220 in a 110?

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do any of you know if a 220 amp welder would run the same in a 110 outlet? or would there be problems?thanks.
Reply:I think you mean 110 volt and/or 220 volt. Some welders can be switched between 220 and 110 single phase. I just wired a sub box into my garage and put in a 220 outlet on a double breaker. If you haven't done house wiring before you should hire a professional.The owners manual should tell you if the welder can be set to run on 110v but even if you can the duty cycle and capabilities of the machine will be greatly reduced.
Reply:yea i meant volt not amp, is there any other way to get 220volts with out doing other wiring?
Reply:The power cord on a 220V appliance has two hot leads.  Each of these carries 110V-120V.   Although I don't recommend it, you could take the hot leads from 12guage cords plugged into two separate 110V outlets and wire them to the hot leads on the power plug.   You would have to split the neutral (and ground if nec.) from the 220V power plug and tie then to both the neutrals and grounds from the separate cords.     Before I had my backup generator sub-panel hooked up, during a power outage, I had to hot wire my 220V water well pump to run off the 120V outlets on the generator.   I did what I described above and it worked, but again, I don't recommend it.If your house has a breaker panel, just swap out 2 single pole breakers for an appropriate sized double pole breaker and run your 220V appliance off that.    As far as wiring, rather than run hard wires for the 220V outlet and be restricted to where I can plug in my welder, I have a 20' length of #10/3 coming out of the bottom of the panel in my workshop.  There's a NEMA 6-50 plug on the end. If you don't have any open spaces in your panel, look into getting a pair of split single pole breakers.   They're two separate single pole breakers, that fit in the space of a normal single pole.   That will give to a place to hook up the two single pole circuits you displaced for the 220V two pole breaker.Last edited by imagineer; 07-13-2006 at 09:27 PM.There are no small projects
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Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerThe power cord on a 220V appliance has two hot leads.  Each of these carries 110V-120V.   Although I don't recommend it, you could take the hot leads from 12guage cords plugged into two separate 110V outlets and wire them to the hot leads on the power plug.   You would have to split the neutral (and ground if nec.) from the 220V power plug and tie then to both the neutrals and grounds from the separate cords.
Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerIf your house has a breaker panel, just swap out 2 single pole breakers for an appropriate sized double pole breaker and run your 220V appliance off that.    As far as wiring, rather than run hard wires for the 220V outlet and be restricted to where I can plug in my welder, I have a 20' length of #10/3 coming out of the bottom of the panel in my workshop.  There's a NEMA 6-50 plug on the end. If you don't have any open spaces in your panel, look into getting a pair of split single pole breakers.   They're two separate single pole breakers, that fit in the space of a normal single pole.   That will give to a place to hook up the two single pole circuits you displaced for the 220V two pole breaker.
Reply:Originally Posted by MAC702Specifically, these "separate" outlets MUST also be on separate busses in the main panel, fed from opposite sides of the neutral.  If you don't recommend it, putting the idea in someone's head can be rather dangerous.  Most people should not even be aware that this is even possible.
Reply:HelloIn order to get 220 volts from a breaker panel you do indeed have to be on 2 different hot busses in the panel. If you look at the double pole breaker you refer to , you will see that it is in fact straddling 2 different busses.If you closely inspect the breaker panel you will see that the 2 hot busses in the panel weave back and forth so that it is possible to lock a double breaker into the connectors for one hot bus (which is fine if you are running 2 seperate circuits for lights say on one leg and 110v outlets on the other.If you tie your double breaker into one buss you wont get 220v even if you wire it into a 220v recepticle.If you straddle the double breaker with one side of the breaker on buss L1 and the other on buss L2 you could still run 2 seperate circuits and have 110v on each for lights etc or you can tie them into a 220v recepticle and have your 220v.hope this helps
Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerIf the two feeds have to be on separate busses, then why are both feeds on a 2 pole breaker on the same panel buss.   As longe as the separate 120v feeds are sourced from circuits on different single pole breakers, its no different.
Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerIf the two feeds have to be on separate busses, then why are both feeds on a 2 pole breaker on the same panel buss.   As longe as the separate 120v feeds are sourced from circuits on different single pole breakers, its no different.
Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerAlthough I don't recommend it, you could take the hot leads from 12guage cords plugged into two separate 110V outlets and wire them to the hot leads on the power plug.   You would have to split the neutral (and ground if nec.) from the 220V power plug and tie then to both the neutrals and grounds from the separate cords.
Reply:Originally Posted by imagineerIf the two feeds have to be on separate busses, then why are both feeds on a 2 pole breaker on the same panel buss.   As longe as the separate 120v feeds are sourced from circuits on different single pole breakers, its no different.
Reply:Originally Posted by Patrick_76For lack of a better way to put it, that may not be exactly to code.
Reply:I was pretty sure it wasn't to code, but since i'm not an electrician, I didn't want to sound like an expert by saying it was to code.  You're right though, it would work, if done properly, but I don't want to do it.  Best and only way IMHO is to wire it right at the box and run to one plug, not try to redneck engineer the wires to get the desired result.  Come to think of it, If I had 4 separate 110V lines, could I wire up 440  Patrick
Reply:we should ALL take CLOSE look at questions/ answers he said 220(AMP) i'm sure he's talking bout 220 volt.  and if so running  220 volt on 110-120 volt it would not have the VOLTS to run properly. but i would not try to. but you can use 2 110-120 volt circuts to make 1-220 volts circut
Reply:Or If you have a 240 dryer outlet with a double pole breaker that meets the amp requirments for your welder you could just make a extension cord. That's of course if moneys a issue and you don't mind running a extension cored all the time. and the wife don't mind waitting to dry the clothes.  I had to do it for a little while  but I only ran a cord 25 feetLast edited by aluminumman75; 07-14-2006 at 05:17 PM.
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Reply:Originally Posted by Patrick_76If I had 4 separate 110V lines, could I wire up 440  Patrick
Reply:I enjoyed the tangent, im sure it helped alot more people than lust me. And you did clarify alot for me thanks!