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This may have been answered before, but with a search here and on Google I couldn't find much.I just got a 30 gal compressor. Not big by shop standards but hopefully big enough for me (until I get a plasma cutter). It obviously takes a while for it to fill. I use it maybe once or twice a week, sometimes briefly other times longer.Is it best practices to run all the air out when I'm done using it? Or just the water from the drain port. One thought was that the compressed air inside continues to expel water even though you've drained the initial accumulation.
Reply:Have a drier on mine in the shop, setup some inline drier’s before your hose, and drain your water valve periodically. Should have no worriesRetired Old GuyHobart 210Lincoln AC/DC 225/125 Evolution 14 Saw
Reply:Condensation in air compressor tanks is a result of cooling following the heating of compression along with the water content in the air being compressed. The higher the humidity the more condensation can form.Personally, I don't drain my tanks to 0 PSI as that would require compressing more air every time it was needed introducing even more moisture. As such I leave my tanks at whatever pressure they are at following draining off any moisture accumulation.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110
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Reply:I leave air tank just in case I need a little air later.I due drain the water out.Dave
Originally Posted by JD1
This may have been answered before, but with a search here and on Google I couldn't find much.I just got a 30 gal compressor. Not big by shop standards but hopefully big enough for me (until I get a plasma cutter). It obviously takes a while for it to fill. I use it maybe once or twice a week, sometimes briefly other times longer.Is it best practices to run all the air out when I'm done using it? Or just the water from the drain port. One thought was that the compressed air inside continues to expel water even though you've drained the initial accumulation.
Reply:I don't drain my tanks to 0 PSI as that would require compressing more air every time it was needed introducing even more moisture. As such I leave my tanks at whatever pressure they are at following draining off any moisture accumulation
Reply:A couple other questions:1) The quick connect wasn't well thought out and is too close to the handle. Can someone tell me what right angle adapter I need so I can get the quick connect aiming out front?2) Any suggestions on a splitter that doesn't leak? My old compressor had 2 ports, this one only has one.
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Originally Posted by JD1
A couple other questions:1) The quick connect wasn't well thought out and is too close to the handle. Can someone tell me what right angle adapter I need so I can get the quick connect aiming out front?2) Any suggestions on a splitter that doesn't leak? My old compressor had 2 ports, this one only has one.
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Originally Posted by JD1
A couple other questions:1) The quick connect wasn't well thought out and is too close to the handle. Can someone tell me what right angle adapter I need so I can get the quick connect aiming out front?.
Reply:This is a 1/4" street elbow: https://www.amazon.com/Degree-Street.../dp/B07SNSSQMNThis is the type of tee that I would use: https://www.amazon.com/Brass-Fitting...dexMainSlot=30Here are some high quality quick couplers:https://www.amazon.com/Milton-S-765-...dexMainSlot=24The quick couplers I linked to work with a few different styles of male fittings including "industrial" fittings, which are the most common type you're going to run across.Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:Thank you all. That solution seems better than splitters that Harbor Freight or Amazon sell. They seem to leak sometimes and I get real annoyed when my compressor kicks on due to leaks.
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Originally Posted by JD1
Thank you all. That solution seems better than splitters that Harbor Freight or Amazon sell. They seem to leak sometimes and I get real annoyed when my compressor kicks on due to leaks.
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Reply:Air in the tank is not an issue. Moisture in the tank is. As already mentioned, hit air cooling inside the tank causes the moisture to condense and that will eventually rot out the tank. If you drain the water out, there is no reason to drain the air out.
Reply:If you teflon the fittings, they shouldn't leak. If an old coupler is leaking, it can usually be fixed with a new O ring. If a new coupler is leaking you are probably looking at cheap Chinese junk.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
If you teflon the fittings, they shouldn't leak. If an old coupler is leaking, it can usually be fixed with a new O ring. If a new coupler is leaking you are probably looking at cheap Chinese junk.
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Originally Posted by Country Metals
Air in the tank is not an issue. Moisture in the tank is. As already mentioned, hit air cooling inside the tank causes the moisture to condense and that will eventually rot out the tank. If you drain the water out, there is no reason to drain the air out.
Reply:I'm ordering some stuff for it from Amazon. One of the things is a drain extension. The drain actually sat on the floor until I put rubber pads under the back legs. They were missing. Front is on wheels. Used compressor but in good shape.
Reply:just use pvc or similar for the drain extension. not like it's under pressure or anything....
