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Lincoln Weldanpower 225 found dead, will it live again?

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Here I go again,Taking in someone else's junk, and trying to bring it back to life.Sometimes it seems like thats all I ever get done!But that is my motto and I am a sucker for a deal, and can't say no!This time its a Lincoln Weldanpower  Model # AC-225/DC-210/6 portable, Onan powered gas driven welder. I haven't been over to see it yet, I was planing a trip down to Dayton Ohio for tomorrow, and this welder I happen to come across is in Springfield Ohio, about 30 miles from Dayton.I plan on bringing it home with me and see if I can resurrect it from the dead and save it from certain doom "The scrap yard"The owner, about 6 years ago, had already taken the motor off of it, and has it all apart and in boxes and baskets, in other words, a real basket case!He gave up on it after finding that one piston and rod had let loose, but said it didn't damage the block "we will have to see about that"even if it did damage the block, "of which I doubt, those Onans are pretty tough" I already have a good block lined up for it just in case, even though it came out of a JD garden tractor, red and green ought to go good together, don't ya think! The price is right, or I would be a bit concerned with weather or not the welder/generator head is any good or not, if not, I will file it all and keep my eyes open for another to use for parts!Heres some pictures to appease those that like to look, some that the seller sent me, these will have to do for now, until after I get it home tomorrow! I won't get a chance to update the pictures until Wednesday, it will be dark by the time we get back with it.But I will give a report as to what I find, once I have it inspected.Thanks!Ken. Attached ImagesLast edited by Ken Dennis; 06-01-2009 at 09:29 AM.Reason: Opps!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Ken, maybe I'm seeing things wrong, but that looks like a one cyl block and a 2 cyl intake. Am I wrong? I've heard on some other forums Onan parts are getting hard to come by. Don't know if that's  true or not. Anyway, looks like you have your work cut out for you.   I have an old Miller bluestar 2E w/ one cyl Tecumseh that burns a little oil and sounds like it's getting a little loose inside. I think that's gonna be next winter's project.                                           MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Thanks Mike!The block is setting on its side, the other jug is directly under it, if you look at the bottom right of the block as it sits in the picture, that is where it would bolt to the bottom cassing!As I have stated, I haven't yet inspected anything, but just from the picture, that block looks to me like a B43E from the late 70's to the early 80's, it should be a basic block, like what JD used in the early 316's.Either or, I know a guy out east that has a ton of these engines used, 3 barns full, and there is a guy in Michigan that specializes in new parts and used generator and welder Onan engines so, as long as the welder/generator head works on this, I think I can get it going again!I plan on straightening the metal, sanding it down and making it pertty again.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:That was my first NEW welding machine I bought in 1984. I had to think alot about financing it. payments were 84 or 87 dollars a month for a yr. I liked the amp settings on the dial better than the later lincolns, Fuel tank was way to small. If it is a earlier version of the weldenpower, there is no oil filter on it, but it has a spot to drill and tap to install a filter setup.Lincoln Ranger 8                        Lincoln 175                          Drill pressLincoln 225 mig                            Plasma                              8 ft brake        52" jump shear
Reply:Well Ken, looks like you took on a bigger project than I did http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=30753 but it's not a lost cause if you ask me.  Very salvageable especially since you have a few sources for Onan parts and even complete engines if needed.  And if you didn't know it, onanparts.com (TJ) http://onanparts.com/ is a member here and could help you out as well.I rebuilt a number of those opposed 2-cylinder Onans that were in little communication cable burying machines some time back.  Pretty easy job as you well know.Nice find and keep us posted.Last edited by duaneb55; 06-01-2009 at 02:10 PM.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Looks like a pretty good unit...Hope all you have to deal with is the Onan motor.I've gat a couple of things with those onan engines so I'll be paying attention to the progress on this.One project I've got is a Hobart AC welder/generator and the motor is locked up from just setting(before I got it-LOL) in the barn and the other is a three wheeled scooter(remember the old Post Office delivery vans?) that burns oil pretty bad.I haven't messed with them because the rebuild kits are high from what I hear and other things are taking front and center expenditures first. If you don't mind sharing the cost factor on this project,I'd be interested..Thanks
