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Ladies, Gentlemen (and "not so gentle" men),Let me begin by saying that this thread has nothing to do with welding and I fully expect it to be either moved or even deleted pretty quickly. In any event, I think it is something that is better addressed by someone who is new to the forum than by someone who has been a part of this really, really wonderful (for the most part) forum.I am not a welder. I just got my little mig (read fluxcore) welder via UPS today. In anticipation of the arrival of the welder I monitored several welding websites for a few weeks and read and read and read in anticipation of learning all I could prior to the arrival (and even the purchase) of my welder.You are wondering where I am going with all of this... ok... here we go.I have found that there is a fantastic gold mine of welding information to be found on this website. It probably won't make me be a decent welder, but at least I have the info I need and can only blame my mistakes on myself after reading all of the experts give their input to folks asking questions about the science/art of welding. I must say that I really, really enjoy my time reading the posts on this websites, but...Unfortunately, as expressed by many new members who are taken by surprise when they ask a question, I can list some members who seem to be here only to be cynical and to give negative feedback to even the most innocent question.I know that life is tough. It is tougher for some than it is for others. Some folks can keep negative opinions to themself, whereas, others just have to voice them.That is life, and that is not my problem.My problem is that, even as a "wet behing the ears" noobie, I can tell you by username quite a few members who seem to be here only for negative reasons. Sure, there is a time to express "tough love" when someone wants to delve into a project that involves the potential safety of other persons' lives and do not have the necessary knowledge or experience to do that particular job. That is not what I am talking about.EVERY member should be here to either learn or to mentor others. NO. I am wrong. Every member should be here to do both.If all a member can do is to be negative, why are they here?I am glad I am not a moderator.and...I am proud to be a member of WeldingWeb. I need all the help I can get.Bill
Reply:This is its own little society. You're gonna get negative people and positive people and a mixture of both. It happens.
Reply:Bill I've been on the interweb since the late 80's and I've been a member of many many forums in those years(actually been a channel op on a windows IRC help forum for years) and I have seen the good,the bad,the ugly and the very very ugly side of things. The best thing you can do is take things with a grain of salt and just try to enjoy yourself and learn on this wonderful website. You're gonna get all side of things no matter where you go whether it's real life or on the interwebs.Drink a Guinness Draught....Millermatic 140Do you still rememberDecember's foggy freeze --when the ice thatclings on to your beard isscreaming agony.
Reply:I know you guys are absolutely 100% correct. This website is merely another slice of life, but it still makes me sick to my stomach. I was just reading some older threads and I saw a post by one of the guys I have in mind and it was nothing but negative.These folks need some Lexapro or Valiums or something. Folks like this are why this type of drug is being marketed.I am trying to be nice, but this is ridiculous.I could NEVER be a moderator.BillLast edited by Bill S.; 09-01-2009 at 09:50 PM.
Reply:This newb agrees with the other newb.I really enjoy looking at the pictures and simple projects the amateurs post, such as JCwelding. But im sure he and others like him wont be posting much after the grilling they got.
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.I could NEVER be a moderator.
