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This is at my bank. It is about one mile from my shop.  These doors are down often.  So I have inquired about repairing them on multiple occasions.  However it is low bid and I don't think I could bid low enough.Repair is about 3 weeks old

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Last edited by tapwelder; 04-20-2017 at 01:35 PM.
Reply:That is HORRENDOUS. I Have some juicy fruit that will stick better then how that looks.
Reply:Because the bank got exactly the quality of workmanship they were prepared to pay for.---Meltedmetal
Reply:I don't think it is a money issue...The repair person bid to do the job...complete the job.  Not even like it was an overwelming volume of work. They just were not skilled.
Reply:Whoever did that should be shot!Both from welding and mechanical standpoint.I won't comment on the welds. But using a LOCK WASHER as a spacer/bearing?!?!?! I mean WTF?-------------Go ahead and bid the job. What's the worst that happen? They'll say "No". Maybe, just maybe they'll let you do the work properly and pay you the quoted price. Think of what a clear conscience you'll have if that happened!Last edited by mike837go; 04-20-2017 at 02:21 PM.Be wary of The Numbers: Figures don't lie,. but liars can figure.Welders:2008 Lincoln 140 GMAW&FCAW2012 HF 165 'toy' GTAW&SMAW1970's Cobbled together O/A
Reply:Likely appropriate in this case...But it looks like they only got the "Cheap" part and neither of the other two.

Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by tapwelder

This is at my bank.
Reply:Probably the bankers golf buddy/brother/ in law etc. that "has a welder."Miller Dynasty 350Miller CP300Miller CP200Lincoln Idealarc 250/250Smith torchLagun FTV-2Kent 13x40 TRL latheBunch of other metal cutting tools
Reply:I would fire the guy that hired them !
Reply:That lock washer holds it together Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk

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Reply:Some people should not be allowed to touch anything....zap!

I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing

Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
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Originally Posted by zapster

Some people should not be allowed to touch anything....zap!
Reply:Is that the bank vaults door? If yes give me the address.

Dave ReberWadsworth Ohio
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Originally Posted by Reebs

Is that the bank vaults door? If yes give me the address.


Reply:Looks like an after hours withdrawal at that bank wouldn't be to hard to arrange if that is the standard of the work there!
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Originally Posted by Meltedmetal

Because the bank got exactly the quality of workmanship they were prepared to pay for.
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Originally Posted by tapwelder

I don't think it is a money issue...The repair person bid to do the job...complete the job.  Not even like it was an overwelming volume of work. They just were not skilled.
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Originally Posted by mike837go

I'll argue that one with you, Mr. Zapster.People should be free to practice and hone there skills. Just not in public.The Supreme Court mentioned something about "...in the privacy of their own bedrooms..."Can we agree to live with that?
Reply:C'mon everyone, paint is much stronger than you think...
Reply:Upon further reflection this job was probably a package maintenance deal.  Bank rep. Said the open bids ones per year.On that gate there was wood to do also.  So perhaps a wood guy in over his head. I hope...
Reply:That must have been done by a government welder. Seen lots of that when I worked for the government as its all low bid.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:PETA is going to be mad... Somebody has been squeezing seagulls.
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Originally Posted by mike837go

I won't comment on the welds. But using a LOCK WASHER as a spacer/bearing?!?!?! I mean WTF?
Reply:It wouldn't be funny if someone's kid got hurt when their hob cob job fell apart and injured him or her. Come on folks, lets have some pride in our profession or step back and just say it's above my skill level. Just because the maintenance man has a Harbor Freight buzz box special don't give him the right to run out his 50' extension cord and pile on the globs like there's no tomorrow!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk1968-'70 Lincoln SA 200 code 6633Millermatic 200  serial#JE834063
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Originally Posted by Reebs

Is that the bank vaults door? If yes give me the address.



