Generator Welders That ALSO Plug In?

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Wanted to find out whether anyone knows of a generator welder that also allows one to "plug in" and use the welder without running the generator motor?  I coulda swore that there's one out there...Something for construction sites where you might be without power until you get it hooked up, and be able to save $$$ by not having to run the fuel, maintenance, etc involved with the motor.ThermalArc 185MillerMatic 180 w/ AutosetVictor Cutskill Oxy/AcetyleneThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 38and spite!
Reply:I have never heard of it.  I can plug my arcmaster 185 into my ranger 250.  Gas welders are for remote use.  The generator motion is made by the gas engine.   Lincoln used to make "motor generators" which were the arm and rotor from a gas welder driven by an electric motor.  This made nice DC current with out rectafiers.  (I'll try speel checker)DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:The Miller Pipe Pro 304 has that option, but at $12,000 I think you could buy more than a few smaller welders. Also from what I have heard they have some reliability issues.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingThe Miller Pipe Pro 304 has that option, but at $12,000 I think you could buy more than a few smaller welders. Also from what I have heard they have some reliability issues.
Reply:are you looking to buy a machine with this capability or just looking for info because your buddy has one?if your looking to buy, id consider a machine that has all the features you want and then just get a generator to power it.
Reply:I WAS looking into them for another buddy up in AK.  Called around and had one dealer who was insanely adamant that there has never ever never been a generator/welder built like that.  My other buddy actually has one.  I was wondering whether Id had lost my mind or something, and figured itd be a good thing to post up on the forums for posterity's sake.  I myself am holding out on buying a generator as my mother may be giving me her Honda 5200.Seems like everyone I know is running 300A+ systems.ThermalArc 185MillerMatic 180 w/ AutosetVictor Cutskill Oxy/AcetyleneThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 38and spite!
Reply:So there's a gas powered rig out there where you plug an AC cable into it to run the welder side without starting the engine? It that it? What benefit is that ?  Craftsman 230a Buzz-box,  Lincoln 140T & 180T, Century K2789, PUROX W202 O/A14" cheapo chop saw that cuts straight and square!A toolbox of the cheapest Chinese tools money can buy"Real" tools all old reliable Husky/Craftsman/Proto stuff
Reply:Think construction phasing.Early phases of construction you would need to run the generator, but in later phases you'd have it hooked to the grid at which point you could "plug in" rather than run the generator (wasting fuel/racking up maintenance costs/etc).  Would also allow you to use the generator for other uses if needed.  Just makes it so you arent trashing your box so much.ThermalArc 185MillerMatic 180 w/ AutosetVictor Cutskill Oxy/AcetyleneThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 38and spite!
Reply:Ok, that makes some sense. But I'd expect those Trailblazers to be tough SOBS for $12k so running them might be better for them?Craftsman 230a Buzz-box,  Lincoln 140T & 180T, Century K2789, PUROX W202 O/A14" cheapo chop saw that cuts straight and square!A toolbox of the cheapest Chinese tools money can buy"Real" tools all old reliable Husky/Craftsman/Proto stuff
Reply:Originally Posted by wallythackerSo there's a gas powered rig out there where you plug an AC cable into it to run the welder side without starting the engine? It that it? What benefit is that ?
Reply:Much cheaper with a seperate welder and generator. Maxstars run fine on even small generators (Note: I don't know if Miller recommends this, but I'v don it with mine and know several poeple that do it wih theirs). My 150 will run on a 3500W generator pretty much full tilt for TIG. Havent gone above about 100A on stick with that setup. I also have run acoss a pile of people that run XMT's on 10KVA generators.
Reply:Bad news the price is even higher check their web site it's actually$14,333.00 US ....http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...n/pipepro_304/A great, "BIG BLUE" machine that is T-t's for the Pipeline crews, but a little too much machine for the home shop...  snickerDefinately targeted to a particular area of the welding industry if ever there was one. Washman
Reply:Originally Posted by WashmanBad news the price is even higher check their web site it's actually$14,333.00 US ....