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发表于 2022-5-19 11:02:59 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Been arc/stick welding for years and while not a trained professional I regularly rely on it for repairing farm equip.  Borrowed my son in laws MIG for some fab work on lighter tubing.  I think I have a grasp on amp settings and wire speed but the problem I am having is this.  I cant see where I am going.   How can I maintain an appropriate stick out and accurately see my path with the nozzle blocking my view?  I am used to dragging / pulling my welds with stick but I keep wandering off my path as I can’t see past the nozzle with the mig.  Pushing is a little better but that nozzle is still blocking my view.  I watched some vids online and it appears guys are only watching the nozzle and not the wire contact point.  I keep wanting to see the arc but maybe that’s only a stick thing and not for mig?   All the intro mig stuff I read never addresses this issue and I am confused.  How do you position yourself ( gun position and body / head position ) in order to see your path and your puddle and stay on course?  Or are you only watching the nozzle and not the arc? Any advice would be much appreciated.thanks, martin
Reply:Practice or buy a longer Nozzle cup and drag the Nozzle cup.Dave

Originally Posted by Debmar

Been arc/stick welding for years and while not a trained professional I regularly rely on it for repairing farm equip.  Borrowed my son in laws MIG for some fab work on lighter tubing.  I think I have a grasp on amp settings and wire speed but the problem I am having is this.  I cant see where I am going.   How can I maintain an appropriate stick out and accurately see my path with the nozzle blocking my view?  I am used to dragging / pulling my welds with stick but I keep wandering off my path as I can’t see past the nozzle with the mig.  Pushing is a little better but that nozzle is still blocking my view.  I watched some vids online and it appears guys are only watching the nozzle and not the wire contact point.  I keep wanting to see the arc but maybe that’s only a stick thing and not for mig?   All the intro mig stuff I read never addresses this issue and I am confused.  How do you position yourself ( gun position and body / head position ) in order to see your path and your puddle and stay on course?  Or are you only watching the nozzle and not the arc? Any advice would be much appreciated.thanks, martin
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Originally Posted by Debmar

Been arc/stick welding for years and while not a trained professional I regularly rely on it for repairing farm equip.  Borrowed my son in laws MIG for some fab work on lighter tubing.  I think I have a grasp on amp settings and wire speed but the problem I am having is this.  I cant see where I am going.   How can I maintain an appropriate stick out and accurately see my path with the nozzle blocking my view?  I am used to dragging / pulling my welds with stick but I keep wandering off my path as I can’t see past the nozzle with the mig.  Pushing is a little better but that nozzle is still blocking my view.  I watched some vids online and it appears guys are only watching the nozzle and not the wire contact point.  I keep wanting to see the arc but maybe that’s only a stick thing and not for mig?   All the intro mig stuff I read never addresses this issue and I am confused.  How do you position yourself ( gun position and body / head position ) in order to see your path and your puddle and stay on course?  Or are you only watching the nozzle and not the arc? Any advice would be much appreciated.thanks, martin
Reply:Since I'm right handed, I lean my head to the left and stick my face in really close.I lean the gun back (away from me) enough that I can peek under the edge of the nozzle.If I'm running hard wire I push towards my face or move face and head at the same  time.For flux core I do the same but move away from my face so I'm dragging not pushing.MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC, victor Oxy/Acet"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:Don't know what helmet you are using but that can make a big difference also. I use an auto dark miller helmet and when mig welding I am able to turn the shade of it down some. Also as said by Frieed if you can hold your head low and close to where you are welding and off to the side of where you are welding it can help a lot.
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Originally Posted by gnewby

Don't know what helmet you are using but that can make a big difference also. I use an auto dark miller helmet and when mig welding I am able to turn the shade of it down some. Also as said by Frieed if you can hold your head low and close to where you are welding and off to the side of where you are welding it can help a lot.
Reply:Ok, i will try to get some practice time in and will use your suggestions.  Using solid wire / gas.  Thanks for for the help
Reply:Practice practice practice, then go for a tank refill and find out they haven’t received c25 tanks in a week…but can refill on Monday.   Then be thankful you can stick weld.I’d nozzle is blocking view them move it by perhaps moving further away from the work.  A fresh new lens helps.
Reply:Another thing that really helps me when mig welding is blocking out lighting coming in at the back side of my welding helmet. The reflection of the light coming in the back side of your welding lens can hamper your ability to see what you are welding. I use a piece of FR cloth attached to the back side of my helmet when I cannot keep lighting from coming in the back side of my helmet.
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Originally Posted by gnewby

Another thing that really helps me when mig welding is blocking out lighting coming in at the back side of my welding helmet. The reflection of the light coming in the back side of your welding lens can hamper your ability to see what you are welding. I use a piece of FR cloth attached to the back side of my helmet when I cannot keep lighting from coming in the back side of my helmet.
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Originally Posted by Debmar

Been arc/stick welding for years and while not a trained professional I regularly rely on it for repairing farm equip.  Borrowed my son in laws MIG for some fab work on lighter tubing.  I think I have a grasp on amp settings and wire speed but the problem I am having is this.  I cant see where I am going.   How can I maintain an appropriate stick out and accurately see my path with the nozzle blocking my view?  I am used to dragging / pulling my welds with stick but I keep wandering off my path as I can’t see past the nozzle with the mig.  Pushing is a little better but that nozzle is still blocking my view.  I watched some vids online and it appears guys are only watching the nozzle and not the wire contact point.  I keep wanting to see the arc but maybe that’s only a stick thing and not for mig?   All the intro mig stuff I read never addresses this issue and I am confused.  How do you position yourself ( gun position and body / head position ) in order to see your path and your puddle and stay on course?  Or are you only watching the nozzle and not the arc? Any advice would be much appreciated.thanks, martin
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