Reply:For a fun look at some of the arch types that you run into on forums, check out http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/-- fredLincoln 180C MIG
Reply:Originally Posted by fredfFor a fun look at some of the arch types that you run into on forums, check out http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/
Reply:You guys with all of those welders make me sick (envious?). Plasma cutters, migs, tigs, buzz boxes, big grinders, etc. ad nauseum. You just don't know when you have it made. Heck, I don't even have a shop... I work in my driveway. Well... I had a shop, but the old woman (my wonderful wife, and she is) uses it for storage now. I have no clue what all is out there covered up with whatever... you name it. It might as well be a big trash can.Wow... I feel better now.Bill
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.I know you guys are absolutely 100% correct. This website is merely another slice of life, but it still makes me sick to my stomach. I was just reading some older threads and I saw a post by one of the guys I have in mind and it was nothing but negative.These folks need some Lexapro or Valiums or something. Folks like this are why this type of drug is being marketed.I am trying to be nice, but this is ridiculous.I could NEVER be a moderator.Bill
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.You guys with all of those welders make me sick (envious?). Plasma cutters, migs, tigs, buzz boxes, big grinders, etc. ad nauseum. You just don't know when you have it made. Heck, I don't even have a shop... I work in my driveway. Well... I had a shop, but the old woman (my wonderful wife, and she is) uses it for storage now. I have no clue what all is out there covered up with whatever... you name it. It might as well be a big trash can.Wow... I feel better now.Bill
Reply:Hi welcome.I'm a less experienced weldor. If you ask a question as a newbie you will get REALLY good replies. If you post answers/ suggestions all hell will break out.There are many many levels of experience on the board. I you overstep your level of competence the wrath of the welding gods will come down on you.As a new reader you don't know who they are. There ARE welding GODS. Listen to them not the guys that they are attacking. The pretenders are just that.There is a Forum culture and you have to get used to it. Don't be intimidated. Be your self.
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmIt's a real neat system. Apparently if you put the stuff out on the curb on a monday morning by 8am, a special truck will come by and pick it up. All you have to do is pay a small monthy fee and they will store your stuff forever.
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Reply:Bill S. I am also a newbie. When I started lurking here, I had the same feelings you expressed in your first thread. I was reluctant to ask too many questions( I did ask a few stupid ones), for fear of being ridiculed, but that fear also made me do my homework and research certain topics before I asked for someone's help. I now fully agree with Rojodiablo's response to you. Most of the info you get here is valuable. The few times bad info is put out, it doesn't take long before the real pros set that person straight. I think you will enjoy the forum, just keep an open mind and stay loose. BTW, I wouldn't have the patience to be a moderator either. Nctox, Stickmate LX 235AC/160DC HH210
Reply:If I were a moderator I am afraid that I would be prone to overreaction. I would ask the negativists to as least give positive input and reinforcement a try once in a while! If that didn't work, I would begin to wonder if the website really, really needs this type of member.'nuff said...Bill
Reply:When a thread starts going south I just stop clicking on itSome members I always check their posts...can't think of any members I won't check if it interest me.If the BS starts it's as good as locked.
Reply:Originally Posted by RojodiabloWe have yet to find internet quaaludes to turn some of them down a couple notches.... but we try!!!What you will find is that many here are actually very helpful, if not short and very to the point. Some are sarchastic to a fault (Who the hell am I to cast stones??!!!) So what we do is simple: We roll with the punches. A couple guys get wound up, and sometimes we have to ask them to bring it down a notch. You'll get used to us, and soon enough you can see through the curt answers and find the info you are looking for. Some on here are just super nice all around, some have a couple battle scars on them, and that's just how they are. Weldors are generally hard people. They do some nasty work; it's not all glamour like Jesse James or Fornier. Some of it is just plain nasty work. And it hardens people. What we don't want to do is homoginize the place. There is no such thing as sterile welding...all we can do is a little 'backpurge' every now and then!
Reply:We're roughnecks... suck it up and get used to it I guess. Spend 10 mins in any welding shop or construction site and this forum will seem tame.This is actually a really friendly forum. At least the arguments tend to stay in the realm of welding instead and dont get personal.