Reply:Thanks for the tip there gclamp!If it doesn't have an oil filter, it will after I get done with it! I have never owned one of these little guy's, the smallest portable gas I have ever owned was a circa 1972 Hobart 350 with the Ford straight six motor.Hello duaneb55I saw yours! got jelous and had to out do ya on the poor shape!   Yup!Got his web site book marked already!This will be my third Onan rebuild, last one was on my JD 318 with its P218G "See pic below", well I don't know if I can justify calling that last one a rebuild, it was more of a freshening up!I cut my teeth on Briggs motors though, done my first one back when I was still more interested in bicycles and bubble gum than I was girls, I had several yards I mowed for summer  money with a push mower, when it caught fire one day, my dad told me if I was old enough to work for a living, I was old enough to get my hands greasy, had er rebuilt and back together before the next weekends mowing was due! Attached Images#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Sure will mudbugone!But most of the parts will probably be good used parts, sept the pistons and rings, I have a funny feeling that with all that rust in the bores, I might have to have them bored more than usual, that is if its even salvageable!But then again, it might just need a good honing, I will find out soon enough I guess.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:I got home a little over an hour ago with this welder "9:30pm", boy am I beat.11 1/2 hours and 379 miles later!We left about 10:00 this morning, drove down near Dayton Ohio to pick up the parts, 8 rockshafts I needed for making those 3 point hitches for JD garden tractors I build.had to kill an hour between those and meeting up with the guy that had this welder, checked it over and found it to be in even better condition than I was expecting! The main body, front panel and selectors where decent enough, those pictures don't really do it justice!The engine block looks really good, no rust inside like what it looks like in that picture above and totally rebuildable, the piston that went didn't even score the inside of the bore, and no marks inside the block, and from what I could tell, all the parts where present and accounted for "Sept that one piston and rod", even the valves and seats look really good, a good cleaning up should take care of those.I will mike it, but it looks like all it might need is a good honing!Get another piston and some new rings, seals and gaskets, turn the crank and I should be in business!It did have a working hour meter on it, it read 1183 hours.I left it in the back of my truck for tonight, I will unload it tomorrow and get some better pictures of it.Last edited by Ken Dennis; 06-02-2009 at 11:24 PM.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:That's great news Ken.  Should have it up and running in no time.  Will make a great addition to your 'fleet'.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Thanks duaneb55!Whew, a good nights sleep does wonders! Well, its raining out this morning, looks like I will be dodging rain drops while unloading this today.I am still going to give that guy up in Michigan a call this morning, and see if he has a good running used complete motor for this.If its reasonable enough, I will get one from him, put it on here and then rebuild this motor and set it on the shelf for a spare.It never hurts to have a spare ready to go!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:After looking closer, I see the other cyl. I've found that sometimes w/ basket cases some wrong parts get thrown in a basket. I think you'll come out good on this one whichever way ya go w/ it. I've used one of those before and it was a good little machine.   The 2E works great. I used it recently to build 200' of pipe fence for a friend w/ another 200' coming up. When I rebuild the engine I'm going to strip all the sheet metal, give it the "dupont overhaul" and replace the old badly faded faceplate w/ a new one.               Good luck on your project,                                                       MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Originally Posted by Ken DennisThanks for the tip there gclamp!!