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Reply:Oops! What I MEANT was that I add the elbow and pipe to the tank, then the drain valve at the end of that.Frankly, reinforced PVC hose is probably more that sufficient in this application. I had an issue with a compressor the other day and used a braided PVC hose from the pump to the reciever tank and it's holding fine. Of course, it's getting replaced with the proper tubing when I get it. It's a small pump. One of those oiless units. Even running for 10 minutes continously, the hose is holding up fine.With my engine drive, I have a ball valve on the tank with a unique (in my shop) male quick coupler on it. I usually just open the valve and the tanks out straight off the ball valve, but if it's in the bed of my truck, I can hook a dedicated hose to it and direct all of the moisture and whatnot away from the truck, me, clients, etc.Also, what's that Ford sign say? Might just be 'cause I'm tired, but I can't figure it outSent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:Well, this thread inspired me to complete my compressor drain update.I bought a couple items several months ago,, I installed them, in 15 minutes today.My change was to replace the drain with a 1/4" street ell, then into a 48" hydraulic hose (I had that,, it has 1/4" fittings both ends).Then I added this cable operated drain.https://www.amazon.com/Control-Devic...d_bap_d_rp_1_tI decided to cut a little grass rather than try it,, maybe tomorrow.My hope is that the 48" hydraulic hose (2500 psi) will act as a reservoir trapping moisture waiting to be drained.As far as my compressor use, that 48" hose should hold quite a bit of moisture.If the hose seems to not hold enough water, I can adapt the fittings, and move up to a 1/2" diameter hose.Now, a slight tug on the cable, and the compressor moisture is drained!!
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Originally Posted by 52 Ford
Also, what's that Ford sign say? Might just be 'cause I'm tired, but I can't figure it outSent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
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Reply:Sweetmk, I kind of like the idea of a longer hose to hold more water. I'm a little confused by that valve. What threading does it have on the non cable end?
Reply:I got at it in a moment of inspiration and had to make 1 flare connection,,, ha, raided the copper tube pile and salvage every piece to tie each vessel to a common thru the wall tube. If I been running air a lot I drain it when I read about a auto malfunction. Drain before or after big jobs, I dont worry about it.
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Originally Posted by SweetMK
So, now I am wondering,, what is that live bottom truck loaded with?? That must be some lightweight product,, from the extreme volume,,The truck tires do not even show any squat,, Color dyed cotton balls?)I drain mine a few times a week. Of course the 1st drain after filling up then cooling will expel the most liquid water. But there will be a little more that settles over the next few days if not used. You'll never get rid of all the moisture though; a lot of it remains suspended in the compressed air and will not separate once the vapor pressure is at a max.I use the big Milton couplers 1/2" G style 1815s on my big boy 3M grinders, but I also use the Harbor Freight Merlin stuff on the smaller air tools. It's cheap enough that when they start to leak just throw them out and replace.
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Reply:How many spuds u grow?www.urkafarms.com
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Originally Posted by JD1
Sweetmk, I kind of like the idea of a longer hose to hold more water. I'm a little confused by that valve. What threading does it have on the non cable end?
Reply:I drain once a month. I use air every day, on 24/7 2 seconds to 20 minutes. I have a couple leaks I need to chase, my thing cycles about 3 or 4 times a day on its own. 3/8 hoses, old ones, 50 ft on reels and some 25 fixed whips. Mostly common length and situated and rigged so the ends hang straight and last forever, some fixed connections are common clamped. The only place for the user to hook on is provided coupling at the user end, never needs to move a section of hose from hydrant to hydrant. I do have some 1/2 hose and its what is on the reel on my big truck but I never use it, I hit something with the 3/4 gun the other day and it worked just fine. I used to worry about that shat before I even tried it and in all fairness to have any bottlenecks eliminated along the way.Last edited by Sberry; 1 Day Ago at 10:23 AM.www.urkafarms.com
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How many spuds u grow?
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Originally Posted by Sberry
How many spuds u grow?