Reply:Funny.I don't remember anyone asking BILL S to be a moderator when he joined.Ironic how all these "everybody needs to be nice" threads are started by the new guys who don't know squat. Then you get the typical newbie followup, "Yea man, well said, my feelings exactly, etc, etc".As Rojo so accurately stated, you need a mix of seasoned old timers (even though they may appear rough around the edges) to go with the newbie's. If you didn't have them, you wouldn't believe the amount of BS that would be tossed around (as gospel). These guys still haven't figured it out that, just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true.Where most of the oldtimers have the shortest fuse is with the guys who ask for(almost demand) answers (many of which are in their owners manual) without putting forth any effort on their own part. In most cases the oldtimers have the answers because they put forth the time and effort to learn them. They're willing to help but you need to meet them halfway.Respect is a two way street. No effort on your part equals no effort on my part. In fact, it might even earn you a sarcastic response. (that really doesn't take much effort)If this response offends you, maybe welding's not the hobby for you. I suspose gardening or playing checkers would be somewhat less confrontational.There's quite a few experienced guys on here who somehow seem to be able to be gracious most of the time. There's probably an equal number of experienced guys who learned the trade via the school of hard knocks and didn't ever get around to learning tact. They just call it like they see it, no holds barred. If you wish to avoid them because they're not "nice guys", that's your choice. Chances are they'll learn very little from you, but you, on the other hand have a lot to learn from them.Dang,Just noticed. How's that for the 800th post. (Didn't even call anyone a dumbazz)Last edited by SundownIII; 09-02-2009 at 08:33 PM.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.Ladies, Gentlemen (and "not so gentle" men),Let me begin by saying that this thread has nothing to do with welding and I fully expect it to be either moved or even deleted pretty quickly. In any event, I think it is something that is better addressed by someone who is new to the forum than by someone who has been a part of this really, really wonderful (for the most part) forum.I am not a welder. I just got my little mig (read fluxcore) welder via UPS today. In anticipation of the arrival of the welder I monitored several welding websites for a few weeks and read and read and read in anticipation of learning all I could prior to the arrival (and even the purchase) of my welder.You are wondering where I am going with all of this... ok... here we go.I have found that there is a fantastic gold mine of welding information to be found on this website. It probably won't make me be a decent welder, but at least I have the info I need and can only blame my mistakes on myself after reading all of the experts give their input to folks asking questions about the science/art of welding. I must say that I really, really enjoy my time reading the posts on this websites, but...Unfortunately, as expressed by many new members who are taken by surprise when they ask a question, I can list some members who seem to be here only to be cynical and to give negative feedback to even the most innocent question.I know that life is tough. It is tougher for some than it is for others. Some folks can keep negative opinions to themself, whereas, others just have to voice them.That is life, and that is not my problem.My problem is that, even as a "wet behing the ears" noobie, I can tell you by username quite a few members who seem to be here only for negative reasons. Sure, there is a time to express "tough love" when someone wants to delve into a project that involves the potential safety of other persons' lives and do not have the necessary knowledge or experience to do that particular job. That is not what I am talking about.EVERY member should be here to either learn or to mentor others. NO. I am wrong. Every member should be here to do both.If all a member can do is to be negative, why are they here?I am glad I am not a moderator.and...I am proud to be a member of WeldingWeb. I need all the help I can get.Bill
Reply:Originally Posted by William McCormick JrI work on tuff job sites all the time. And guys will say the darnedest things to you. But if you give them some slack often you find out they thought you were someone else, or meant something else. If not, and the fellow is really truly looking to take you with him into the dark underworld, the slack you cut him or her, will hang them faster. Ha-ha. Sincerely, William McCormick
Reply:Fact is, 99% of the info is out there, if you care to look.NO problem answering questions, if a guy comes on, uses somewhat correct terminology, has half a head on him.BUT,,,, when you get some guy,,,, "I just bought a new (whatever),,,, How do I plug it in????? Once I plug it in, what do I do next???? "I have a 80 amp chink wirefeed, I want to weld 3/4" plate with this. Critical welds. Can I preheat with my wife's hairdrier???? The other thing is arrogance. Either from the original questioners, You OWE me an answer,,,, or conversly,,,, or from some of the answerers ,,,,,,You GOT the answer, the king has spoken. If the "king" is a stupid idiot, would and should you not be thankful, that others pointed this out???Last edited by mark8310; 09-02-2009 at 10:41 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by mark8310Fact is, 99% of the info is out there, if you care to look.NO problem answering questions, if a guy comes on, uses somewhat correct terminology, has half a head on him.BUT,,,, when you get some guy,,,, "I just bought a new (whatever),,,, How do I plug it in????? Once I plug it in, what do I do next???? "I have a 80 amp chink wirefeed, I want to weld 3/4" plate with this. Critical welds. Can I preheat with my wife's hairdrier???? The other thing is arrogance. Either from the original questioners, You OWE me an answer,,,, or conversly,,,, or from some of the answerers ,,,,,,You GOT the answer, the king has spoken. If the "king" is a stupid idiot, would and should you not be thankful, that others pointed this out???
