Attaching box to Skid steer

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I plan to build a couple of boxes to hold some weights for the back end of my skid steer.The box will be approx. 10"x8"x8" and will hold 4 weights I found at the scrap yard.  Each weight is 8"x2"x6" and 40 lbs each, for a total weight of 160 lbs per side.  My question is should I plan to thru-bolt the box so I have 4 bolts a little over 8" supporting the load or have 4 shorter bolts (1-1/2" x 5/8" diameter) just bolted thru the inside wall of the box.I hope this is clear.  I attached a pic.of how the weights are normally attached..
Reply:I had a small L225 before I got my Case 1835C.  The weights on my L225 were attached identically to what you have.  I did however come up with a 6 x 6 x 12 square solid steel bar and welded a bolt on it and attached it to the hitch on the rear of the machine.  Helped a lot.  Are you planning on removing the original weights on the sides?  I'd leave them on and add something to the rear under the cross arm from the loader frame.
Reply:Originally Posted by paweldorI had a small L225 before I got my Case 1835C.  The weights on my L225 were attached identically to what you have.  I did however come up with a 6 x 6 x 12 square solid steel bar and welded a bolt on it and attached it to the hitch on the rear of the machine.  Helped a lot.  Are you planning on removing the original weights on the sides?  I'd leave them on and add something to the rear under the cross arm from the loader frame.
Reply:I know this is a welding forum but have you thought of putting lime in the tires? We used to do it alot for weight on our skidsteers
Reply:Originally Posted by landmanI know this is a welding forum but have you thought of putting lime in the tires? We used to do it alot for weight on our skidsteers
Reply:I have big "saddle" weights on the front of my Oliver.  Each weight(maybe 150-200lbs) is held by it's own set of bolts.  A hole in the weight allows another bolt to go thru it to support the next "further out" weight.  A set of 3 weights is held in place by 6 bolts.  Two for each weight.  Grade8 3/4 coarse bolts.  And the weights are only about 2" thick per slab.As the bolt becomes longer, it's more susceptable to breaking.If you are going to bolt a box to the side of the machine, it would be a good idea to design the box to take most of the weight, while just figuring on the bolts to resist shear and pullout.  I don't believe a longer bolt would substitute for a stout box.I think it's a cantilevered load.  So there must be a way to spread the load out so that it does not just depend on the  strength of the bolts over a long distance to support it.I don't have the idea fully fleshed out, but I hope you get some ideaLast edited by farmersamm; 03-10-2009 at 01:35 AM.Reason: bolt grade messup"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:one cubic  foot of mild steel is around 500 pounds12"x12"x12"=1728 cu in8"x2"x6"=96cu in96/1728=,o5 x500 pounds=25poundsthoise weights are 25# not 40#
Reply:Originally Posted by GLwelderHey PA, I should have made it clearer, that picture is not my unit, mine's not as pretty.Those weights are NH factory, I have some scrap that I want to put in side a small box I fab, then attach to the sides were the original mounting holes are.  Owning a Skid Steer you know how heavy a bucket of wet dirt or crushed aspault can be. W/O the weight sometimes I could only fill my bucket 3/4.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadone cubic  foot of mild steel is around 500 pounds12"x12"x12"=1728 cu in8"x2"x6"=96cu in96/1728=,o5 x500 pounds=25poundsthoise weights are 25# not 40#
Reply:If the back side of that skid steer is 1/2 plate,  I would just drill and tap.. I think you would be fine.  I have seen rear weights on tracked front end loaders done that way... Shouldn't be a problem.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI have big "saddle" weights on the front of my Oliver.  Each weight(maybe 150-200lbs) is held by it's own set of bolts.  A hole in the weight allows another bolt to go thru it to support the next "further out" weight.  A set of 3 weights is held in place by 6 bolts.  Two for each weight.  Grade8 3/4 coarse bolts.  And the weights are only about 2" thick per slab.As the bolt becomes longer, it's more susceptable to breaking.If you are going to bolt a box to the side of the machine, it would be a good idea to design the box to take most of the weight, while just figuring on the bolts to resist shear and pullout.  I don't believe a longer bolt would substitute for a stout box.I think it's a cantilevered load.  So there must be a way to spread the load out so that it does not just depend on the  strength of the bolts over a long distance to support it.I don't have the idea fully fleshed out, but I hope you get some idea
Reply:Alternatively, You could drill holes through the back and insert a long bolt from the inside and tack weld the head to the plate so that the bolt threads are sticking out the back...All you have to do is slide the weights on and tighten the nuts...Sort of like a stud.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldIf the back side of that skid steer is 1/2 plate,  I would just drill and tap.. I think you would be fine.  I have seen rear weights on tracked front end loaders done that way... Shouldn't be a problem.
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldAlternatively, You could drill holes through the back and insert a long bolt from the inside and tack weld the head to the plate so that the bolt threads are sticking out the back...All you have to do is slide the weights on and tighten the nuts...Sort of like a stud.
Reply:Originally Posted by Magnetic MechanicI thought they used calcium chloride in tires?
Reply:Originally Posted by GLwelderI have heard of CC.  Never used it though.  I would hate to try to mount a filled tire.  I have to wrestle those little tires to get them back on even just filled w/air.
Reply:Can you post a pic of the weights?Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldCan you post a pic of the weights?
Reply:Here's a couple of pictures of the weights and what I plan to do.  I went to the scrap yard today and found what I thought is a good solution; Using 10"x7" channel? as the box.  I plan to seal one end and make a removable plate for the back end to facilitate mounting and loading the weights.  This method will allow me to to place 3 weights on edge and 1 weight on top. Attached Images