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Does anyone know where to buy premade tool boxes, I'm trying to build a utility bed for a truck.I thought maybe you'd be able to buy premade boxes of different sizes and shapes, but I'm having difficulty finding them. Something like the one in this picture If I could buy the boxes I could build my own bed for a lot cheaper than 20k
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Reply:You could if they gave them away but some of that is really slow going. I am for building and salvage, might find a used bed. That stuff takes for fricken ever to build. If a guy didnt have good paying job in the shop it gets better, if he is missing real work to do that its not so good.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I would think it would be easier to get some things like this and stack them up. Maybe a couple different styles and play Tetris. https://www.worktrucksusa.com/flat-bed-boxes/Airco Auto-Pak 130Forney 235AC/DC
Reply:Those are not unreasonable. If the body in the pic was 20K thats not really terrible either considering it could be put on a used non depreciating truck for the most part. There is 5 large in just box space each side before putting a wrench to it. You cant save ALL the cost, paint materials cost a grand anymore at best.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I like the ambu conversion, right cost, well paid for your time both current and multiplied going foreword.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:These people may be able to build what you want,https://www.rctoolbox.com/
Reply:You may find some of what you want at a wrecker supply, under bed boxes etc that might work for you.NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINELET'S GO BRANDON!"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Reply:Check out American truck box. Look up tank boxes.
Reply:YesIn Fresno California Sturty Products or Sturty Safe.Dave
Originally Posted by MetalMan23
Does anyone know where to buy premade tool boxes, I'm trying to build a utility bed for a truck.I thought maybe you'd be able to buy premade boxes of different sizes and shapes, but I'm having difficulty finding them. Something like the one in this picture If I could buy the boxes I could build my own bed for a lot cheaper than 20k
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Reply:Ok so the other question is this, if I can't really buy the boxes, which it seems that they're limited in sizes, what if I built the bed, then had a shop bend the doors, I guess I gotta think about cost vs time hereI'm planning on setting up a new service truckSent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Reply:You may want to look at the truck salvage yards for lower cost may need a little work. The boxes use some 18 wheels are very large boxes too. Dave
Originally Posted by MetalMan23
Ok so the other question is this, if I can't really buy the boxes, which it seems that they're limited in sizes, what if I built the bed, then had a shop bend the doors, I guess I gotta think about cost vs time hereI'm planning on setting up a new service truckSent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
Reply:I have a fire truck body, aluminum. I've kept it around with something like you are thinking in the back of my mind. $2000 it's yours. It had a 1000 gallon tank, no longer inside it, but you are welcome to it as well.An optimist is usually wrong, and when the unexpected happens is unprepared. A pessimist is usually right, when wrong, is delighted, and well prepared.
Reply:When I was going through the same issues many years ago, I tried looking for certain boxes myself. Couldnt 13 years ago, and you still cant find them. It's not that they are not made, it's just why make the refrigerator door, when you can just sell them a new refrigerator and make all the money and less stock.The only things really made are top/bottom side boxes.Cutting apart an old ambulance, fire truck, or nice service body is going to give you the best options. I know a guy locally who built his own truck. Came out beautiful, and did it 100%. But that was his last truck he ever used before he closed down (retired). You can do it, but remember the costs of doing that kind of work. When you get busier, I have learned it's way cheaper to just go with the flow and get what you need.If you want a really nice service or custom body for 20 years, look into CM bodies. I seen a body on another truck locally and when I'm ready for my body (been through 3 normal standard service bodies now on 3 trucks) I'm getting my own good quality body from CM. Good guys, good quality, good customization.
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Originally Posted by Willie B
I have a fire truck body, aluminum. I've kept it around with something like you are thinking in the back of my mind. $2000 it's yours. It had a 1000 gallon tank, no longer inside it, but you are welcome to it as well.
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Originally Posted by MetalMan23
Ok so the other question is this, if I can't really buy the boxes, which it seems that they're limited in sizes, what if I built the bed, then had a shop bend the doors, I guess I gotta think about cost vs time hereI'm planning on setting up a new service truckSent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by TJS
I am thinking making the boxes would be easy without a break. CNC plasma cut the boxes and make slices for the bends. Bend by hand and weld them up. The doors would be the trickey part as they are kind of a double wall but there are a few ways to skin a cat. I have to make some old doors from a utility body where I cannot get them. I have a drawing but I need to get around to it. Like we all have "get around to's"T.J.
