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Are they quality units, or Chinese made units?
Reply:No personal experience but   several threads here reference them being made in china but I do believe the quality control is better that may other ChiCom branded machines. bet spend the dough and get a quality brand machine with good customer service and support .  it will be cheaper in the long runTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:They seem to be good welders.The larger ones of 240amps or so can be tried for 90 days and returned if not satisfied.The warranty used to be 3 years.They have been good to deal with,though my purchases have been small.
Reply:I dont think they are chicom think they are italian or something like thatMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:it is definitely hard to keep track of who makes what and where nowdays...Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:They are in fact made in Italy and from what I've seen are excellent welders especially on aluminum.They just came out with the HTP invertig 221 220amp ac dc tig.  It's an inverter basically does everything the dynasty 200dx and then some.  Has individual amperage adjustment on AC so you can have different amperage on dcen than dcep.  Also it comes in a dual voltage model but that one is more money.  And it can do up to 999pps which is pretty damn good.  I have been seriously thinking about one.  For the 220V only option is $2395 and that comes with an air cooled torch and whatever else you need to get going.  The dual voltage model I think was about $2900.  I want one bad but can't bring myself to pull the trigger just yet.
Reply:Morgaj1,Thanks for your interest in our welders.  The country of origin depends on which machine you are referring to. We are happy to answer any questions on our machines - generally the easiest and quickest way to get a question answered is to pick up the phone and call us - 1-800-USA-WELD (800-872-9353).  And you will probably get the most accurate answers.Our TIG Welders, Plasma Cutters, and the MIG 130 are all made in Italy.  Many of the Lincoln Inverters are also made in Italy  - I know the V205-T is for sure.  All of our other Mig Welders (Mig 2400, Mig 200, Mig 160 and Mig 140) are made in Hungary.  None of our welding equipment is made in China.If you have any other questions we would be happy to answer themJeff NolandDrive a LincolnDrink a MillerWeld with an HTP
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Originally Posted by Freestyle72

They are in fact made in Italy and from what I've seen are excellent welders especially on aluminum.They just came out with the HTP invertig 221 220amp ac dc tig.  It's an inverter basically does everything the dynasty 200dx and then some.  Has individual amperage adjustment on AC so you can have different amperage on dcen than dcep.  Also it comes in a dual voltage model but that one is more money.  And it can do up to 999pps which is pretty damn good.  I have been seriously thinking about one.  For the 220V only option is $2395 and that comes with an air cooled torch and whatever else you need to get going.  The dual voltage model I think was about $2900.  I want one bad but can't bring myself to pull the trigger just yet.
Reply:The Esab machine looks like a nice unit, however, the 221 has more features than the Esab machine.  AC frequency is adjustable from 20 to 200 Hz on the 221, and the Esab unit goes from 10 to 152 Hz.  The Esab machine does not offer independent AC Amperage adjustment, which the 221 has, and the 221 is a package which includes the torch, pedal, and flowmeter.Jeff NolandDrive a LincolnDrink a MillerWeld with an HTP
Reply:not sure what HTP policy but I ESAB has a pretty good 100% satisfaction guarantee on anything u buy from them.http://www.esabna.com/us/en/support/...-guarantee.cfmIf I was spending that kind of money on a machine I would be sure that was a local dealer stocking that brand of product and its consumables.     Meaning that they actually carry several of the brands products on the showroom floor, not just we can order it.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
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Originally Posted by con_fuse9

Web site says nothing about dual voltage.  Looks like 220 only.  BTW, Dynasty will do 3 phase as well (kind of defeats the portability part if you actually use 3 phase).At that price range you have to consider ESAB as well. (220V only - but ligh weight water cooler)
Reply:Southpaw,  HTP has a 90 day money back guarantee.  Buy the welder, use it in your shop for 90 days, and if for any reason you don't like it we will take it back.It is a no questions asked guarantee - if you don't like the shade of red, you can return it.Jeff NolandDrive a LincolnDrink a MillerWeld with an HTP
Reply:That's goo to know.  Definitley worth taking a closer look at HTP machines.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:I seriously considered these machines for TIG, esp the smaller ones. I've been buying their TIG consumables for some time now and have been really impressed by their quality selection and value. What can I say... I'm a real fan.
Reply:we have only 2 lws's in my area and they deal only in lincoln, miller, hypertherm and thermal dynamics. thought about esab but dealer support wasn't local.225NT bobcatAEAD200LEScott 125mm175, mm252 w 30A, PT225mm211, TA 181iHyper Therm 380, cut master 529100X & XX, Digital Elite6 Victor setssmith little torch, meco midget kalamazoo band sawsteel max saw evoulution circular saw
Reply:I have the Invertig 201 and could not be any happier.I initially bought it for Aluminum. Its so smooth I use it for everything now.The only thing that I have to complain about, After I bought the 201 they had to come out with the 221!I also have the MicroCut 625.. Serious little work horse..Next on my list is the MTS 160 and the MIG 2400Dont be afraid to get on the phone with them.. They are very helpful.Mike AkinThe only stupid question is the one that was never asked.


