Speed Of Light

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You guys may know that I sport some pretty contradictory views compared to “modern” science but the truth is that it is pretty easy to prove how poor modern science is with some pretty common sense stuff. We all watched them create a beam of light from the moon and it took 1.26 seconds. But myself and others believe that once established communication is instantaneous over that beam. Modern science says nay. If you take a look at this picture I drew you might be able to see why light has to be an instantaneous communication because if it was not you would not be able to look at the reality of what is there, even over short distances images would become skewed. But you can see clearly here that there is no way you could see a galaxy as it is if light was only communicating at 186,000 miles a second.

Also consider a far off image taking hours to get to you, during that time that image would have to pass through other areas other objects other lighting effects and each would have to be super imposed over the original, it would be like not advancing the film in an old film camera and opening the aperture again and again. It could never work. Sincerely, William McCormickIf I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
Reply:But myself and others believe that once established communication is instantaneous over that beam
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Originally Posted by mrmikey

I understand your theory but respectfully disagree.I would equate communication over light to analogous to someone spraying water out of a 50' garden hose, yes it's (water compared to light in this example) continuous but if you put dye in the input end of the hose it doesn't come out right away. I know, different properties but it's the first example I could think of LOL........Mike
Reply:Very interesting!I've never considered this nor do I recall anyone bringing up this argument. It is my understanding that an arc takes much more energy to start (spark) than to sustain, perhaps light behaves in a similar manner.If it is instantaneous after establishment I wonder if it would be akin to quantum entanglement.   I wonder what many of our pictures of galaxies, constellations, etc would look like if positions were corrected for whatever light travel time delay truly exists.  Our understanding of galaxy and celestial body shapes could be completely wrong, and based on this delay.  Perhaps the spiraling shapes we "see" are actually just different waves of resistance the light must travel through before reaching the point of observance.
Reply:But myself and others believe that once established communication is instantaneous over that beam.
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Originally Posted by mrmikey

How the hell did we ever get on this subject in a welding forum :-) .........Mike
Reply:The same way some members here who are not doctors distribute medical "information"......
Reply:All I know is, Light is really really fast.  Almost as fast as the speed of light.  How does motion occur if communication is instantaneous?  If you slice up the beam would there have to be chance occuring per slice?  Like stop motion? Otherwise, it would seem static, like a single chord played continuously?
Reply:This is way above my paygrade so I'll sit back and eat my popcorn.Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:The big question is if going light speed and you turn a flashlight what happens?Dave

Originally Posted by mla2ofus

This is way above my paygrade so I'll sit back and eat my popcorn.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

The big question is if going light speed and you turn a flashlight what happens?Dave
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Originally Posted by tapwelder

I heard of folk being fast enough to get into bed before the room gets dark. So, there must be some delay.
Reply:MAC, good question and you made me think I don't subscribe to that ideo thoI've always wondered about heterodyne and light
Reply:I looked up the definition and it's still above my paygrade. Just made fresh popcorn.Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

The big question is if going light speed and you turn a flashlight what happens?Dave
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Originally Posted by smithdoor

The big question is if going light speed and you turn a flashlight what happens?Dave
Reply:Then double speed of light.Dave

Originally Posted by Weldalittle

I think Einstein asked "what does a beam of light look like to someone who is traveling at the speed of light?"  or something along those lines...
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

I looked up the definition and it's still above my paygrade. Just made fresh popcorn.
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Originally Posted by William McCormick

it is pretty easy to prove .....But you can see clearly ...you might be able to see....you would not be able to....no way you could seeWilliam McCormick