Reply:mla2ofusYour right, it might be a 2 cylinder engine, but theres 4 mufflers in the basket! gclampThat plow was an old sleeve hitch type, made by Brinly that I restored and converted for use on a 3 point "See last pic, conversion part circled in yellow, I make those for selling"The plow you see there, that was my 8" plow, I now have a 10" and a big 12" that I have converted.On your 212, I believe it used a sleeve hitch, you can get a plow just like that one with a sleeve hitch connector end on it and a sleeve hitch for your tractor, they show up on ebay from time to time, or get the hitch made from someone else or from someone like me, I have original factory blue prints of the sleeve hitch for JD tractors from the earliest 1963 110, to the 1974 140 and the 200 and 300 closed frame series tractors, I make them here in my shop!I also built the complete 3 point hitch you see in the first picture and the A-frame myself, I make and sell those!I think if you have a 212 hydraulic model, there was an add on 3 point hitch setup that Deere made, I know they did for the 120, 140 and 300 series tractors.Heres a link to my craigslist add:  http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/grd/1185042475.htmlWorking on getting a web site! Attached ImagesLast edited by Ken Dennis; 06-03-2009 at 11:50 AM.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Those weldenpowers came with either a 2 cylinder onan or a single cylinder Kohler. I was refering to the onan when I mentioned the oil filter. That is what I had. I used a few of the ones with kohlers, but I remember thinking the onan was smootherLincoln Ranger 8                        Lincoln 175                          Drill pressLincoln 225 mig                            Plasma                              8 ft brake        52" jump shear
Reply:Yup!Onan is what this one has too.I much prefer an Onan over Kohler any day!I plan on replacing those 2 single mufflers with an exhaust manifold and a large single muffler from a John Deere 316, that should quiet it down a bit!I have it removed from my truck and on the ground now, I stopped to take a break, I need to get back out there now and get it up on some blocks, I can't fit it in my shop, there just isn't enough room, the motor though is going right in onto my work bench where I can start playing with it.Pictures in a bit!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:OK!This is what I have so far.First pics, unloading it.Got it set where it will live until I get the engine for it and make a wheel cart to roll it around on.A picture of the hour meter.Next page please! Attached Images#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:A few pics of the block.You can see the cylinder looks decent, and the valves need a good cleaning!The timing gears are in great shape, teeth are nice and squared at the ends, the crank is questionable, I will need to get it out of there and check it to see if it got bent, the one journal got beat up pretty good, not sure if I will be able to save it!  And then the remains of that piston and rod, it appears as though the wrist pin busted out and then broke the rod to bits. Attached Images#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Just got off the phone with an Onan tech.Seems this machine is newer than I had first expected, it didn't have a spec plate on the motor, so I called Cummins Onan, and gave them the serial on the side of the block, it came back that this is a P216G and was manufactured in Oct of 1992, and all parts are still available, they gave me a number to their distributor here up in Fort Wayne, called and talked to the tech there and he is sending me info for several piston/rod options by email and he is even going to email me a copy of a 62 page tech manual on it!Nice people those Onan tech's! #1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:KD,Looking at the pictures, I'd say the rod bearing was burning up, then the big end let loose, next time around the crank knocked the rod into next week. For sure, the crankshaft is hurting.Better inspect the block and cam very closely for damage or fractures before spending any money on it.Used to be that  an Omen engine could be rebuilt for not much more than it would cost to rebuild a car engine or two, or even a typical big truck diesel; but it's probably not that cheap to rebuild an Onan anymore.$200 for a tiny piston!  That definitely gave  ‘em a permanent spot on my  list of: Engine builders who can...    Sorry, I can't think of the complete name of the list right now, but they're still on it! Good LuckLast edited by denrep; 06-04-2009 at 10:56 AM.