Originally Posted by 12V71

PETA is going to be mad... Somebody has been squeezing seagulls.
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Originally Posted by 12V71

PETA is going to be mad... Somebody has been squeezing seagulls.
Reply:WOW! They should have just used JB Weld.
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave

Likely appropriate in this case...But it looks like they only got the "Cheap" part and neither of the other two.Attachment 1651151
Reply:I bet the welder (used very loosely) has posted here on using a 110 volt Mig. And repairs trailers and exhaust systems.
Reply:I think I have solved the conundrum.Obviously the boofhead painter must have knocked all the joint holding slag off the weld before applying the paint! She would have looked great before he did that!
Reply:No bank left behind.
Reply:They obviously ran out of cellophane tape.
Reply:Should have used more caulk on there after
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Originally Posted by shovelon

I bet your wife hates you.
Reply:You guys are looking at this all wrong.This was done to generate jobs.Consider all the different trades that will be involved when the weld fails.The medics in the aid car.The surgeon and other associated staff at the hospitalInsurance adjusters.The lawyers and their staff.The court and all it's personnel staff.The governing body's inspector (a must after someone is injured)A new supervisor at the bank  to supervise the supervisor that allowed such a repair.and finally a competent welder to save the day and make a repair that ain't a hazard!I am an industrial hobbyistIf I listed my tools, most of you would just cry.
Reply:Oh Boy silly me! I forgot about all them man-eaten sharks....Now class, what did we learn today?"The wheels of the bus go round and round..."🦈Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk1968-'70 Lincoln SA 200 code 6633Millermatic 200  serial#JE834063
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Originally Posted by Bonzoo

No bank left behind.
Reply:I'm not buying it. The bank, or anybody at the bank has no idea what a good weld should look like. They're bankers. It's stuck together, that's what they paid for. It's good enough for the bank. The issue I have is the gentleman/company who did this repair. Welding is not a skill they possess. They should get into something else. The bank should have used the services of a local known machine/welding shop.Neither side of the hinge is fused to the frame at all.Last edited by snoeproe; 04-21-2017 at 06:34 PM.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
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Originally Posted by snoeproe

I'm not buying it.
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Same hinge from original post 4 years ago.  Took the photo today.  Coincidentally i happen to see the guy doing this repair about 4yrs ago after i started this thread.  I guess it takes more than a nice truck, cargo trailer and some horses to make dependable welds.Really sad.  There is no weld penetration on the post? It is like 14g thick.  I presume the DIY hinges seized and exposed the weak layer of filler.I will attempt to get the job again?  At this point, I think it worth the $ of the 3 previous repairs plus mine price?Last edited by tapwelder; 07-07-2021 at 02:31 AM.
Reply:Gonna cost them a heck of a lot more when the door falls off and flattens someone............Mike
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Originally Posted by tapwelder




Reply:The original job didn't repair it... it made it worse for the guy that actually does repair it. All that crap has to be ground off. The weld on the gusset is pitiful too!
Reply:A grinder and paint won't make that Guy a welder.
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Originally Posted by mcostello

A grinder and paint won't make that Guy a welder.
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Originally Posted by tapwelder

This is at my bank. It is about one mile from my shop.  These doors are down often.  So I have inquired about repairing them on multiple occasions.  However it is low bid and I don't think I could bid low enough.Repair is about 3 weeks old
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Originally Posted by Kelvin

Imagine how wisely they invest your money!
Reply:I’ve seen skyscraper windows like that , a lot of them.    In fact I saw whole tractor trailer loads coming back as rejects from Canadian hi rise jobs.     There is some outfit in NYC that makes those huge wall windows.     They just sent out the garbage with the good ones and the buyers would send them back as rejects    When I worked for US Customs / CBP. I’d go out and look to see why they’d have a semi load of all rejects but they’d alway be right there.    Plenty of weld spatter all over the inside of the glass, chunks of slag, discarded pieces of burnt stick , trash and even some frozen rods sticking up where they left it.    Quality #1 right and I saw this whenever I decided to check a truckload. These truck loads came through at least every couple days for years

.    I guess the price was right.   Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Reply:That good news for good welders. I like repair as the owner has already paid good money but. The owner wants a good job done and willing to pay.I only quote all my work and they happy 😊 with a good job.Dave

Originally Posted by tapwelder

This is at my bank. It is about one mile from my shop.  These doors are down often.  So I have inquired about repairing them on multiple occasions.  However it is low bid and I don't think I could bid low enough.Repair is about 3 weeks old