Reply:I find alot of stuff on here hilarious. Example(pre heating with your wife's hair dryer.) "LOL"I've been welding and fitting for 30 years.I have alot of experience in different fields but,I did see a few outragious remarks comments, and questions?I'm still interested in learning from people experienced in other processes that I never experienced.I respect any person that takes his personel time to show me something new.Two words: respect,disrespectfull.Years back, I learned alot from this one certain person. He was really ruff around the edges. He was a real butt hole. But getting to know him in time, he was a very dedicated hard working guy that would help you with anything. What ever job came to him he would jump into it assholes and elbows. He was a determined individual, but he would sure let people know what he thought of them if they %&#@!* up.Come to find out years later , I heard he was abused as a kid and was mentally unstable. He was instiutualized after cracking up!Like someone said! Take it with a grain of salt.Good luck with your new welding venture.THE OLDER I GET! THE SMARTER MY DAD WAS!Thermal Arc 185 inverter Tig welderABITIG 26 tig torchLotus foot pedalLincoln 225 stick welderClark 185SG Mig spoolgunwelderVictor torch/regulatorsHF36" shear,bender,roller.Originally Posted by Bill S.I absolutely agree with you 100% Mark. After I quit driving a truck, I went to college and got a teaching degree. I was in my 40's and could not believe how the professors were having to "spoon feed" the students who were supposed to be young adults. I did a stint as a lab assistant in the computer lab and the questions the students asked me would absolutely drive me up the wall. I would tell them to look on their textbook and they could find the answer there... it would do them more good if they learned this way and next time they might even look in the book before asking and find the answer themselves. I would sometimes show them the page in their book where the answer was, but even that was not enough for some. I think that is the way some people have always gotten through life and they have been able to get away with it.Absolutely unbelievable!Bill
Reply:One thing that bothers me is abbreviations of words used in cell phone texting is starting to show up in what people write/ type in other media forms. To me this is a another form of laziness which is going to be part of the downfall of our country. I think too many today want someone else to do the hard work in life. In some tasks there's just no easy way to do it. I've posted pics of some projects on here and recieved some criticisms along w/ the praise. I just acept my little "a$$whuppin's" and learn from what I think is constructive criticism and slough off what I consider jealousy or wanting to beliitle someone else's work. Just my thoughts, MikeLast edited by mla2ofus; 09-03-2009 at 08:51 AM.Ol' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIFunny.I don't remember anyone asking BILL S to be a moderator when he joined.Ironic how all these "everybody needs to be nice" threads are started by the new guys who don't know squat. Then you get the typical newbie followup, "Yea man, well said, my feelings exactly, etc, etc".As Rojo so accurately stated, you need a mix of seasoned old timers (even though they may appear rough around the edges) to go with the newbie's. If you didn't have them, you wouldn't believe the amount of BS that would be tossed around (as gospel). These guys still haven't figured it out that, just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true.Where most of the oldtimers have the shortest fuse is with the guys who ask for(almost demand) answers (many of which are in their owners manual) without putting forth any effort on their own part. In most cases the oldtimers have the answers because they put forth the time and effort to learn them. They're willing to help but you need to meet them halfway.Respect is a two way street. No effort on your part equals no effort on my part. In fact, it might even earn you a sarcastic response. (that really doesn't take much effort)If this response offends you, maybe welding's not the hobby for you. I suspose gardening or playing checkers would be somewhat less confrontational.There's quite a few experienced guys on here who somehow seem to be able to be gracious most of the time. There's probably an equal number of experienced guys who learned the trade via the school of hard knocks and didn't ever get around to learning tact. They just call it like they see it, no holds barred. If you wish to avoid them because they're not "nice guys", that's your choice. Chances are they'll learn very little from you, but you, on the other hand have a lot to learn from them.Dang,Just noticed. How's that for the 800th post. (Didn't even call anyone a dumbazz)
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusOne thing that bothers me is abbreviations of words used in cell phone texting is starting to show up in what people write/ type in other media forms. To me this is a another form of laziness which is going to be part of the downfall of our country. I think too many today want someone else to do the hard work in life. In some tasks there's just no easy way to do it. I've posted pics of some projects on here and recieved some criticisms along w/ the praise. I just acept my little "a$$whuppin's" and learn from what I think is constructive criticism and slough off what I consider jealousy or wanting to beliitle someone else's work. Just my thoughts, Mike