Reply:Ken,I believe you were correct in your first impression that the Onan is a B43E and not a P216G as the Onan tech came up with. A number of things lead to a B43E besides the fact that is what your model Lincoln came with originally.Threaded exhaust port:Starter mounted to oil base:Flywheel shroud:Dipstick pressed into oil base etc.The governor cup has a date code that will be very close to when it was manufactured. The pic of the gear end is hard to tell but looks like May of 8?Also all P216G engines had the oil filter as standard and your block is not machined for the filter adapter.Before you do anything further check the rotor slip rings for continuity. Should be around 4-6 ohms.If good then you most likely have a Lincoln worth bringing back to life.On the crank undersize rods are available in .010" .020" & .030" so if it will clean up at one of those sizes you are good to go. Never buy undersized rods until after the machine shop has ground the crank!Check your email for the correct manuals in PDF.Miller LegendMiller XMT 200Miller HF 251DMiller Spoolmatic 30AMillerTrailBlazer 250GLincoln LN 25Lincoln G9 ProLincWelder 225Lincoln Ranger 9Lincoln Ranger 275TJhttp://onanparts.com
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepKD,$200 for a tiny piston!  That definitely gave  ‘em a permanent spot on my  list of: Engine builders who can...    Good Luck
Reply:Originally Posted by onanparts.comKen,I believe you were correct in your first impression that the Onan is a B43E and not a P216G as the Onan tech came up with. A number of things lead to a B43E besides the fact that is what your model Lincoln came with originally.Threaded exhaust port:Starter mounted to oil base:Flywheel shroud:Dipstick pressed into oil base etc.The governor cup has a date code that will be very close to when it was manufactured. The pic of the gear end is hard to tell but looks like May of 8?Also all P216G engines had the oil filter as standard and your block is not machined for the filter adapter.Before you do anything further check the rotor slip rings for continuity. Should be around 4-6 ohms.If good then you most likely have a Lincoln worth bringing back to life.On the crank undersize rods are available in .010" .020" & .030" so if it will clean up at one of those sizes you are good to go. Never buy undersized rods until after the machine shop has ground the crank!Check your email for the correct manuals in PDF.
Reply:Stuck the old ohm meter to the slip rings, it read between 4 and 5 ohms in between the two rings, is that good?#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Originally Posted by Ken DennisGot it set where it will live until I get the engine for it and. . .Originally Posted by Ken DennisStuck the old ohm meter to the slip rings, it read between 4 and 5 ohms in between the two rings, is that good?
Reply:Thanks duaneb55.I wish I could get rid of that grass, its in my driveway, and I have tried everything short of getting into trouble with EPA! Thanks for all your help onanparts.com.Especially the informative emails!I downloaded the owners manual for this welder from Lincoln.I discovered a few things I didn't know about it but had a clue to its use, like the CV tap on this, I can run a suitcase like the LN-7 or an LN-22, or add the HF kit "If I can find one" and I can run a TIG off of this COOL! I think once I get this thing going, I might have to work harder! #1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Ken Dennis - I think you'll really like the welder, they have nice welding charechteristics.Not sure why, but it seems like only the Onan powerd machines had a CV tap.Since you're an Onan man, this should be right up your alley. I'm anxious to see the rebuild.Good Luck Originally Posted by onanparts.comNew pistons are actually just a little over half that amount. At least if you go to the right place!
Reply:Originally Posted by Ken DennisI discovered a few things I didn't know about it but had a clue to its use, like the CV tap on this, I can run a suitcase like the LN-7 or an LN-22, or add the HF kit "If I can find one" and I can run a TIG off of this COOL!
Reply:Ah, gotcha!I thought you where just missing out on the grass down there in big Tex.I was going to say, you can have all of mine you want, its getting frustrating with all the rain we have had, the grass and weeds are getting out of hand, can't keep up with it and all these projects I have going at the same time!I am really anxious to get er going, can't wait to strike that first arc if all goes well that is!I may have to try something else besides buying all new parts. To replace everything with new, it would cost over $700.00! I am thinking of reusing the old oil pump, it looks in good shape, getting a matching set of good used pistons and just replacing the rings, valve seals  and gaskets, doing it this way would still cost around $200.00 or a little more.But I am still stuck with that crank, if only I could find a good crank to replace this one with.I might have to hold off on the rebuild and see if I can find one, but I have a feeling that it would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:I wonder if an Onan RV generator would work as a donor?The RV generators seem to be somewhat plentiful and cheap.Maybe Onanparts could clue us in on the Lincoln's crankshaft taper?Good Luck
Reply:I did find one crank doing a google search.The new number in the book calls for a number 104-1621and it was $502.00 OUCH!I may have found something on ebid, but the part number doesn't match the book, its part #170-2874 and said it came from a Miller welder with a P216G.All of the parts that I have looked up so far to fit this B43E, is the same from it to the P216G.I am going out in a little bit to see what the original part number is on my crank, it should start with that 170- number, as all these old numbers on the original parts have been superseded. denrep, that generator idea sounds interesting, I wonder if I can look up a parts list for one, we'll see!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:DARN!Missed it by 2 digits!Mine is a #170-2876 #1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:I've been checking out Ebay in a 1/2 hearted manner looking for a complete motor...I've seen quite a few listed in various conditions for $200 and up.The generator question is an  interesting angle...I have one from a motorhome(forgot I had it) I'd be interested if it could be adapted to the welder myself.... Might have the parts to fix my old Hobart and not even know I had it. The motorhome generators usually sell for $200 and up themselves.Your $700 price range is pretty close to what I found about rebuilding an Onan. I sure was hoping you had some sources for some discounts on parts..LOLI've heard of people adapting other engines to run these welders too when confronted with the rebuild prices on the Onans.