Reply:That's a brilliant idea. It's pretty labor intensive, but you can make nearly any bend if your hydraulic press is big enough. Use hardwood as the cauls & clamp between. Hammer & block to bend.Doors pretty much want to be bent in one piece. A conventional brake will be hard pressed (no pun) to do all these close together bends. You'll still have to spend big money on specialized brakes, or resort in part to the hydraulic press used as a clamp.Boxes need as complicated forming, but it is practical to make a four piece face frame, weld the rest together. In this world, might be someone selling that. Might even be extruded.I've pondered it at length for my own needs, I dream of cabinets sized for my needs.An optimist is usually wrong, and when the unexpected happens is unprepared. A pessimist is usually right, when wrong, is delighted, and well prepared.
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Originally Posted by Willie B
That's a brilliant idea. It's pretty labor intensive, but you can make nearly any bend if your hydraulic press is big enough. Use hardwood as the cauls & clamp between. Hammer & block to bend.Doors pretty much want to be bent in one piece. A conventional brake will be hard pressed (no pun) to do all these close together bends. You'll still have to spend big money on specialized brakes, or resort in part to the hydraulic press used as a clamp.Boxes need as complicated forming, but it is practical to make a four piece face frame, weld the rest together. In this world, might be someone selling that. Might even be extruded.I've pondered it at length for my own needs, I dream of cabinets sized for my needs.
Reply:I would like to see these boxes buit, broke welded up. I can tell from here this is a guy never done it before.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:IC Welds truck video. Box detail starts about 17:25.
Reply:I was thinking the same way IC weld did it instead of a kind of double wall door like Reading or Knapahede (sp) does.www.tjsperformance.comDynasty 300 DXHTP 240HTP Microcut 380Hyperthem 85JD2 Hyd Bender and HF Hyd Ring Roller all in one =(Frankenbender)Bpt. Mill/DRO4' x 8' CNC Plasma TableInstagram: tjsperformanceYT: TJS Welding and Fabrication
Reply:So another issue it coming up, the dealer can't register a chassis cab without a body, so I'll have to get a dmv /dot inspection on the bedAnybody have any idea on what it is they're looking for?Anybody know what regulations I should look at?Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Reply:DOT in NJ is getting ridiculous about the rules. I'm sure they are just looking for specifics so they can be exact on paperwork. This way if you get inspected, your registered for a service body and getting a service body inspection. Not a cab n chassis inspection on a service body. Also making sure your paperwork is right for insurance companies. Registering a cab and chassis is not exact compared to a flat bed or dump body.
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Originally Posted by MetalMan23
So another issue it coming up, the dealer can't register a chassis cab without a body, so I'll have to get a dmv /dot inspection on the bedAnybody have any idea on what it is they're looking for?Anybody know what regulations I should look at?Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
Reply:Underide bumper, 80 inch lights, marker lights, reflector tape.www.urkafarms.comI had a "home made" boat trailer I had to get inspected in CT. I had to go to Hamden at the time. The inspector came out and had no idea what he even was looking at. He kicked the hitch and said. All set. I said to him, "what all set, you did not even check the lights, chains, tires or anything else but kick the hitch". He said yup you are good to go. Signed the reg and i was on my way. Phil, good luck with this. Sad, but it is all about checking the boxes and collecting the funds.T.J.www.tjsperformance.comDynasty 300 DXHTP 240HTP Microcut 380Hyperthem 85JD2 Hyd Bender and HF Hyd Ring Roller all in one =(Frankenbender)Bpt. Mill/DRO4' x 8' CNC Plasma TableInstagram: tjsperformanceYT: TJS Welding and Fabrication
Reply:I simply used underbody truck boxes mounted on the ends when I built my welding trailer. A local agricultural superstore (Agrisupply) had them in stock.
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Originally Posted by scsmith42
I simply used underbody truck boxes mounted on the ends when I built my welding trailer.
Reply:Here is a 48" box that they will ship.https://www.agrisupply.com/underbody-toolbox/p/10688/and a less expensive version:https://www.agrisupply.com/steel-und...gauge/p/68835/Miller Trailblazer Pro 350DMiller Suitcase MIGMiller Spectrum 2050Miller Syncrowave 250DXLincoln 210MP
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Originally Posted by scsmith42
I simply used underbody truck boxes mounted on the ends when I built my welding trailer. A local agricultural superstore (Agrisupply) had them in stock.
Reply:Looks greatDave
Originally Posted by scsmith42
I simply used underbody truck boxes mounted on the ends when I built my welding trailer. A local agricultural superstore (Agrisupply) had them in stock.
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Originally Posted by MetalMan23
I'm ditching the ambulance for a 450 size truck, either Ford or Ram, I'm looking for a crane / utility body, but I want to explore the options of building my own bed.
