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I have been pretty much into hobby metal fab/art in my garage since more than a year. I have a 210EXT and love it.I also have a Lincoln 180 weldpak which serves me very well but it is 240V only.I have just been wondering about pulse mig and/or finer controls where I can see voltage etc in display, plus dual voltage so I can do some outdoor projects too. Earlier I had to replace some metal plates in a staircase and had to take my 210EXT to stick weld it. Could be faster with mig and flux core.I have been looking at Everlast iMIG 200, 230i, and recently the 251Si. The 253DPi is nice but again 240V only so sort of not leaning to it.I also know the Vulcan MigMax 215 has got rave reviews.I may also consider Aluminium mig, maybe using a teflon liner in a normal mig gun.Any particular suggestions among those models?
Reply:Why are you needing 120 volt? Are you going around the house welding? How about going to TIG for Aluminum? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:120V for convenience for when I need to take it a little far from the garage (beyond 240v ext cord). TIG for Alum is already covered by 210EXT. I wanted to have a good option for MIG Alum. I know a spool gun with my lincoln can do it, but looking for finer controls etc.
Reply:Skip the neverlast and go for the horror fright vulcan with the 1 yr return warranty even if you are not happy with it!
Reply:These Miller Multimatic 200's are some fine little machines. They weld really well when you have only 120 volt too. Also runs the tig torch really well. I like my Bernard gun on mine but the new ones are coming with the new Miller MDX 250 mig gun.https://www.millerwelds.com/equipmen...-welder-m00361
Reply:I think you are better off with the HF MIG welder. Less hassle, and perhaps right next to you in case anything happens as far as warranty is concerned, as opposed to having to ship the machine back for warranty claims.If you want to mig aluminum without spool gun, you gonna have to fork much more. You should take a look at the HTP Pro Pulse 220 at abit over $2000.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMiller Dynasty 280 DX TIGRunnerFronius Transsteel 2200
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Originally Posted by astronut
Skip the neverlast and go for the horror fright vulcan with the 1 yr return warranty even if you are not happy with it!
Reply:Hobart 210 $999.99 w/ spool gun. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...2096_200722096Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:MIG is very power hungry, so 120V will have very, very limited use. If you want a good MIG solution for aluminum, look no further than the HTP ProPulse 220 MTS. Sure it ain't dual-voltage, but it's worth it to buy/make an extension cord for it . It has 10 built in programs just for aluminum in pulse and double-pulse (21 programs in total).
It's a kick-a*& MIG/multi-process welder. Just swap the guns and you can do steel welding as well as aluminum. If you must have 120V capability, you can use any 240V welder on a LiteFuze LT-5000 voltage converter. It's gonna be limited to about ~100A though. Even a dual-voltage MIG isn't that much better either.
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Reply:I recommend a longer 240 volt extension cord. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Oscar
MIG is very power hungry, so 120V will have very, very limited use. If you want a good MIG solution for aluminum, look no further than the HTP ProPulse 220 MTS. Sure it ain't dual-voltage, but it's worth it to buy/make an extension cord for it . It has 10 built in programs just for aluminum in pulse and double-pulse (21 programs in total).
It's a kick-a*& MIG/multi-process welder. Just swap the guns and you can do steel welding as well as aluminum. If you must have 120V capability, you can use any 240V welder on a LiteFuze LT-5000 voltage converter. It's gonna be limited to about ~100A though. Even a dual-voltage MIG isn't that much better either.
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Originally Posted by jeffrey.penfield
I recommend a longer 240 volt extension cord. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by therider
That is a very useful input, thanks a lot. I will check out the HTP PP 220, it seems out of stock. Alternative is Everlast 253DPi.
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Originally Posted by Broccoli1
That promotion is over now.
Reply:They may still honor the warranty on the welders that were sold with the "1 yr guarantee even if you dont like it" but there is no mention of "that" guarantee now. The warranty now that I can find is:We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 1 year from the date of purchase. Limitations apply.So I don't think you can take it back and just get your money back for no reason. It would have to be broke and then you would just get another welder or a horrible freight give card.
Reply:I am going to check with the local manager next time I am in his store. From what I gather he owns the store and not horror fright.
Reply:Do you really need dual pulse mig? Both the everlast PowerMTS 251si. And the power I-mig275 will single pulse mig. I know the 275 is not dual voltage but with the lower price tag, you can buy/make a really long extension cord.
Reply:I do not see the point of 120v MIG welders. Especially if you're wanting pulse. Pulse gobbles up input power.
Reply:I exchanged few emails with htp customer service. They can still give me the back to school promo of the 220 mts which comes with 2 min guns and lots of consumables. It is a good deal at $2195.I have considered the powermts 251 as well for its single pulse and lower price.The only reason for dual volts is in case I need to take it outside house for limited regular mig on thin steel. Pulse and all will use my garage 240v.Still thinking...
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Originally Posted by astronut
Not at my local HF. They still honor it!
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Originally Posted by Broccoli1
That's a good deal then.I noticed they don't have it up on the website and my local said it was over.
Reply:I ended up ordering the htp pp 220 mts as they offered me the back-to-school sale with all the following items (regular sale includes one mig gun):A 24 Series MIG Welding GunA 26 Series MIG Welding GunA 24 Series Consumable KitA 26 Series Consumable KitA 10 Lb. Spool of .030" Mild Steel WireA 10 Lb. Spool of .035" E71T1M Flux-Cored Dual Shield WireA 5 Lb. Spool of .035" 4043 Aluminum WireA Knurled Drive Roll for Welding Flux-Cored WireA Drive Roll for Welding Aluminum WireA 15' Electrode Holder2 Lbs. of 1/8" MG80T Stick ElectrodesWhat really sold me is the ability to use a separate mig gun for Aluminium and not needing a spool gun, also the reviews and popularity of this unit (reason for mostly out of stock). I was almost going for a Everlast 230i or a 251Si but those do not have synergic pulse modes which this one has. I went over budget but hopefully I will make good use of the features.For outside welding needs (if that ever arises) I have my Everlast 210ext dual voltage machine for stick welding.
Reply:Good call. My ProPulse's are the exclusive interior-lighted models:
And it has the red + dinse port:
Anyways
, let me know if you want a "custom nozzle" to cut down on shielding gas costs for dual shield/aluminum due to the necessarily long electrical stick-out. I think I should still have some extras laying around.
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Originally Posted by therider
I ended up ordering the htp pp 220 mts as they offered me the back-to-school sale with all the following items (regular sale includes one mig gun):A 24 Series MIG Welding GunA 26 Series MIG Welding GunA 24 Series Consumable KitA 26 Series Consumable KitA 10 Lb. Spool of .030" Mild Steel WireA 10 Lb. Spool of .035" E71T1M Flux-Cored Dual Shield WireA 5 Lb. Spool of .035" 4043 Aluminum WireA Knurled Drive Roll for Welding Flux-Cored WireA Drive Roll for Welding Aluminum WireA 15' Electrode Holder2 Lbs. of 1/8" MG80T Stick ElectrodesWhat really sold me is the ability to use a separate mig gun for Aluminium and not needing a spool gun, also the reviews and popularity of this unit (reason for mostly out of stock). I was almost going for a Everlast 230i or a 251Si but those do not have synergic pulse modes which this one has. I went over budget but hopefully I will make good use of the features.For outside welding needs (if that ever arises) I have my Everlast 210ext dual voltage machine for stick welding.
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Originally Posted by Oscar
Good call. My ProPulse's are the exclusive interior-lighted models:And it has the red + dinse port:Anyways
, let me know if you want a "custom nozzle" to cut down on shielding gas costs for dual shield/aluminum due to the necessarily long electrical stick-out. I think I should still have some extras laying around.Congrats on the purchase! I think you will be very happy with it and HTP's customer service!
Reply:I just purchased an EASTWOOD 140 machine that comes setup for mig, tig & stick welding, runs on 120 volts. so far I am satisfied with it, I don't do heavy welding just hobby stuff. This machine replaced my Canpbell Hausfield mig machine I got in 2001 that was underwater from storm IRMA (2017) & still worked. I also have a miller 240v 250 amp stick machine for bigger jobs, also under water from storm.
Reply:Check out the ESAB Rebel welders!Self-sufficient...to the end...Engineer and build it allMiller CST280ESAB EMP 235AbeneRockwellAtlasFlukeand the list goes on....
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Originally Posted by fixit32068
I just purchased an EASTWOOD 140 machine that comes setup for mig, tig & stick welding, runs on 120 volts. so far I am satisfied with it, I don't do heavy welding just hobby stuff. This machine replaced my Canpbell Hausfield mig machine I got in 2001 that was underwater from storm IRMA (2017) & still worked. I also have a miller 240v 250 amp stick machine for bigger jobs, also under water from storm.
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Originally Posted by therider
Underwater and then worked -- speaks volume on ruggedness.
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Originally Posted by astronut
Congrats on the purchase! I think you will be very happy with it and HTP's customer service!
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
Yes. Try that with an inverter machine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Munkul
Having said that, I'm in no hurry to try the same with mine
Reply:The htp pp 220 mts blew my mind today. I was trying to weld 1/16 steel earlier with my Lincoln 180 and I was melting edges too often. Next lower voltage was too low and could not find much better wire speed too. Although that welder works very well with 1/8 steel.Then I set up the htp and tried the pulse mode and omg the weld was so much better and nearly effortless in full synergic mode!!!Now I really understand why they say you get what you pay for.Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by therider
The htp pp 220 mts blew my mind today. I was trying to weld 1/16 steel earlier with my Lincoln 180 and I was melting edges too often. Next lower voltage was too low and could not find much better wire speed too. Although that welder works very well with 1/8 steel.Then I set up the htp and tried the pulse mode and omg the weld was so much better and nearly effortless in full synergic mode!!!Now I really understand why they say you get what you pay for.Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
Reply:No pics yet but will take soon.Oh I used only 75/25 for the pulse, if it works this good then who knows how much better it will be with 92/8...Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by therider
No pics yet but will take soon.Oh I used only 75/25 for the pulse, if it works this good then who knows how much better it will be with 92/8...Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Munkul
it has been known
heard stories of both Miller XMTs and ESAB warrior inverters being flooded/dropped into rivers, pulled out, dried and working again just fine.Having said that, I'm in no hurry to try the same with mine
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Originally Posted by therider
No pics yet but will take soon.Oh I used only 75/25 for the pulse, if it works this good then who knows how much better it will be with 92/8...Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
Reply:Very interesting, didn't know about gas mixers before...Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by therider
Very interesting, didn't know about gas mixers before...Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
Reply:Wow, that is pretty cool!Due to lack of space at the moment I will probably try it later. Regular mig is working out very well.Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by N2 Welding
This is news to me. I think the main thing to consider with most inverter machines especially ones made in China is the integrated circuits are made from inferior components that are engineered to fail eventually and most commonly with in 7 years. I have not done my homework on all Chinese built machines like say the ESAB Rebel etc to know if they are using American, German, or Japanese components but my best guess would be not so I'd gamble on them not lasting much longer than 7 years. It's sad how inflation and corporate greed pushes poor lasting and poor quality machines for top dollar.
Reply:Good day allJust thought to ask original post OP about updates after a few years use 😇..Also Oscar I sending u a msg ..
Reply:I would look paying a little more for a Hobart, Lincoln or Miller.I own both Hobart and Miller they both I own almost 30 years. I cleaned once a year. Lincoln is good choice too but my supplier did handle Lincoln. Dave
Originally Posted by therider
I have been pretty much into hobby metal fab/art in my garage since more than a year. I have a 210EXT and love it.I also have a Lincoln 180 weldpak which serves me very well but it is 240V only.I have just been wondering about pulse mig and/or finer controls where I can see voltage etc in display, plus dual voltage so I can do some outdoor projects too. Earlier I had to replace some metal plates in a staircase and had to take my 210EXT to stick weld it. Could be faster with mig and flux core.I have been looking at Everlast iMIG 200, 230i, and recently the 251Si. The 253DPi is nice but again 240V only so sort of not leaning to it.I also know the Vulcan MigMax 215 has got rave reviews.I may also consider Aluminium mig, maybe using a teflon liner in a normal mig gun.Any particular suggestions among those models?
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Originally Posted by smithdoor
I would look paying a little more for a Hobart, Lincoln or Miller.I own both Hobart and Miller they both I own almost 30 years. I cleaned once a year. Lincoln is good choice too but my supplier did handle Lincoln. Dave
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Originally Posted by dieselxcoffee
Good day allJust thought to ask original post OP about updates after a few years use |
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发表于 2021-9-1 23:18:06