What part is this on a 22re intake?

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2 auto part stores didn’t really no what it was



Reply:Appears to be the throttle body quadrant. If you're referring to the thing with rubber bellows on it, it's the idle control dashpot.MikeLast edited by mla2ofus; 09-30-2019 at 10:25 PM.Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Well I’ll call tomorrow and tell them I need a new dashpod. My idle is high right now. 12-2000 rpm. Makes it very hard to shift with out clutch since the rpm won’t come down. Sometimes won’t go go in 2nd or takes forever. Higher gears aren’t bad
Reply:Remove the dashpot first to see if it is the problem. If you keep shifting without the clutch eventually you'll be grinding gears with or without the clutch when the synchonizers wear out.MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:What will happen if I remove the dashpod? And I bought it with 236k and it has over 305k and shifts great. My knee can’t handle using the clutch
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Originally Posted by motolife313

What will happen if I remove the dashpod? And I bought it with 236k and it has over 305k and shifts great. My knee can’t handle using the clutch
Reply:I took it off and the rpm seems to drop faster then normal. But I can live with it. I may get a new part tomorrow since it seems to let the rpm float and dwell for a sec when reving. Thanks mike!
Reply:Surprising that a parts store wouldn't recognize a dashpot, they've been around for many, many years, their sole purpose is to dampen the closing of the throttle plates.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
Reply:Ya I think I stick a new one on so it dampens it. Thanks
Reply:motolife313If you don't know what it does - you can't know what it is called - or vice versa . . .

Originally Posted by motolife313

2 auto part stores didn’t really no what it was
Reply:A "GOOD" parts man will know his/her stuff, unfortunately most of the chainstores hire minimum wage people that don't give a rat's azz, they have no incentive to give a crap. I have gotten to the point that I try to order everything from Rockauto or Amazon, & that sux because our local NAPA jobber is a good friend of mine and hires parts monkeys that don't know sh1t.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
Reply:motolife313  CAVEMANN - Is correct . . .

Originally Posted by CAVEMANN

A "GOOD" parts man will know his/her stuff, unfortunately most of the . . .
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Originally Posted by motolife313

Well I’ll call tomorrow and tell them I need a new dashpod. My idle is high right now. 12-2000 rpm. Makes it very hard to shift with out clutch since the rpm won’t come down. Sometimes won’t go go in 2nd or takes forever. Higher gears aren’t bad
Reply:Thanks hobbytime. One guy did call it a fast idle but couldn’t find it in the computer. I ordered one from the Toyota dealer yesterday. Doesn’t seem to rev as high and good without the dash pod either. I keep reving it a touch short without it in. And it’s  almost hard to keep up with putting it in gear. I like the dwell time of the dashpod
Reply:dashpot, not dashpod. A dash pod is a vacuum pod in the HVAC system of certain vehicles, located behind the dash hence the name.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
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Originally Posted by motolife313

Thanks hobbytime. One guy did call it a fast idle but couldn’t find it in the computer. I ordered one from the Toyota dealer yesterday. Doesn’t seem to rev as high and good without the dash pod either. I keep reving it a touch short without it in. And it’s  almost hard to keep up with putting it in gear. I like the dwell time of the dashpod
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Originally Posted by CAVEMANN

The computer IS the PROBLEM in the modern parts store. I have worked for NAPA on 2 different occasions, long before computers, as a parts counter person you must know how to use that 6 or 7 foot conglomeration of books to serve your customers, today the average guy doesn't even know how to open a book, let alone a parts catalog. These remarks are based on my experience in numerous parts stores in the Phoenix area. In fairness I did find one gal working at an Autozone that new her stuff, and another guy at an Autozone in Deming, New Mexico, he was an oldtimer.
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Originally Posted by hobbytime

ill add to that..with google and all the other search engines out there, most people have lost there deductive reasoning and ability to solve problems..if they cant get a quick answer from online or watch a you tube video on how to they are lost..now in the hands of the right person these added resources can be a great enhancement , but you need the basics first...
Reply:What's always humorous to me is when a business loses power and salespeople have to make change with their brain instead of the cash register telling them how.MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

What's always humorous to me is when a business loses power and salespeople have to make change with their brain instead of the cash register telling them how.Mike
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

What's always humorous to me is when a business loses power and salespeople have to make change with their brain instead of the cash register telling them how.Mike
Reply:When you want Toyota info go to Toyota forums (there are many) and don't forget your local dealer can pull up exploded views of older parts even if they no longer stock them.Get good at research and you can buy most of your parts online saving gobs of money. Works for me.
Reply:Quick question, have you reconnected the breather hose to the throttle body (circled in yellow) and messed with the idle screw adjustment (circled in red) at all? The idle screw looks backed WAY out which would raise your idle, and if there are any vacuum leaks you'll get a raised and erratic idle.  Also, what RPM is your idle running at cold start, and what's it at up to temp?


Reply:Cold start it high. About 2000 rpm when in the 30’s outside. I’d like to see it at 1500 rpm. And I just let that breather chill out there. There another breather I think that goes in the intake. I’ll try and adjust the screw for a lower cold start. My rpm is at 1000 when warm. Still got the dashpod off and it’s working fine now. My rpm was up for a week or more and it through me off when it went back to normal. Just took a few days to get my muscle memory back to rev it right. It’s wanting to run really cold lately when I’m the freeway and the temp is dropping way down and it raises the rpm I’ll try a new thermostat soon. This happened after putting in antifreeze couple days ago. And the same time I think the antifreeze messed up my head gasket somehow. Bad head gasket? No water the the oil I don’t think. I got some stuff in front of the radiator to help it run hotter on the freeway.

its got over 308 k on it. I’ll do the head gasket real quick if it’s bad and have my friend mill the head. Also I’ll touch up the valve job. Thanks!
Reply:..... trying to resist over here..LoL!WTF.