Reply:The OP question "Are they quality units, or Chinese made units?" made me think; why does it have to be one or the other? Is everything made in China suppoesdly 'bad'?I can't bring myself to think that unless it says Kemppi or Fronius on the box its poor quality.
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Originally Posted by Jeff N

The Esab machine looks like a nice unit, however, the 221 has more features than the Esab machine.  AC frequency is adjustable from 20 to 200 Hz on the 221, and the Esab unit goes from 10 to 152 Hz.  The Esab machine does not offer independent AC Amperage adjustment, which the 221 has, and the 221 is a package which includes the torch, pedal, and flowmeter.
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Originally Posted by Llundberg

The OP question "Are they quality units, or Chinese made units?" made me think; why does it have to be one or the other? Is everything made in China suppoesdly 'bad'?I can't bring myself to think that unless it says Kemppi or Fronius on the box its poor quality.
Reply:There is not one good thing that China has done for me. They manufacture substandard things and have no problem ripping off others designs.Poor quality. Low morales.Tim Beeker.
Reply:I would LOVE to afford a Kemppi as well but I can't afford AU$5,500 so I have to buy chinese if I want a welder. Either that or go without.
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Originally Posted by Llundberg

The OP question "Are they quality units, or Chinese made units?" made me think; why does it have to be one or the other? Is everything made in China suppoesdly 'bad'?I can't bring myself to think that unless it says Kemppi or Fronius on the box its poor quality.
Reply:Tells us more about your experience with the 161s.
Reply:Whatever you do.. Don't get a Plasmadynhttp://www.plasmadyn.com/That guy raked my a$$ over the coals!My second machine (After the first DOA) worked for a couple of months welding mild steel.It took a crap and I tried for 6 months to get it fixed. After getting no where with the owner of Plasmadyn.I found a company that fixes Chinese units. They stated they could fix all Chinese units.I sent them the unit and they couldn't fix it.They said it was put together with used parts..Soldering and wiring were atrocious.The board was even cracked.I kept the machine extremely clean and never welded anything close to a duty cycle limit.In all, I am out of close to $1000.00Never again.. Never!MikeThe only stupid question is the one that was never asked.


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Originally Posted by Jay O

Tells us more about your experience with the 161s.I have owned and operated the HTP MIG140 for the past 9 years.  Never let me down.  And is a great unit for my needs.  I purchased the HTP Invertig 201 about 6 months ago and couldn't be happier.  Although, the Invertig 221 came out shortly after and made me wish I had waited another couple of months.  But then, we started looking for a TIG machine at work for some lightweight fabrication work and I was able to get them to sign off on the Invertig 221, so I have access to the new machine too.  Haven't fired it up yet as we just got it in.  Now to get the rest of the consumables and the gas bottle and compare it to my 201 side-by-side.For the price I couldn't be happier.  Customer service is second to none.  The machines are perfect for me.
Reply:Would love to know how it performs.. I have the 201.Sigh.. Wondering what I am missing..MikeThe only stupid question is the one that was never asked.


Reply:The HPT welders that I actually see on their website are Italian products produced by STEL and HELVI. Those are good companies with a great value for money, compared with other not China imported machines. The TOP Italian welders manufacturer is SELCO, now under Voestalpine Bohler group control.
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Originally Posted by Freestyle72

Not sure which website you are talking about.  But i saw the dual voltage one here:http://www.usaweld.com/TIG-WELDER-In...70221-12.5.htmIt's $500 more.  And if you scroll to the bottom of the page you can see what the outputs are on 110V
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Originally Posted by danielplace

$2900 singe or $3600 dualIs there more differences on the dual or just voltage ? I haven't studied the spec/special effects. Description is about the same on each.Link to dual voltage,https://usaweld.com/collections/htp-...age-air-cooled
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Originally Posted by danielplace

$2900 singe or $3600 dualIs there more differences on the dual or just voltage ? I haven't studied the spec/special effects. Description is about the same on each.Link to dual voltage,https://usaweld.com/collections/htp-...age-air-cooled