Another Sears cable upgrade

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Ok guys... same issue as was just resolved for Eric H-L's older Sears welder... I want to add new plug-ins and cable ends to the old beast, but I want to use the same ends as I have for the old Miller Dialarc (70's vintage AC/DC machine) . The closest I see are the Lenco LC 10 MP connectors, but with a different taper. I take it the only source will be to order direct from Miller? They run from .330 to .355, but the taper length is 1.25 rather than the 1" the Lenco's use. If I want to add cable extensions, it seems the male/female connections from Miller are harder to find. It would be nice to have everything between the 2 machines interchangeable, but I'm sensing that might not be easy without upgrading the fittings on the Dialarc and it's cables to something else?The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:It is cheap to make on lathe.It is insulator hard find but making your own just size it for electrical pvcDave

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Ok guys... same issue as was just resolved for Eric H-L's older Sears welder... I want to add new plug-ins and cable ends to the old beast, but I want to use the same ends as I have for the old Miller Dialarc (70's vintage AC/DC machine) . The closest I see are the Lenco LC 10 MP connectors, but with a different taper. I take it the only source will be to order direct from Miller? They run from .330 to .355, but the taper length is 1.25 rather than the 1" the Lenco's use. If I want to add cable extensions, it seems the male/female connections from Miller are harder to find. It would be nice to have everything between the 2 machines interchangeable, but I'm sensing that might not be easy without upgrading the fittings on the Dialarc and it's cables to something else?
Reply:Not sure if this will work. https://www.amazon.ca/Forney-57904-S...03X5OCJE&psc=1Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:The insulator in 1/2" schedule 80 conduit and the end is taper tap 5/8 NF and the brass was threaded 5/8 nf.Dave

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Ok guys... same issue as was just resolved for Eric H-L's older Sears welder... I want to add new plug-ins and cable ends to the old beast, but I want to use the same ends as I have for the old Miller Dialarc (70's vintage AC/DC machine) . The closest I see are the Lenco LC 10 MP connectors, but with a different taper. I take it the only source will be to order direct from Miller? They run from .330 to .355, but the taper length is 1.25 rather than the 1" the Lenco's use. If I want to add cable extensions, it seems the male/female connections from Miller are harder to find. It would be nice to have everything between the 2 machines interchangeable, but I'm sensing that might not be easy without upgrading the fittings on the Dialarc and it's cables to something else?
Reply:This Canadian place says there are two similar ones that are available,, one of them must fit,,https://www.lencocanada.com/product-...-machine-plug/
Reply:Turning down a male end is easy... finding the female receptacle to put in the welder is another story...The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:The Forney ones are quite large, but could be turned down for the male end.... doesn't help at the female end.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by SweetMK

This Canadian place says there are two similar ones that are available,, one of them must fit,,https://www.lencocanada.com/product-...-machine-plug/
Reply:I think these are the right ones, but I'm not sure... anyone know the Miller part numbers for the female plugs in the welder? https://www.amazon.com/039800-Miller.../dp/B004QIVZ60The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Ouch.... $145 to do it with Miller parts vs. $35 to do it with Dinze.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:The Forney ones I linked “said” it fit Miller.

I am in need of 3 plugs for Forney so that I can sell my last two machines. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkLast edited by Lis2323; 3 Days Ago at 09:49 PM.:
Reply:Yall are really overcomplicating things. Just go to the hardware store and but some NEMA 1-15 extension cord ends and use those.

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

The Forney ones I linked “said” it fit Miller.

I am in need of 3 plugs for Forney so that I can sell my last two machines. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I looked at my Forney's ends first, because everybody "used to " stock those... waaaay bigger than Dialarc. Switching to those would be my least favorite option, because the receptacles were known to fail occasionally. I always kept a couple spares of the female ends in stock... never changed a male end. I did find some cheaper versions of the Lenco male end though.... females are more elusive.    https://canadaweldingsupply.ca/colle.../lenco-lc-10mp
Reply:Lincoln UP-10See if those are right.Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:https://canadaweldingsupply.com/prod...-10-connectorsSent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:Some info on this thread What kind of connectors are these? https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=appSent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
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Originally Posted by 52 Ford

Lincoln UP-10See if those are right.Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

If you go back to Sweet's first response, they clearly say it's the LC-10MP ends that fit, and the diameters match, just a little different on length. I can get the male ends for $20 each (might check out Welder's Supply tomorrow when I'm in Winnipeg), it's the female ends for either a cable, or machine mount that add up. Those ones I found for American Amazon come to $50 Cdn.  each but I can only get black.
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Originally Posted by 52 Ford

Yall are really overcomplicating things. Just go to the hardware store and but some NEMA 1-15 extension cord ends and use those.