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Originally Posted by motolife313

Cold start it high. About 2000 rpm when in the 30’s outside. I’d like to see it at 1500 rpm. And I just let that breather chill out there. There another breather I think that goes in the intake. I’ll try and adjust the screw for a lower cold start. My rpm is at 1000 when warm. Still got the dashpod off and it’s working fine now. My rpm was up for a week or more and it through me off when it went back to normal. Just took a few days to get my muscle memory back to rev it right. It’s wanting to run really cold lately when I’m the freeway and the temp is dropping way down and it raises the rpm I’ll try a new thermostat soon. This happened after putting in antifreeze couple days ago. And the same time I think the antifreeze messed up my head gasket somehow. Bad head gasket? No water the the oil I don’t think. I got some stuff in front of the radiator to help it run hotter on the freeway. Attachment 1706836its got over 308 k on it. I’ll do the head gasket real quick if it’s bad and have my friend mill the head. Also I’ll touch up the valve job. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by motolife313

Cold start it high. About 2000 rpm when in the 30’s outside. I’d like to see it at 1500 rpm. And I just let that breather chill out there. There another breather I think that goes in the intake. I’ll try and adjust the screw for a lower cold start. My rpm is at 1000 when warm. Still got the dashpod off and it’s working fine now. My rpm was up for a week or more and it through me off when it went back to normal. Just took a few days to get my muscle memory back to rev it right. It’s wanting to run really cold lately when I’m the freeway and the temp is dropping way down and it raises the rpm I’ll try a new thermostat soon. This happened after putting in antifreeze couple days ago. And the same time I think the antifreeze messed up my head gasket somehow. Bad head gasket? No water the the oil I don’t think. I got some stuff in front of the radiator to help it run hotter on the freeway. Attachment 1706836its got over 308 k on it. I’ll do the head gasket real quick if it’s bad and have my friend mill the head. Also I’ll touch up the valve job. Thanks!
Reply:I got it running at about 900 now. Thanks!

Ya 12v I should get on it. Might do the head gasket this week. I’m 90 percent sure that’s were it’s coming from
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Originally Posted by soutthpaw

You don't even know what the basic components of your engine are yet you think you have the knowledge to correctly replace a head gasket??
Reply:A leak down test would tell you if it's a head gasket and exactly which cylinder (s) are having the issueTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:It would probably start bubbling out of the radiator if I pressurized the cylinders telling me it’s the head gasket. I might do that tomorrow. Might have to weld up a new tool
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Reply:I'm thinkin' it's the oil passage that supplies oil to the cam brgs leaking over into the coolant jacket.MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

I'm thinkin' it's the oil passage that supplies oil to the cam brgs leaking over into the coolant jacket.Mike
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

I'm thinkin' it's the oil passage that supplies oil to the cam brgs leaking over into the coolant jacket.Mike
Reply:do you get any sweet smelling white smoke out the exhaust?
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Originally Posted by Hobbytime

do you get any sweet smelling white smoke out the exhaust?
Reply:Following now.  Go Moto!  You can do it!

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Reply:Pretty sure the antifreeze didn't "somehow" mess up the head gasket. If you're not getting combustion gasses into the cooling system then probably not a head gasket, the leak will flow from the highest pressure to the lower pressure, combustion pressure would over pressure the cooling system and often causes violent eruptions from the radiator, oil pressure would also likely be higher than cooling system pressure. I had a fellow did his own troubleshooting telling me it was head gaskets, I did as "HE" wanted and did the head gasket job, he had the exact same problem when finished, ended up he needed a $5 thermostat and 30 minutes of labor.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
Reply:Some cars have oil coolers built into the radiator and can leak oil into the radiator and coolant into the oil.  Typically this happens on some fords with trans oil coolers built into the rad.If it's running like crap or erratic could be an intake manifold gasket.  I'm not familiar with the engine you are working on so I dont know if and where cooling passages might be next to oil passeges for oil to mix with the coolant.Is it possible someone put oil in the radiator some time in the past.  When was the last time you flushed the cooling system?Last edited by N2 Welding; 11-03-2019 at 10:41 PM.Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo.  Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
Reply:That's a lot of oil in the coolant to look like that. As mentioned if combustion gases were entering the cooling system it would almost certainly over pressure. Most likely time to shop for another vehicle or an engine.Miller xmt304,  Miller S22 p12, Miier Maxstar SD, Miller 252 w 30A, Miller super32p12, Lincoln Ranger 9, Thermal Arc 181I with spoolgun, Hypertherm 10000 ,Smith torches. Esab 161lts miniarc.
Reply:I know for a fact this has a stick tranny so unless there's an engine oil cooler in the radiator I doubt that's the problem. The oil leak could be in the head gasket and leaking into a coolant passage.MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I’ll just redo the head gasket
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

I know for a fact this has a stick tranny so unless there's an engine oil cooler in the radiator I doubt that's the problem. The oil leak could be in the head gasket and leaking into a coolant passage.Mike
Reply:Not stepping on you, n2. Just pointing out what I know about this vehicle. My diagnosis is not guaranteed, just a shot in the dark.MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Cracked head. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProMiller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

Not stepping on you, n2. Just pointing out what I know about this vehicle. My diagnosis is not guaranteed, just a shot in the dark.Mike
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Originally Posted by N2 Welding

Oh no by all means I'm just tossing out ideas.  I have no experience with Moto's engine so I'm sure you know better than me

will Moto need new head bolts?
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Originally Posted by John T

Cracked head. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Originally Posted by N2 Welding

Oh no by all means I'm just tossing out ideas.  I have no experience with Moto's engine so I'm sure you know better than me

will Moto need new head bolts?