Reply:I have posted this idea on a couple of other boards and I would like some input here.I have been on some other boards where they limit your activities until a certain quota had been met. For instance on one you could not use the PM feature until you had completed 50 posts. Not sure if I totally agreed with that but that IS what that was on that particular board.What I propose is:A prominent "sticky" explaining how to use the search option is one of the first things that they see.When a person signs up for a board they are restricted from making a post until they perform a certain set number of searches.The searches will start to get them used to the board and how to use it. This will also cause them to start to research the questions that are on their mind when they joined the board.After they spend the time with those searches they will know how to form questions, what information should be included and better search for what they seek. After the set number of searches are performed their ability to post will kick in.I see this as a win win situation.Now blow some holes in this.Charlie
Reply:I agree, Charlie. I'm a member on a boating forum and you see the same basic question asked in at least 6 different threads every day. Stack o dimes, I wasn't referring to the substitutions for cuss words on here. Being an ol' retired crusher hand, I can still have a verrry colorful vocabulary in the proper social setting. I prefer to use the substitutions on here myself in case a lil' mr. or miss is looking over dads shoulder. I'm talking about people out in the real world who put these text abbreviations in personal correspondence and places where the public does business. MikeOl' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I am a Moderator on another, also somewhat International, board; I see that the 'foreigners' often write better English then our residents, particularly the young ones. When sloppiness gets badly out of hand, I can request a rewriting of a bad post, under threat of removal. I usually just answer questions and give technical advise, as mostly goes on here, but do referee squabbles, and have locked a few threads when participants don't know when to stop flinging the same ideas they can't back up, or worse.
Reply:I really do not see the big deal, this is one of the better forum's.You can't stop people asking stupid question's or offering advice that is wrong, you just have to wade through it and make your own decision. So yes people get a bit "gruff"When I first joined I thought I may be able to help some people, but the more post's that I read the more I realized that a lot do not have any common sense, which is a very dangerous thing in my line of work.So I do not offer much unless I believe that they are capable of performing a simple task.Poster's say this and that is wrong with their welder and "fix it for me".Or "I have been lurking here for a while and......". They still have not learnt anything!!!! No wonder they sometimes get an answer that may be a bit over the top.I speak my mind when I think it is warranted, which I have been reported to the power's that be by some of the "girls" in here who would be better off joining a knitting forum. So just chill out and get a laugh or learn something or do not read post's that you may be offended by.Cheers
Reply:Well, just for chips and giggles, I have to respond to this.I started to "get learned" in the art and craft of welding in 1970, by my dad and my grandpa. I was 11 yrs old being taught by 2 most excellent welders. (stick only for you young uns). I was taught the right way to weld. They taught me a lot about heat distortion, pre heat, post heat, Hardening and annealing metals, stress points, etc etc. These guys did not learn on the web how to weld or by looking at pictures. They learned as did I, the "old fashioned way" apprenticeship,. hands on instruction, plain ole trial and error, and by just talking to people. You, the person, as a welder, earn the respect if you deserve it, by your actions and completed work. Going out and buying a 200.00 mig machine and getting good at laying beads, does NOT constitute being a welder, let alone a fabricator.I now have roughly 36 years in this craft in one way shape or form.40 counting my playing around while in the USAF I am always willing to share what I know. As are 95% of the long timers out there. Why? because that's how we learned this craft. By talking to people that new more about a certain procedure than we did. And vice versus, sharing what we know. I don't believe that a inexperienced welder should be a mod, I don't respect "wanna be" welders that think they know it all or are to lazy to do some preliminary studying before asking very basic questions. What ever happened to reading a book? reading the instruction manual that comes with that 200.00 welder. I do respect people that "wanna be" a welder and put forth the initiative to learn some basic nomenclature and then start asking questions. At least that shows me they are using common sense to get started in a trade that absolutely requires common sense. 