Reply:Truck is now too old,,, was too old when I built it,
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Originally Posted by MetalMan23
Not a bad ideaIf you haven't realized at this point I'm ditching the ambulance for a 450 size truck, either Ford or Ram, I'm looking for a crane / utility body, but I want to explore the options of building my own bed.The ambulance is a 1998, it's too unreliable, keeps breaking down and I need something that'll let me travel and work worry free. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
Reply:That's why I'm considering building my ownI could do a skirted flatbed with some boxes, and a crane mount I built this flatbed years ago
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Reply:I keep vascillating between building a bed and buying oneIt would be sweet to have a plug and play need with box lighting, probably gonna cost 20-25kBut when I see pictures of beds like this:
I could build that pretty easily, it's just a skirted flatbed with some boxesBut building, and then wiring, and then painting, that's a lot of work. I could work my normal jobs for 2 to 3 weeks and make almost as much as the bed would cost Sent from my SM-G973U using TapatalkLast edited by MetalMan23; 1 Week Ago at 12:07 PM.
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Reply:I like that setup, 3 years ago the local power company sold a Ford F550 at auction with a bed like that minus crane and crane pedestal. It had the extended cab with "Packrat" style drawers in place of the rear seat, really nice truck. I passed on it because it had the 6.0 Ford diesel engine and 80K miles. What a bone head, I ran into the buyer a month later, he had all the service info for that truck... at 20K miles the engine had been replaced by the dealer and because a government entity does not have to follow EPA regs, the dealer had bulletproofed and deleted the replacement engine. He got it for $13,500. It even had a hydraulic system to power a front and huge rear winch between the frame rails. I wanted to puke.
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Originally Posted by 12V71
I like that setup, 3 years ago the local power company sold a Ford F550 at auction with a bed like that minus crane and crane pedestal. It had the extended cab with "Packrat" style drawers in place of the rear seat, really nice truck. I passed on it because it had the 6.0 Ford diesel engine and 80K miles. What a bone head, I ran into the buyer a month later, he had all the service info for that truck... at 20K miles the engine had been replaced by the dealer and because a government entity does not have to follow EPA regs, the dealer had bulletproofed and deleted the replacement engine. He got it for $13,500. It even had a hydraulic system to power a front and huge rear winch between the frame rails. I wanted to puke.
Reply:You keep mentioning lighting, that's simple. Building an aluminum body is NOT simple.An optimist is usually wrong, and when the unexpected happens is unprepared. A pessimist is usually right, when wrong, is delighted, and well prepared.
Reply:The last aluminum bed I did sent the to press brake and formed. The rest was steel .It made simpler and I am not equipped for a lot of aluminum work.Dave
Originally Posted by Willie B
You keep mentioning lighting, that's simple. Building an aluminum body is NOT simple.
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Originally Posted by Willie B
You keep mentioning lighting, that's simple. Building an aluminum body is NOT simple.
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Originally Posted by 52 Ford
Ouch! I bet that DID hurt. Way I see it, if you have the extra cash, never pass up on a good deal. You can always resell for a profit if you don't need whatever it is. Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:When doing field work I keep the ood tools to minimize. Other why's you hauling the shop to job site. Two items I always want on job sites was drill press and lathe. I work a crescent or pipe wrench. But pain not have a drill press and lathe would just be nice.My father would carry to few tools.When about 14 or 15 I welded in field with cutting torch and coat hanger for rod. Drill press was hand drills. Try cutting 2x4's with a choice of grinder or cutting torch. Before I was 18 we had real tools on job sites and in few years we got gasoline arc welder and latters tooDave
Originally Posted by 52 Ford
I should add to my last comment about passing up good deal...If you have the extra cash AND THE ROOM TO STORE STUFF. I hide all my random junk being a building backed up to the woods. I got rid if most of it. Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:I agree, wiring simple compared to boxeswww.urkafarms.com
Reply:I wire semi trailers all the time, not complicated, just time consuming to do it right without corrosion or rubbing problems.
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Originally Posted by 12V71
I wire semi trailers all the time, not complicated, just time consuming to do it right without corrosion or rubbing problems.
Reply:Well it is hard to believe how fast the cost of everything adds up when you start building lights wire latches hinges boom wiring for boom paint weatherstripping that is before you buy any iron . I saved up a lot of material before I retired and every thing I building still end up buying a bunch of stuff and sure seems to add up fast
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Originally Posted by Leogl
Well it is hard to believe how fast the cost of everything adds up when you start building lights wire latches hinges boom wiring for boom paint weatherstripping that is before you buy any iron . I saved up a lot of material before I retired and every thing I building still end up buying a bunch of stuff and sure seems to add up fast
Reply:Then there's the cost of the latches, and hinges, and weather stripping, and painting it, and wiring itThe only way I think i would build a bed is if I have to order the truck and wait for 3 to 4 months, then I might just try to build the body while I'm waiting, I'll go to the dealer and get measurements of the chassis.. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Reply:Materials cost for the manufacture is probably pretty close to 50% of their sale price. That's how it is for a lot of things any way.Airco Auto-Pak 130Forney 235AC/DC |
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