can i use air arc with a ranger 8

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i just got a k4000 air arc gave to me and was wondering if i could use it with my ranger 8 and if not wat size stick welder would i atleast need a portable or one for the shop and how much air preasure i would need for it.  thanks for the help
Reply:Arc gouging is hard on a machine, especially on a small machine. I would get a machine capable of 400 amps or more and keep your carbon size to no bigger the 1/4" rod. On the air compressor, size depends on how often your going to gouge, but for sure something with a 60 gal tank and 5 h.p..
Reply:Gouge away 3/16 & 1/4 carbons buy a small gouger a framing gun compressor will work and look for a old but good air tank for a reserve tank , the bigger the better , add a relief valve too 100 psi is good enough.
Reply:Just as Jay O said, gouging is very hard on a welding machine and especially so on a small one.  If you want to keep your Ranger as a good welder, then I would recommend against using it.  You need something with more testicular fortitude than what your Ranger has to stand up to the rigors that arc gouging demands.By Pavinsteelman;Gouge away 3/16 & 1/4 carbons buy a small gouger a framing gun compressor will work and look for a old but good air tank for a reserve tank , the bigger the better , add a relief valve too 100 psi is good enough.
Reply:An alternative is a gouging tip on a cutting torch.  My pipeliner/welding instructor bud won't gouge with any machine he owns, SA-200 collection included. I've not needed to try it myself (nothing big enough at the house to gouge), but he swears by it.
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Reply:....and I thought a gouge was a woodworking tool.
Reply:Bob more than a clue look at my posts in projects World Trade Center Hub , we weld and gouge more in one week than your local does in a month , we are the largest user of Lincoln Electric in NJ , and of Arc air too . Have 3 Arcair auto gougers Lincoln SA-800 power 5/8 carbons 900 amps . All welders have gouger experiance . Its not hard if rod fits the work and power supply. John
Reply:By Pavinsteelman;Gouge away 3/16 & 1/4 carbons buy a small gouger a framing gun compressor will work and look for a old but good air tank for a reserve tank , the bigger the better , add a relief valve too 100 psi is good enough.
Reply:Originally Posted by kyleb0789i just got a k4000 air arc gave to me and was wondering if i could use it with my ranger 8 and if not wat size stick welder would i atleast need a portable or one for the shop and how much air preasure i would need for it.  thanks for the help
Reply:I think i will just stick with not using it with the ranger 8 cause im just getting started and sure dont have the money to fix or buy another machine now. I really appreciate the help.  I think i have a gouging tip for my torch but not sure really. i didnt know they even made a tip for that, but the one i have is curved and the tip of it more oval with 2 flat sides. Is that what you are talking about or is that something else.Equipment:Lincoln Ranger 8Lincoln Power Mig 255Miller Diversion 165Hypertherm Powermax 45Victor Pro Series Torch setTons of other shop supplies
Reply:http://www.thermadyne.com/IM_Uploads...19_70-2510.pdfHopefully the link works.  I have never used a carbon arc, the gouging tips for a  torch work pretty good.  Watch so you don't kneel on a hot piece of slag if you're working down low cause it gets everywhere.
Reply:By kyleb0789i didnt know they even made a tip for that, but the one i have is curved and the tip of it more oval with 2 flat sides.