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Reply:My current line of thought is to leave the machine outlets alone, and add in the Tweco connectors a few inches down the line. I managed to snag 40' of 1/0 today while it was on sale for half price, and I was going to pick up 7 Tweco's but they only had one in stock. Gives me enough to repair the one taped up lead anyway. Plan is to make up a couple short (15' ) leads that I can either interchange or add onto my 25's as need be. I also want to be able to interchange different grounds (magnetic, regular clamp, high clearance clamp) at the flick of a wrist. PA's price on the Tweco connectors was around $20 each so I might find some cheaper online.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

My current line of thought is to leave the machine outlets alone, and add in the Tweco connectors a few inches down the line. I managed to snag 40' of 1/0 today while it was on sale for half price, and I was going to pick up 7 Tweco's but they only had one in stock. Gives me enough to repair the one taped up lead anyway. Plan is to make up a couple short (15' ) leads that I can either interchange or add onto my 25's as need be. I also want to be able to interchange different grounds (magnetic, regular clamp, high clearance clamp) at the flick of a wrist. PA's price on the Tweco connectors was around $20 each so I might find some cheaper online.
Reply:Make your own I would copy Miller as simple to do on a lathe out of 5/8" brass bar stock and sch 80 pvc pipe.Dave

Originally Posted by whtbaron

My current line of thought is to leave the machine outlets alone, and add in the Tweco connectors a few inches down the line. I managed to snag 40' of 1/0 today while it was on sale for half price, and I was going to pick up 7 Tweco's but they only had one in stock. Gives me enough to repair the one taped up lead anyway. Plan is to make up a couple short (15' ) leads that I can either interchange or add onto my 25's as need be. I also want to be able to interchange different grounds (magnetic, regular clamp, high clearance clamp) at the flick of a wrist. PA's price on the Tweco connectors was around $20 each so I might find some cheaper online.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

Make your own I would copy Miller as simple to do on a lathe out of 5/8" brass bar stock and sch 80 pvc pipe.Dave
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I see they have Dinse panel plugs at PA.  Might consider going that route as their Dinse connectors are pretty cheap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[QUOTE=whtbaron;8867091]Where are you seeing panel plugs? That was the one thing I was looking for and didn't see... If I did switch to Dinse, I could use the Dinse 50 panel plugs  suggested in Eric H-L's thread.  They use a 1/2" terminal and would still fit my 1/0 cables.[/https://www.princessauto.com/en/weld...t/PA0008850596Oops. Just noted 5/16l terminal size so these are Dinse 35Last edited by Lis2323; 1 Day Ago at 11:07 AM.:
Reply:Herehttps://www.amazon.ca/RIVERWELD-Weld...379628967&th=1Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:I upgraded the Dinse 35 to 50 on my Thermal Arc 210 years ago so I could interchange with my Millers.  ( one 350xmt had Tweco panel plugs the other XMT , Dinse50.). Also had a handful of Tweco-Dinse adapters.

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Reply:If still had turret lathe I could make about 50 per hour. Now still had screw machine about 200 hour. I still have a engine lathe about 15 an hour. Dave

Originally Posted by whtbaron

No lathe... pretty sure a machine shop would want more than the Chinese knockoffs are worth.
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

Herehttps://www.amazon.ca/RIVERWELD-Weld...379628967&th=1Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

Where are you seeing panel plugs? That was the one thing I was looking for and didn't see... If I did switch to Dinse, I could use the Dinse 50 panel plugs  suggested in Eric H-L's thread.  They use a 1/2" terminal and would still fit my 1/0 cables.[/https://www.princessauto.com/en/weld...t/PA0008850596Oops. Just noted 5/16l terminal size so these are Dinse 35
Reply:you might wanna buy a dinse 35 panelplug and a male end in case you ever want to make your ground lead from your plasma cutter removable (if not already ) i ditched the wimpy leads on my wire feeders and miller 625 extreme and replaced with  6 gauge. way nicer to coil    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

you might wanna buy a dinse 35 panelplug and a male end in case you ever want to make your ground lead from your plasma cutter removable (if not already ) i ditched the wimpy leads on my wire feeders and miller 625 extreme and replaced with  6 gauge. way nicer to coil    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk