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My CP749 quit hitting the other day and i havnt taken it apart. I was trying to get the help to do it but they about as excited as I am.  I might get to it, have found the drawing so far but was gonna hit the buy button on a new one.  I borrowed my neighbors its the mid HF one, cost 130-170 as i recall, its kind of IR clone but i am really fond of the transmission on the CP.  The HF really hits and be great for tires but bolt service i like the cp.  However when i look its rated 610 or something, i see other guns rated mo poop.  CP make a heavier one?www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I believe the Napa " professional" or Carlyle are very similar to the CP. I haven't used napa's 1/2" drive but the 3/4" drive is truly a beast.
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Originally Posted by Sberry

My CP749 quit hitting the other day and i havnt taken it apart. I was trying to get the help to do it but they about as excited as I am.  I might get to it, have found the drawing so far but was gonna hit the buy button on a new one.  I borrowed my neighbors its the mid HF one, cost 130-170 as i recall, its kind of IR clone but i am really fond of the transmission on the CP.  The HF really hits and be great for tires but bolt service i like the cp.  However when i look its rated 610 or something, i see other guns rated mo poop.  CP make a heavier one?
Reply:I have the Earthquake stubby rated for 700 ft lbs. I love it. It works great on nuts for me, especially the ones on my mower deck that my Craftsman couldn't move
Reply:when turning wrenches for years the snap-on was powerful but of the 15 mechanics in shop, 12 had the ingrasol rand.  i think 731 model and rest had the snap-on.  snap on tool dealer even sold then IR.lincoln 125spdayton 250 ac/dcmiller 211 w/spool gunahp  200 sx tiglotos ltp5000dkubota b3200 FEL BHof course duramax diesel
Reply:I have an older M18 Milwaukee (maybe 5 years old),, my SIL needed to borrow it when changing blades on the 72" RFM,,Mine is sorta safe for a novice to use.. Well, in 2021, he bought the current M18 Milwaukee Fuel,,The first bolt he tightened was a Grade 5, 1/2" bolt,, without even a warning, that impact snapped the 1/2" bolt.If you need more torque than the Milwaukee,, you really need a 3/4" impact,
Reply:I see the IR that cost 125 more rated a lot higher. I have an older one i really dont like due to the fact its too hot, wants to zip like nascar.  The 749 is super smooth. I like the 4 speed 4ward.  It is smooth and feathers a little in R.  I would certainly pay a bump ifcit had a bit more power.Last edited by Sberry; 12 Hours Ago at 03:15 PM.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I like the same dimentions or more compact.  I can do and fit the stuff to uze straight drives, not many wobbles or u joint etc.   I have 2 battery but they are obsolete but i need a new air one too.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:It would also be a different matter if we were not already custom plumbed.www.urkafarms.com
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Originally Posted by Sberry

It would also be a different matter if we were not already custom plumbed.
Reply:I have that big boy Milwaukee 1/2" impact. Advertises 1500 ft/lbs in reverse. A lot heavier then an air impact, plus that battery gets in the way when working on your back under a car. With all the nice cordless electric tools out their I don't really bother with air anymore. Air is better for some things for use, especially extended use, but my shop is not set up for a lot of air use at the moment.Airco Auto-Pak 130Forney 235AC/DC
Reply:I have steel pipe.  If i was gonna do it again would hybrid a gouple of runs for ease of installation.  I have an IR 3/4.  I should have bought qnother CP right after i bought mine and would now have 2 guns 1/2 worn out instead of 1 all wore out and would have saved me some walking. I always said would replace it if it died tomorrow and while there might be a better gun the price is right and i been using it so long that i might never get instinctive with anything else.Last edited by Sberry; 9 Hours Ago at 06:41 PM.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:This is smooth and predictable.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:William, i totally understand battery but i been using this exact same tool for a long time.  Its smooth enuf to watch the speed of the socket rotation and kind of find farmer tight. I try to turn down to one and only lightly hit a second pass on wheels especially alum.  Imact its easy to overtight, alum creeps, my old battery hits like that and cant feel them up. We check ourselves on occasion.  If i want someone to be able to field service common attatchments i have the girl helper hand wrench it tight.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I did 20 lug nuts the other day. 2 were off 10%  1 hi and one low and 18 a pretty even mix at 5%.Thats probably better than typical and on a car or truck i do with consistant csre penetrating spray during assembly.  Keeps them from getting stuck.I have 3 fixed whips and 4 reels not incl one for paint gun with 3rd stage fil/reg. Makes for no moving parts to a couple i use a lot.  This is not a hydrant system where section of hose is moved from outlet to outlet.  The connector is at the tool, all the rest plumbed and most of the place able to overlap or come from a particular directoon.  We did get in a hurry a while back and have a trip/fall where someone walk behind someone with a hose.  Normally not much on the floor and almost as easy to hang back as drop on floor, reel back also. There is a place for retractors, some locations just as soon use manual.