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Originally Posted by 52 Ford
Well, according to Google, a medium sized russet tader comes in at half a pound. Soooo... I reckon Lis was hauling around 64,000 of them. But I dunno. Never been around a potato harvest. Probably a lot more small potatoes in there if I had to guess. Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
we were literally small potatoes. mixed row crop and under 100 acres spuds for fresh market. I was gonna pick up a russet for Sunday dinner. only needed one but couldn't bring myself to pay $1.99 a poundthe potato may have only cost me $1.50, but it was the principle of the thing. Never in my wildest dreams would i ever imagine getting $4000 a pallet for spuds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Reply:I leave the air in it all the time as well.I swapped out the drain valve with a couple galv. elbows, pipe nipples, and a ball valve.Water collects in the easily replaceable pipe, not the tank, and the drain valve is easier to reach.Attachment 1740287Attachment 1740286
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Reply:I've been meaning to install these on a few of my air compressors.Pull cord, so you can drain is sorta remotely. Like if you have an air tank on a truck that's hard to get to.For me, it'd just be nice not having to bend over. https://www.grainger.com/product/6D9...E&gclsrc=aw.dsSent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
Reply:I must admit. I still have to bend over, and while that continues to get more difficult, I can still manage.MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC, victor Oxy/Acet"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:I can bend over, but I choose not to. Ball valve at the tank gets shut off every time I leave the shop so it's all air up with no dangers of the compressor running if something fails. Ball valve up by the motor drains the cylinder that holds the water. Pressure stays up 24/7 but it get drains every time I start and every time I shut it down. I also used up some old hydraulic lines so there is no danger of those letting go any time soon., with an old hydraulic cylinder used as a remote storage for the water below tank level. Air pressure blows it up and through the valve. Like Oscar says, the only way to get perfectly dry air under hard useage is to use a drier, but for my purposes, I'm not getting any moisture a the other end. I also have water traps and filter/regulators at each drop in the shop.
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Reply:We were is spuds at one time too. Small, if finally had got down to 30A and a fire put it out. We used wagons with live bottom, but had a broker and ship a truck packed a day for couple months maybe. My Dad could find a lot of ways to drag that out and when it burned I said, no way, not replacing that stuff, I was tired of it and not so much the spuds themselves but the biz model I got dragged in to so to speak. We did local too and it was a continuous pain in the arse with no benefit.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I guess I missed it. How did an air compressor thread wind up in potatoes?
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I must admit. I still have to bend over, and while that continues to get more difficult, I can still manage.
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I guess I missed it. How did an air compressor thread wind up in potatoes?
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The old 3 HP portable has been here since 1985 (third pump) and also used the hydraulic hose to the filter. No auto drains on that one , just a petcock on the tank and one on the filter. Worked ok, but you got water at the tool under hard use or a humid day. Note how the tank is somewhat potato shaped...The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:They made a drain on older mechanic compressors with horizontal tanks that simply had a dip tube in it. They usually had a petcock. It was designed so it could tolerate freezing weather. You drained it when it thawed. New petcock in vertical tanks are the same way so to speak. All our stuff is in continuous heated buildings. I am with Wheat on the ball valve. I leave a few things on where the frequency is hi and some old circuits I simply have local service valve on the pipe to fil/reg. Its no real labor to simply shut them off. I was at my buds place, was in the garage, his widow asked me to check something. Air comp on, 175#, ball valve off, several years and never ran, was no leak. So,,, I got 2, a primary and a demand/backup. With 2 stage and 200+ gallons and stretching the recharge window I really got to work to run out of air with a tool. Big as air gun I use is 3/4 and while I do a tight bolt on occasion its not a bridge fab shop pounding rivets.Last edited by Sberry; 10 Hours Ago at 05:34 PM.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I have 3 drains on my truck compressor. With continuous use I am draining water once during the day and once when I get home. I can easily drain from a couple pints to a quart a day. =\But I leave the air in the tank and just remove the water. .Lincoln 330MPXLincoln Power Mig 256Lincoln LN-25X Wire FeederMagnum PRO 250LX GT Spool GunLincoln AC/DC 225¼ Ton of Torches OFC-A OFG-AAir Carbon Arc Gouging CAC-AEverlast 62i Plasma CutterIngersoll Rand T-30 14hpInstagram: #Freebird Welds
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I must admit. I still have to bend over, and while that continues to get more difficult, I can still manage.
Reply:I was bored so I took a couple pics. I put together the Milton Regulator with a auto drain and a manual drain. The tank drain can be seen with a quarter twist mounted on the bed. Before anyone panics I have an inline oiler on one of my whips.
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Reply:Sure the climate is a super factor and you have limited room for equipment. My shop is cool and dry. I have some turns in a 3/4 manifold but really most of my line is 1/2 steel. While bigger could be better I spose I have never ran out of air where the pipe was a limiting factor. Sandblast gets somer attention with regards to pipe size bhut really a 3/8 hose will drain a 5 hp comp in a hurry doing blast, not limited by hose but by pump.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:Yes, same on my truck, almost identical. I was trying to find close up, cant remember the name of it.
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Reply:Before the net had a problem finding hose reel to fit in the box then,,, duh, cut the outside down a couple inched and great. Got 3/4 hyd hose coming from the comp series thru 2 23 gallon tanks then to this steel 1/2 to the hose reel with 1/2. I aint doiung a bunch of delicate mechanic work and use all the same connectors anyway. I put the drops from one hose reel on those fingers on a 29$ HF reel came with 50 ft of hose and really made it in to a real tool. Some of that has had some renovation, twas a little bit of a process.
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