What wp20 torch is the best?

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I'm looking to get a wp20 torch 25 footer and want the best one. Also how good are the 360 flex lock torches?and how about the super flex lines?thanks
Reply:The rotating head torches don't have cooling in the actual head like the other 20 series torches, so they're duty cycle might be lower because if that.  You can't go wrong with super flex lines so long as you have a properly working cooler, but that goes for any water cooled torch setup.   CK, weldtec, weldcraft. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:No comment on the torches, except that I'm not a fan of rotating heads...They seem to overheat and die, Plus all the sealing etc. I personally have never needed one, I just use a stubby torch backer and get into some pretty tight spots.Get the super flex, they are great.Chay
Reply:HTP gets my vote.Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Super flex is flexible water lines right?
Reply:The super flex refers to the rubber-type used for the hose material.  This applies to all hoses, not just the water lines.  Even air-cooled hoses have super flex versions. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:The guy at one of my lws said ck,weldtec,weld craft are all the same is that true?he gave me a price of 121$ for a wp20 25 foot torch. But not super flex. Is super flex really that much better? I think he said the brand was tec craft for the 121$ one
Reply:Just give the folks at HTP a call and they will hook you up..800-872-9353very good people to deal with!TA 181ITA 186Torchmate 3  5x10Victor A120
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313The guy at one of my lws said ck,weldtec,weld craft are all the same is that true?he gave me a price of 121$ for a wp20 25 foot torch. But not super flex. Is super flex really that much better? I think he said the brand was tec craft for the 121$ one
Reply:Originally Posted by Gamblethey aren't all the same. Ck or nothing. I won't use anything other than superflex and once you get one you will understand why.
Reply:Go to the CK website so you can see the cutaway pictures for yourself. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:GET superflex hoses!The CK torch is kinda long, but it's very good.Last edited by MikeGyver; 02-16-2015 at 09:42 PM.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
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Reply:Originally Posted by OscarGo to the CK website so you can see the cutaway pictures for yourself.
Reply:Here you go moto,A plug and play torch.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-WP-20-Wat...item27dc4ab159Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313The guy at one of my lws said ck,weldtec,weld craft are all the same is that true?he gave me a price of 121$ for a wp20 25 foot torch. But not super flex. Is super flex really that much better? I think he said the brand was tec craft for the 121$ one
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Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopHere you go moto,A plug and play torch.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-WP-20-Wat...item27dc4ab159
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Reply:Well I take that back. I found a ck with super flex for 140$ but don't I need the spcial dense connector for my machine?
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313Well I take that back. I found a ck with super flex for 140$ but don't I need the spcial dense connector for my machine?
Reply:this is for my 17. This won't work tho will it? Not really sure how the whole thing works now?
Reply:The torches that HTP (USAWELD) sells are typically CK, I ordered a 17 series air cooled torch from them and first called their customer service to confirm before ordering if it was in fact a CK torch and was told it was, and when it arrived it has the CK17 name on the handle.Eliyah________________Hobart Handler 210Everlast PowerPro 205Miller ThunderboltVictor O/A
Reply:Moto,There is about a 1/8" hole in the tip of your dinse connector.Your gas flows thru that hole.Just buy this HTP torch and be done with it!!!!!!!http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-WP-20-Wat...item27dc4ab159There isn't a better deal around!Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:I know how the gas flows through but. I'm confused on how you get the water and gas to flow throughOriginally Posted by AKweldshopHere you go moto,A plug and play torch.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-WP-20-Wat...item27dc4ab159
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313I know how the gas flows through but. I'm confused on how you get the water and gas to flow through
Reply:Ok I hope it's a good one
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313I couldn't find the pictures of cutaway torches. Can you post them?they didn't have prices ether.
Reply:Just refer to post #8 in this thread....Problem solved.....your welcomeTA 181ITA 186Torchmate 3  5x10Victor A120
Reply:Get a profax, weldcraft and ck are overpriced crap. I will never go back. They can only be special ordered at air gas.Miller Maxstar 200 SDPiperliner #10 Gold
Reply:You are saying you can get a profax torch for cheaper than the ck one on ebay? I call bs. Nothing from airgas is cheap, or worth a damn. They all suck.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:I call bs on airgas not being cheap. I bought my welder from them at employey cost and that's what they were selling it to anyone for.Last edited by motolife313; 02-17-2015 at 10:26 PM.
