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I’m not sure if I’m asking in the right place here. Most of the metals I weld are higher tensile metals and tool steels. I’ve got by with using temperature probes on multimeters and stuff like that but I’m trying to buy up equipment for myself as I prepare to perhaps go solo. I’m after a unit that I can monitor temperatures with by attaching probes to what I’m working on and monitor pre heat temp, weld temp and post heat temp. Something that can handle high temperatures and if it can data log and allow print outs that is even better. I’m either not looking in the right place or this stuff is rare as I’m having a hard time seeing what’s out there outside of hand held meters made by companies like fluke.Gear: Esab power compact 205 with tbi industries torch         BOC Smootharc 185dc tig         Miller Syncrowave 350LX
Reply:What is the temperature range are you looking for?Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

I’m not sure if I’m asking in the right place here. Most of the metals I weld are higher tensile metals and tool steels. I’ve got by with using temperature probes on multimeters and stuff like that but I’m trying to buy up equipment for myself as I prepare to perhaps go solo. I’m after a unit that I can monitor temperatures with by attaching probes to what I’m working on and monitor pre heat temp, weld temp and post heat temp. Something that can handle high temperatures and if it can data log and allow print outs that is even better. I’m either not looking in the right place or this stuff is rare as I’m having a hard time seeing what’s out there outside of hand held meters made by companies like fluke.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

What is the temperature range are you looking for?Dave
Reply:I have used temp sticks/marker in past. But thermometer are on Amazon they used in other industries. I have a foundry one it goes from 250° to 2,350°F Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

Off the top of my head I’ve dealt with some metals that have required pre heat temps of 400°C (750°F)
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

I have used temp sticks/marker in past. But thermometer are on Amazon they used in other industries. I have a foundry one it goes from 250° to 2,350°F Dave
Reply:You want to search for "thermocouple thermometers".
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Originally Posted by William Payne

I’m not sure if I’m asking in the right place here. Most of the metals I weld are higher tensile metals and tool steels. I’ve got by with using temperature probes on multimeters and stuff like that but I’m trying to buy up equipment for myself as I prepare to perhaps go solo. I’m after a unit that I can monitor temperatures with by attaching probes to what I’m working on and monitor pre heat temp, weld temp and post heat temp. Something that can handle high temperatures and if it can data log and allow print outs that is even better. I’m either not looking in the right place or this stuff is rare as I’m having a hard time seeing what’s out there outside of hand held meters made by companies like fluke.
Reply:Thanks for the reply guys. Cheap on eBay or Amazon is what I’m trying to avoid like the plague I am hoping someone will see my post and be able to educate me on what is used professionally and what ones may be the industry standards. Thanks for the links I’ll have a look. The problem I was having was that I know there are professionals out there doing this stuff but google does not bring up much as far as industrial grade equipment. Will do more research.Gear: Esab power compact 205 with tbi industries torch         BOC Smootharc 185dc tig         Miller Syncrowave 350LX
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Originally Posted by William Payne

Thanks for the reply guys. Cheap on eBay or Amazon is what I’m trying to avoid like the plague I am hoping someone will see my post and be able to educate me on what is used professionally and what ones may be the industry standards. Thanks for the links I’ll have a look. The problem I was having was that I know there are professionals out there doing this stuff but google does not bring up much as far as industrial grade equipment. Will do more research.
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Originally Posted by Weld_

You want to search for "thermocouple thermometers".
Reply:I haven't used them in a long time , but there was a company called Omega something that dealt in thermal stuff. Its even harder to find thermal logging devices, by now some pc based ones should be available. My fluke 123 scope can remember wave forms in volts, and amps. Never noticed one for a thermal couple. I also just bought a Pico scope to hook up to my computer, haven't read the whole manual yet. If I see some thing , I will let you know.Try Here @ Omega Engingeering  :  https://www.omega.com/en-us/temperat...EaAoWxEALw_wcB

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Originally Posted by William Payne

My apologies, I missed your post between others. Ill check that out.
Reply:https://www.millerwelds.com/-/media/...ing/in15-0.pdfThe Miller Pro-heat induction system has that built into it, it is nice as you tack weld the thermal couples to the plate then the system reads out temperatures along with shutting the induction cycle off when the set temperature is reached. I think the data logger systems are along the same thing but a separate system.  https://www.dataloggerinc.com/data-a...yAAEgKeCvD_BwE
Reply:buy up equipment for myself as I prepare to perhaps go solo.I’m after a unit that I can monitor temperatures with by attaching probes to what I’m working on and monitor pre heat temp, weld temp and post heat temp. Something that can handle high temperatures and if it can data log and allow print outs that is even better.
Reply:I have use metals for temperatures to like lead 621 °F (327 °C, ​). It is simple way but remember some types welding like food product you can not use lead but are other types of solder that does melte at temperature. All you need is pipe cap with metal in side and just reused Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