Reply:Sounds interesting mudbugone.Let me know what happens if you do decide on attempting to fit it to your welder!I think I found a matching set of pistons, they are from a B43G, and are a little beefier for some reason than the one I have.These are coming from a guy that belongs to the JD ckub I am a member of!He will be shipping them to me, and they should be here sometime next week, so I will need to get around to seeing if I can find another crankshaft and get the gasket set and rings ordered.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:OOPS!Forgot the pictures he sent me.These are from an early B43G, and will need to be cleaned up and a new set of rings! Attached Images#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:The first thing you want to check on those used pistons is the ring clearance in the top groove. Max is .008". More than that the odds of even a new ring breaking are very good.If you can wiggle the ring up and down in the groove with your thumb and "see" it wiggle it's beyond the .008" limit. Check with a feeler gauge in all cases.Onan cranks for Lincoln and Miller welders are different on all later models. The early cast iron CCK series engines had a standard PTO crank end that was used on Millers, Lincolns & the Onan gensets.B & P Series Onan's on Lincoln welders all have a long nose tapered crank. The millers had two sizes of short nose tapered cranks. Not interchangeable.The later gensets have a short nose tapered crank that is a smaller diameter than the Miller's.Many of the gensets share/shared many internal parts. Pistons, rods, bearings, oil pumps etc. There are many variations so you can't just use any genset for parts.Then there are the variations of piston and rod designs.........I can say that the BGD genset pistons are interchangeable with B & P series engines, 16-20HP. The BGD rods are the same as 18-20HP B & P series engines.Onan does not have any type of interchange so I am building one as I go along.Miller LegendMiller XMT 200Miller HF 251DMiller Spoolmatic 30AMillerTrailBlazer 250GLincoln LN 25Lincoln G9 ProLincWelder 225Lincoln Ranger 9Lincoln Ranger 275TJhttp://onanparts.com
Reply:Thanks TJ for your input on these issues. I glanced at your site and all that is listed under welders is Lincoln/Miller units... I have an older Hobart unit built before the merger of Miller/Hobart so I guess parts will fall back on the engine model numbers.Those of us with these engines ought to consult you about them since you are here and can answer the tough questions on them.I've got too much going on to get into rebuilding engines at the moment,but I'll try to ID the 3 I've got and look into what might be involved in getting them running again.
Reply:Right now all I care about is getting this welder going again, heck, even the block on this must have been changed at some point, cause the block number comes back as a P216 for some reason in Onans own files!Even if these pistons don't prove out, and the rods do, I can at least save some money by not needing to buy the rods!If it proves itself, I may in the future, re power it with a better motor, even if it means finding a new motor with an oversize crank end and have a machine shop turn the end to the correct taper, drill and thread it for the through bolt.One other option would be to use that crank from this motor, cut the tapered end off, and add a connector plate to its cut end, and connect that to a new motor that has a flush mount face for a union coupler like a Kohler or even a Briggs!But I hope that after I get it going, it will serve me long enough until I can get the cash to buy a new Ranger or what ever they have at that time!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Now I am in a pickle.I got the crankshaft out and could get a good look at it, and its got some deep gouges and groves in it, too deep even for turning.So now I am in need of a crankshaft too!Anyone out there have a good crankshaft for one of these?Or how about a whole engine off of a Lincoln welder?Last edited by Ken Dennis; 06-06-2009 at 07:41 AM.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Originally Posted by Ken Dennis...I got the crankshaft out and could get a good look at it, and its got some deep gouges and groves in it, too deep even for turning....