1st and foremost,,, A bad weld can KILL !!!!! Let me exercise some common sense and evaluate my skill level. What happens if my work fails? What are potential consequences? I have a cheap under powered mig and I want to modify my trailer, or I build a hitch and I place welds in the wrong place or direction or with not enough penetration. BUT the guys on welding web said it looked ok. Sorry your honor my trailer crashed into that mini van full of kids. This is one of the things I don't like about this site I almost forgot the original post, my diatribe is leading to this. I did my time, I did my apprenticeships, I took my welding tests. My 1st 6g I almost failed because of the nervous sweat dripping in my helmet. Been there, done that !! If some one is willing to work at it, any old timer or more experienced welder is going to help. But I don't want to waste my down time trying to help people that want to gain experience in welding by sitting at a keyboard. Guys that have been there just don't have the patience to tell some one 2-- 3-- 4 times what they are doing wrong. ( especially typing it ) Let me tell you, from my experience and observations, there are 4 -5 guys on here that are some of the best I have ever seen. And some of these guys don't want to listen to them. They don't know how lucky they are. to have access to them at their finger tips. And that pizzes me off also. That's my 02 worth. I would rather watch PA and 6010 argue politics. And I like Mark Ball, cause he is a nurse like my wife!!!Lincoln Ranger 8 Lincoln 175 Drill pressLincoln 225 mig Plasma 8 ft brake 52" jump shear
Reply:Guys and Gals,This will probably be my last post on this thread... I have gained a lot of respect for all of you "old hands" and really do enjoy looking at your work and hearing what you guys have to say, even though I will admit that a lot of it goes right over my head. Heck, I can't even lay a decent bead yet, but I am determined to learn at least how to do the simplest and smallest types of welding projects before I leave this good old earth.When I drove a truck cross country I was always gone and never had time to learn how to weld. Now, as a 60-year-old with a pacemaker, I have the time (I think) and the desire to do this thing if my heart holds out. I am down to 18% heart functionality but my pacemaker/defibrillator is turned to the maximum "wide open" setting and modern science will (hopefully) give me time to build a small welding table and to partially restore my rusty old 1979 Plymouth Trail Duster. You guys and gals are my heroes and I want you to know that. I look forward to reading about more of your work and trying to apply what I can to my trials and tribulations. As bad (poor) a welder as I am, I still enjoy the hell out of it... especially the grinding (ha-ha). Thanks a million,Bill
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.I absolutely agree with you 100% Mark. After I quit driving a truck, I went to college and got a teaching degree. I was in my 40's and could not believe how the professors were having to "spoon feed" the students who were supposed to be young adults. I did a stint as a lab assistant in the computer lab and the questions the students asked me would absolutely drive me up the wall. I would tell them to look on their textbook and they could find the answer there... it would do them more good if they learned this way and next time they might even look in the book before asking and find the answer themselves. I would sometimes show them the page in their book where the answer was, but even that was not enough for some. I think that is the way some people have always gotten through life and they have been able to get away with it.Absolutely unbelievable!Bill
Reply:Guys Could ya keep the noise down im trying to meditate and Bill s ill miss ya buddy cause welding and pacemakers are an extremely bad mix.You better consult your cardiologist before welding.FelonLast edited by Felonyass Monk; 09-06-2009 at 11:33 AM.Caution lurker lives here" hmmm That is serious,pass the ganja and pick up a 24 of MGD"
Reply:Originally Posted by Felonyass MonkGuys Could ya keep the noise down im trying to meditate and Bill s ill miss ya buddy cause welding and pacemakers are an extremely bad mix.You better consult your cardiologist before welding.Felon
Reply:About the pacemaker thing, I had nothing but O/A for 16 years (no 220v in the old house) and it served me well. 9-11-2001......We Will Never ForgetRetired desk jockey. Hobby weldor with a little training. Craftsman O/A---Flat, Vert, Ovhd, Horz. Miller Syncrowave 250
Reply:What RoJo said !!! That's a good idea Charlie !!!Some things never changeHi Bob Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT
Reply:Originally Posted by Felonyass MonkGuys Could ya keep the noise down im trying to meditate and Bill s ill miss ya buddy cause welding and pacemakers are an extremely bad mix.You better consult your cardiologist before welding.Felon
Reply:Where ya been Olddad? Bob is gone.