I’m not sure if I’m asking in the right place here. Most of the metals I weld are higher tensile metals and tool steels. I’ve got by with using temperature probes on multimeters and stuff like that but I’m trying to buy up equipment for myself as I prepare to perhaps go solo. I’m after a unit that I can monitor temperatures with by attaching probes to what I’m working on and monitor pre heat temp, weld temp and post heat temp. Something that can handle high temperatures and if it can data log and allow print outs that is even better. I’m either not looking in the right place or this stuff is rare as I’m having a hard time seeing what’s out there outside of hand held meters made by companies like fluke.
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Originally Posted by Sberry

Is this go solo effort a specialty gig?
Reply:Might be worth it to build your own out of some simple PLC components. All you would need is a processor, an analog card, and a HMI. Depending on how you are doing it you could even set it up to control your preheating process or give you an audible alarm when it gets close to the limit.Airco Auto-Pak 130Forney 235AC/DC
Reply:Or something like this.https://www.dataq.com/products/graphtec/gl240/I've not any experience with it, but it looks like a compact standalone unit for datalogging analog references. Just have to find a probe that works well for your temperature range and wire it in.You would have to do some testing to see what the reference voltage from the probe reads at different temps, but after that you would be good to go.Airco Auto-Pak 130Forney 235AC/DC
Reply:What about a thermal imaging camera ?MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC, victor Oxy/Acet"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:I was thinking it some place like Alaska. In California for most part it was above the outside temperature was above the temperature needing per heat. It was mainly repair work where per heat was needed metal. But tool and die can be a pain plus . It only metal I use TIG with lots of per heat too. Tool and die steel will crack just heat treatment too. Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

Yes. I work in the mould tool and die industry.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

I was thinking it some place like Alaska. In California for most part it was above the outside temperature was above the temperature needing per heat. It was mainly repair work where per heat was needed metal. But tool and die can be a pain plus . It only metal I use TIG with lots of per heat too. Tool and die steel will crack just heat treatment too. Dave
Reply:I agree 👍 Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

It’s fun stuff but you can’t take short cuts, there are lots of tricks but the result has to be done right.
Reply:I really appreciate the input everyone huge thanks. I’m going to explain myself a little bit. I work in the mould tool and die industry. The company I work for currently manufactures custom made injection moulds and custom machines for all kinds of industries from genetic manufacturing to medical products. Via working at this company I fell into the roll of the welding guy, I enjoyed it and was handed a TIG torch the day I started with no previous experience many years ago. It was the only thing I was ever naturally good at. I have been over the years buying up my own stuff so as to have the welder work as my own business whether it be part time or full time. I have done jobs in the past where the material and the job had to be signed off and a paper trail to go with it, material certs and everything. I have welded things where the material alone cost more than my welder did. I love the specialty welding that I do and that for me is my thing. I like the jobs that require weld procedures and specialised processes.The reason I want this kind of equipment is because I want to record what I do so customers can have a paper trail and I can have a record of how a repair was done. The customers I’ve dealt with were companies not people. Companies who have many digits invested in what they want repaired.Gear: Esab power compact 205 with tbi industries torch         BOC Smootharc 185dc tig         Miller Syncrowave 350LX
Reply:I can see that part.A corporation you just a number that can be replaced the next day.I spent most life self employed. Good luckDave

Originally Posted by William Payne

I really appreciate the input everyone huge thanks. I’m going to explain myself a little bit. I work in the mould tool and die industry. The company I work for currently manufactures custom made injection moulds and custom machines for all kinds of industries from genetic manufacturing to medical products. Via working at this company I fell into the roll of the welding guy, I enjoyed it and was handed a TIG torch the day I started with no previous experience many years ago. It was the only thing I was ever naturally good at. I have been over the years buying up my own stuff so as to have the welder work as my own business whether it be part time or full time. I have done jobs in the past where the material and the job had to be signed off and a paper trail to go with it, material certs and everything. I have welded things where the material alone cost more than my welder did. I love the specialty welding that I do and that for me is my thing. I like the jobs that require weld procedures and specialised processes.The reason I want this kind of equipment is because I want to record what I do so customers can have a paper trail and I can have a record of how a repair was done. The customers I’ve dealt with were companies not people. Companies who have many digits invested in what they want repaired.