Reply:I was thinking along those lines too denrep.But in the service manual, it states that you shouldn't do that with this crank for some reason!I may give a few a call on Monday and see if there is anyone who can do it, heck, if they can turn it after it has been welded, I could build it up if they don't have welding capabilities.My problem would be in the building up, I don't have a positioner, and my welds wouldn't be consistent in that regards.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Out of curiosity I just called one of our local auto parts stores here that also has a machine shop out back,the service tech wasn't in today, but the guy at the counter said that they do turn small engine cranks, and might be able to work with me on this one, but I will have to take it over on Monday and talk to the tech about it!I have never used this shop for small engine work, and it has been years since way back in my wild and crazy youth, when I did a build up on a few engines for a street rod or two I played around with, that was the last time I had them do any work for me, and even then, it was a bore job on the engines, and some head work!Last edited by Ken Dennis; 06-06-2009 at 10:00 AM.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:I'll take a look around this weekend for a used Lincoln crank. I have some 18-20HP ones that can be ground no problem but not sure about any 16HP ones.Having a crank welded is not a problem as long as the shop doing it is experienced with crankshaft welding.Miller LegendMiller XMT 200Miller HF 251DMiller Spoolmatic 30AMillerTrailBlazer 250GLincoln LN 25Lincoln G9 ProLincWelder 225Lincoln Ranger 9Lincoln Ranger 275TJhttp://onanparts.com
Reply:Originally Posted by Ken Dennis. . . in the service manual, it states that you shouldn't do that with this crank for some reason!
Reply:Well thanks again onanparts.com!If you can find one laying around, you will be a life savor "That engines life that is" I agree Duane!No sense in throwing money around where it isn't going to do good, if I can get a good one!And since the wife informed me that money is getting tight, I need to cut the expenditures wherever I can!This is why I am hoping that the set of pistons that I wrangled up is going to work out.I just a few days ago got a message from the gent that has that house and property up north of me that I am going to buy from him, the one with the mini lake behind it, he and his wife want me and the misses to go up and talk to him about it, so it looks like we will need to get aggressive with the saving real soon, so we will be able to make the move.View Larger MapLast edited by Ken Dennis; 06-06-2009 at 01:59 PM.#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:onanparts.comI know that you know more about these engines than I do, but from what I gathered from the spec and service manual, it appears as though the crank is basically the same from the 16 to the 18 horse models, unless it has to do with the tapered end.If I am wrong, just slap me around a bit, cause I got a hard head! #1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Well!I managed to find the crankshaft new on another web site for $299.74, but they where out of stock!https://ems.qwik-orderdirect.com/cgi...0200):104-1621#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:Talked to the shop tech at Auto Tech, the local auto parts and machine shop this morning.He says, not a problem on this crank, there is just one ding that will leave a slight dimple, and according to him, it will not cause a problem!He charges $35.00 a journal, so it will be a lot cheaper than buying another crank.Woohoo!Gettin closer to that fire it up day!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply:onanparts.comIf your reading this, I will wait until after the tech finishes the crank up, should be done on Wednesday, and after that set of pistons arrive and I can inspect them, then I will be placing an order for that full gasket kit, a set of under size rods "Probably .030 under", maybe a set of pistons, depending on how these turn out, and a set of rings.I still need to pop those valves out and test those, from what I can tell so far, they seem to be alright, no excess movement and there was no indication of them leaking, they will get a set of new seals!Other than needing cleaned up and new seals, I hope they will be OK!#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
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