7018 vert up question

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My question is pretty simple. Does anyone weld pretty much just by pushing the bead straight up (like you would drag it flat). I have been practicing vert for about 3 weeks and I have found that I can pretty much run it in a straight line and just watch the puddle. Is the back and forth motion necessary ?HTP Invertig 201Lincoln Idealarc SP250Miller 180 AC StickBy farmall:They should have held the seagull closer to the work, squeezing evenly for best deposition.
Reply:The back and forth motion isn't necessaary, per se, but it is a good idea. The purpose behind it is to spread out the heat, redirect the arc away from the puddle to give it a chance to cool. When the arc is concentrated directly on the puddle the whole time, it only serves to compound the problem of overheating the work piece and having the bead rope up or fall away completely.
Reply:Ok cool. I mean what I have found is it doesn't take much movement , at least for me. When I first started I was trying to do all this movement and I have found that it doesn't take much... I'll try and post pics when I get a little better, I most likely won't even certify with stick anyways. I just want to get it down.. Should help me when I go to inner shield
Reply:When doing the root pass on a V-butt plate, or if I just want a small bead. I’ll use very little movement, pretty much just drag it uphill. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I like to wiggle mine side to side but I weld hot. I generally use a Z weave technique and pause on the edges when uphill welding with 7018.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:That's a nice look bead, you gotta admit.  Question, though: you said you just "drag" it uphill.  You mean you have the rod at an upward angle? Most people do 7018 vertical-up with the rod at a slight downward angle, so I wanted to be sure what I'm looking at here..-RuarkLincoln 3200HDHobart Stickmate LX235TWECO Fabricator 211i
Reply:You can drag it uphill in a fillet weld real nice, different story on a flat plate, also depending on rod size.
Reply:Originally Posted by RuarkMost people do 7018 vertical-up with the rod at a slight downward angle, so I wanted to be sure what I'm looking at here..
Reply:Originally Posted by Hillbilly WelderThe back and forth motion isn't necessaary, per se, but it is a good idea. The purpose behind it is to spread out the heat, redirect the arc away from the puddle to give it a chance to cool. When the arc is concentrated directly on the puddle the whole time, it only serves to compound the problem of overheating the work piece and having the bead rope up or fall away completely.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI would respectfully disagree with part of your description. Side to side movement reduces overall travel speed which increases heat into the work piece.
Reply:CEP, why do you keep abusing that piece of I-beam?
Reply:Originally Posted by old jupiterCEP, why do you keep abusing that piece of I-beam?
Reply:It's that darn buzz box that he just can't get rid off.