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Reply:IMHO,, forget penetrating oil,, get this,,Did I mention that I hate air hoses??

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Reply:I have another unique drop kind of hard to splain and show with boom over bench and simple hanger is super good.  Only wear is on a common hose and no one walks on them, drives over etc and they last a long time.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I never thought I'd give up my old 1/2" Blue Point either, but since I got the 20v brushless DeWalt (max's around 600 to 700 ft. lbs) I rarely pick it up. Not quite the torque of the big Milwaukee, but a lot handier to work with and I very seldom need more than 600 ft. lbs. It will break bolts if you aren't careful, but this one seems easy to feather. I've got an old 18v DeWalt 1/2" that was given to me, but the response isn't as nice as the brushless one. Even with the 20v battery converter, I like the little brushless version a lot better, it pretty much goes anywhere the Blue Point would. It was more money up front, but totally worth it.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I never thought I'd give up my old 1/2" Blue Point either, but since I got the 20v brushless DeWalt (max's around 600 to 700 ft. lbs) I rarely pick it up. Not quite the torque of the big Milwaukee, but a lot handier to work with and I very seldom need more than 600 ft. lbs. It will break bolts if you aren't careful, but this one seems easy to feather. I've got an old 18v DeWalt 1/2" that was given to me, but the response isn't as nice as the brushless one. Even with the 20v battery converter, I like the little brushless version a lot better, it pretty much goes anywhere the Blue Point would. It was more money up front, but totally worth it.
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I never thought I'd give up my old 1/2" Blue Point either, but since I got the 20v brushless DeWalt (max's around 600 to 700 ft. lbs) I rarely pick it up. Not quite the torque of the big Milwaukee, but a lot handier to work with and I very seldom need more than 600 ft. lbs. It will break bolts if you aren't careful, but this one seems easy to feather. I've got an old 18v DeWalt 1/2" that was given to me, but the response isn't as nice as the brushless one. Even with the 20v battery converter, I like the little brushless version a lot better, it pretty much goes anywhere the Blue Point would. It was more money up front, but totally worth it.
Reply:I used to use my 3/4" drive Blue Point and 1/2" IR.   I never used the 1/2 IR once I got my Snap-on 3/8".  More torque, half the weight and 1/2 the size.


All the big equipment is gone now and these days 95% of my work is done with a cordless 1/4" impact.lol

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Originally Posted by SweetMK

IMHO,, forget penetrating oil,, get this,,Did I mention that I hate air hoses??

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Originally Posted by SweetMK

IMHO,, forget penetrating oil,, get this,,Did I mention that I hate air hoses??

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Reply:I have a couple retracting hose reels but don't particularly like them. Like Sberry I prefer manual or just grab a hose when needed.  Lots of well placed outlets help

Or string your lines overhead...

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I used to use my 3/4" drive Blue Point and 1/2" IR.   I never used the 1/2 IR once I got my Snap-on 3/8".  More torque, half the weight and 1/2 the size.


All the big equipment is gone now and these days 95% of my work is done with a cordless 1/4" impact.lol

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I used to use my 3/4" drive Blue Point and 1/2" IR.   I never used the 1/2 IR once I got my Snap-on 3/8".  More torque, half the weight and 1/2 the size.


All the big equipment is gone now and these days 95% of my work is done with a cordless 1/4" impact.lol

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Reply:When cordless tools first came out who would have thought the selection would extend way past drills. I chose Makita way back then. Great product line but I think I would have preferred Milwaukee. Too late now as I'm married to them.  To the newcomers to the cordless game--- I would say "choose your platform wisely"

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Originally Posted by 12V71

I've had one of those Blue Point AT-750 3/4" guns for close to 30 years, it has always met the 450 Lb. Ft. minimum for big truck wheel nuts, both regular Budds and Pilot wheels. And I do check them with a torque wrench, nobody is losing a wheel after I put them on.
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I'm pretty certain I've had mine almost that long also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by 12V71

I like mine because it will do it's thing on a 3/8" hose. My I-R 261 has to have the 1/2" minimum hose.
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

  To the newcomers to the cordless game--- I would say "choose your platform wisely" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

When cordless tools first came out who would have thought the selection would extend way past drills. I chose Makita way back then. Great product line but I think I would have preferred Milwaukee. Too late now as I'm married to them.  To the newcomers to the cordless game--- I would say "choose your platform wisely"

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Reply:I have the Napa pro power/ carlyse in 3/8,1/2 and 3/4 and really like them. The 1/2” does lug nuts on pickups and skidsteers with ease unless someone got carried away installing them. I do also have the high torque 1/2” Milwaukee and it will do pretty much everything the air does if not moreMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer