Or whats coming out of the torch....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:I'm with Zap,I go by the middle of the ball, close enuff  for government work.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416I'm with Zap,I go by the middle of the ball, close enuff  for government work.
Reply:Originally Posted by copeMy expression used to be "good enough for the girls  we run with", but my wife heard me say it one time.
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Reply:How about just looking at the relationship between the ball and the zero mark when there is no flow thru the meter?  Mine lines up at the top of the ball. Take care. BurtHF DUAL MIG 171 w/ Multiple Mods.WSME-200 AC/DC TIG PULSE/MMACUT-50 PLASMA
Reply:Originally Posted by vwguy3But where do you read the ball.......top, bottom or middle
Reply:Honestly how much flow difference can it be from top to bottom?On a Victor HRF 2425 it's 5 CFH.Last edited by vwguy3; 09-25-2014 at 03:58 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by fluvannabearHow about just looking at the relationship between the ball and the zero mark when there is no flow thru the meter?  Mine lines up at the top of the ball. Take care. BurtOriginally Posted by vwguy3Honestly how much flow difference can it be from top to bottom?On a Victor HRF 2425 it's 5 CFH.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI think 5 cfh is significant - 15 cfh and 20 cfh are pretty far off.330/15=22 hours330/20=16.5 hoursI know, I'm cheap
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonHmmmm. First step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem.
Reply:If anyone wants a flow tester here it ishttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Shield-Gas-F...b1b93#shpCntIdwww.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416If anyone wants a flow tester here it ishttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Shield-Gas-F...b1b93#shpCntId
Reply:I didn't know it was so preciseIf it matters that much then I would think be consistantTop bottom or middle just do it the same each timeWhat do I know, I'm miserly and just look for flowBTW , just got a new to me CK 17 air cooled TIG rig. Had the 2nd tank of 330cu Ft He for over year but no TIG rigYippee kie ayeGood to know about Ar/He gauge ZAPDo you really think its gonna help me though lolLast edited by Insaneride; 09-26-2014 at 12:21 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by copeMy expression used to be "good enough for the girls we run with", but my wife heard me say it one time.
Reply:If in doubt use the middle of the ball.That way you will get half the error you would get if you read the bottom when you should have read the top and vice versa.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonThat is graduated in Liters per minute. Me no like. Quoted from listing;
Reply:wb4rt: Actually it is short for Burton. You are ahead on posts but I have you on years. LOL. Thanks for the welcome. I do have one of the flow meter measurement tools on order so I can check both TIG and MIG flows. Take care. Burt (K4MTV).HF DUAL MIG 171 w/ Multiple Mods.WSME-200 AC/DC TIG PULSE/MMACUT-50 PLASMA
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI don't know why they list to divide by the decimal 0.472 - people can't do that easily in their head.Multiplying by 2.1 (or just double it) people can do quickly and without having a math phobia flashback to 5th grade
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonYeah, but that is a close to a 6% difference between .472 and .5.  Me no like. Just buy the one from Net welding.com that reads in cfh.
Reply:I have three on stationary machines branded L-Tec so I don't know the manufacturer, but I've always set them to the top of the ball and not had problems. Been so long since adjusting any of them I don't remember their settings.......SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:Yow! I think I'll stick(!) with my gauged flow meter. -c-
Reply:When first I started reading this post I purchased one of these units, (Oxweld p/n 19043) for about $40 bucks delivered.  Reason being, I have three of the flowmeters and wanted to see how accurate they were.  My Smith units were right on the nuts but my Victor unit was off by about 8 scfh all being read on the appropriate scales for the type of gas used.  Then I started to wonder, how accurate is this tester?  Just putting this out there for the curiosity of the subject.   Bob
Reply:Originally Posted by rhunt. . . Then I started to wonder, how accurate is this tester?  Just putting this out there for the curiosity of the subject. . . .   Bob
Reply:Originally Posted by cornemuseYow! I think I'll stick(!) with my gauged flow meter. -c-
Reply:Originally Posted by pin2hot"A man with a watch always knows what time it is.  A man with 2 watches is never quite sure."In any case, OH, BALLS, I want one!
Reply:Originally Posted by rhunt  Then I started to wonder, how accurate is this tester?  Just putting this out there for the curiosity of the subject.   Bob
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveDo I have to work on recovery for all my problems, or just this one? ...there is only so much time in a day
Reply:Originally Posted by vwguy3Flow guage.....
Reply:I got the flow tester from ARC-ZONE today the only thing good about it was the M&M that came in the pack it was a weast of money don't work for crap. Oh, well you live and learn.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416I got the flow tester from ARC-ZONE today the only thing good about it was the M&M that came in the pack it was a weast of money don't work for crap. Oh, well you live and learn.
Reply:Its not worth sending back. They may send it to someone else and I wouldn't want to see that happen.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonWell let me help you with that. List all your problems and I will prioritize for you.