Reply:How are ya daddy, I simply got tired of the whining crap...took a break. I haven't changed so it probably won't be long before it starts again.Who's running the joint now ?? Originally Posted by daddyWhere ya been Olddad? Bob is gone.
Reply:Near as I can tell, the inmates are running the asylum.
Reply:magnetic fields tend to shut off the pacemaker. As long as you aren't TIG welding with High Frequency, standard stick welding should be fine. Same applies for DC MIG. No high frequency, limited exposure to the power, you should be ok. If in doubt, check with your cardiologist to be sure though.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:I gotta tell ya: I was a little skeptical about posting my cry for help (see Inherited Craftsman) Ya don't actually have to see it cuz it won't be of interest to most of ya. I was extremely pleased when Craig in Denver, OAdoctor, farmersamm, makoman1860, and rlitman took the time and trouble to figure out what I need and delivered the info. Due to their efforts, knowledge, and kindness, I will get lots of use out of that little torch. Made me a true believer! Thanks guys!(Retired) Professional firefighter, amateur everything else I try to do...Oh yeah: Go Big Red! (You know: one of the 12 members of the Big 10 cuz we left the 10 members of the Big 12...)
Reply:OP,This is a great forum and all the help a person could ask for if you take the time to engage the brain before the mouth (fingers). I have made many poorly thought out posts, and yet I am still around, cause I am hungry for knowledge and at my age I am not to worried about how the knowledge comes. It still amazes me at what lengths some will go to prove to how little they know, and when they open their mouth all doubt is removed!---Some on this site are not only skilled welders but equally as good at articulating their skill in the form of written instruction.Enjoy the journey of learning a great skill set! TimA rich man is not the one who has the most but instead one who needs theleast. Retired IUEC local 19AK Bush pilot, Chaplain CMA Chapt 26victor torchesMiller110v migDynasty 200dx (new in Dec 08)Hypertherm PM-45MM-252 (new 2/09)
Reply:Originally Posted by MarkBall2magnetic fields tend to shut off the pacemaker. As long as you aren't TIG welding with High Frequency, standard stick welding should be fine. Same applies for DC MIG. No high frequency, limited exposure to the power, you should be ok. If in doubt, check with your cardiologist to be sure though.
Reply:Originally Posted by Bill S.The other day when I was making splatters and burning holes in sheet metal (trying to lay a bead) I was right up against the welder (Clarke 95 fluxcore) and didn't have any problems. My pacemaker couldn't have been more than a couple of feet from the welder and I felt nothing. Whew! Wonder if I would be ok using an old Lincoln 225 buzz box? Wouldn't mind trying a few 6011's and 7018's.Bill
Reply:Wow Sandy... sounds like a compass would be useless inside of your shop... probably have the needle spinning in circles. Oh well... I don't imagine you need a compass to find your way around your shop anyway, do you?Yes, I'll have to keep an eye on those cables and cords... and hoses.Thanks |
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