Reply:I think its referring to some of the Radnor branded stuff they sell.A lot of it is cheaply made junk. And no, Airgas is never inexpensive Expert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:Originally Posted by smilexelectricGet a profax, weldcraft and ck are overpriced crap. I will never go back. They can only be special ordered at air gas.
Reply:Originally Posted by smilexelectricGet a profax, weldcraft and ck are overpriced crap. I will never go back. They can only be special ordered at air gas.
Reply:Never seen anything at airgas  that I can't get elsewhere cheaper & better. If they sell you things at employee cost, I assure you that is not the norm. Its your money, but you've been advised from many people that CK (and Weldtec/Tec Torch) are the way to go. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:Ok thanks everyone! I just called htp and its a ck torch and its the same one on the eBay pic there actually selling that one too. 165$ with everything shown in that pic AK posted. But I'm buying directly through htp so it's cheaper. Plus I'm buying a gas lense kit for a smokin deal aswell. 4 collet body's,4 collets and 4 cups for 20$. What a deal
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313Ok thanks everyone! I just called htp and its a ck torch and its the same one on the eBay pic there actually selling that one too. 165$ with everything shown in that pic AK posted. But I'm buying directly through htp so it's cheaper. Plus I'm buying a gas lense kit for a smokin deal aswell. 4 collet body's,4 collets and 4 cups for 20$. What a deal
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleYou are saying you can get a profax torch for cheaper than the ck one on ebay? I call bs. Nothing from airgas is cheap, or worth a damn. They all suck.
Reply:I don't need a gas valve, I don't wanna flex head either becuase I wanna learn to walk the cup. But I'm calling air gas right now just to see whats up. I dout a head cost 100$
Reply:I love my weldcraft CS310, has been flawless. CK torches are kinda long to me.Millermatic 211Miller Syncrowave 350lx with cooler and tigrunner Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 811955 National Cylinder Gas O/A setup with original patina
Reply:Originally Posted by smilexelectricYou should do some research you can buy a profax HD flex head gas valve for 27 bucks, full lead 100 bucks I had a weldcrap  and ck it crapped out in 3 months.  They are excellent torches. On top of that a weldcraft and CK torch head cost 100 dollars?!?!?! What a rip off. Lenco Makes profax.You should try something before shooting it down.http://www.profax-lenco.com/new/PxLnCat2014.htmlPeople like to spew off stupid crap because they hate the name Airgas. Truth is they rip people off sometimes, but if you find a good branch your in good shape. And since you say that stuff from airgas isnt worth a damn, they sell your weldcraft garbage, so that must mean it isnt worth a crap. Oh they sell miller and lincoln too? they arnt worth a damn either. Think before you post something. I have used many CK and many Weldcraft and also Masterweld. They are all of the same quality. But when I find a 17 series torch that can handle the beating I put them through they are good. And I will say that Profax makes an excellent torch, nor Have  I heard from them till my pipe welding buddy told me about them, I am sold. Cheap and really good.
Reply:Wp20 body is 36$ bucks just checked. Wp24 is 94$
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313I don't need a gas valve, I don't wanna flex head either becuase I wanna learn to walk the cup. But I'm calling air gas right now just to see whats up. I dout a head cost 100$
Reply:I figured the head would flop around?
Reply:Most flex heads take some force to bend and when you walk the cup you should not put force on the ceramic cup, just lightly rest it on the pipe. It is a common mistake everybody makes in the beginning when learning to walk the cup.
Reply:Originally Posted by motolife313Ok thanks everyone! I just called htp and its a ck torch and its the same one on the eBay pic there actually selling that one too. 165$ with everything shown in that pic AK posted. But I'm buying directly through htp so it's cheaper. Plus I'm buying a gas lense kit for a smokin deal aswell. 4 collet body's,4 collets and 4 cups for 20$. What a deal
Reply:Torch ordered. I got adatpers from 5/8 to 1/4 npt. So that's what im going to make my bungs to I think. I'm making them myself from AL round stock. Ill put them in the lathe
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleDoes your profax come with a dinse? Does it come with a superflex cable? Those are the two variables that I think you are forgetting. You can buy a ck head and rubber cable for less than $100 as well. Big deal. I have welded with a ck superflex 17 power cable rated at 150 amps, and asked at 220 amps for well over an hour on multiple things and never burnt up a torch head or power cable. They are all not the same. Go to airgas and grab yourself a radnor torch with superflex cables and use them. They are junk and overpriced. You couldn't pay me to use them. And the weldcraft stuff could be nice but it's 3 times the price of CK.