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Im gonna start by adding Im not a pro welder but Ive built alot of things and like nice welds. I mainly weld with a 7018 rod usually 1/8th sometimes smaller. I like Mckay and Esab and Hobart. Every now and again I can get some bulk bargains on old rods or damaged containers of them. About 3 months ago I was in a surplus store that had some Metal Worker Rods in 5 and 10 pound boxes. I bought them for 2.75 bucks each. They weld great flat but horizontal and verticle are suck city. I had a friend thats a certified structural welder and he said it was just me. I gave hime a box and and he came back telling I was right lol. The rods look good and are made in the US. I still got a couple pounds I use them when we build up plow tools or build up backhoe teeth. or as filler in flat bevel joints on loader rakes and such. I also had some rods from Cebora welding that I hated.
Reply:Hobart, McKay and Lincoln work great. Radnor (Airgas house brand) really suck.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Atom Arc or Excalibur!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by mjedudeAtom Arc or Excalibur!!!
Reply:i have gotten a ton of ****ty 7018 from mckay. but at the same time the best SS stick rod i have used is some 308 from mckay with the greenish flux.
Reply:Airgas's house brand radnor electrodes blow chunks.I rarely do any stick welding anymore. so I when i do buy rod i can be very choosy as to what i buy so i buy LincolnVantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Atom Arc or Excalibur!!! Sorry, I was trying to express that I favor the above rods!
Reply:I am TRUE BLUE but i really do like Excalibur, nice puddle luv it for overhead.MM 251MM 135Lincoln Pro cut 55Bobcat 250Miller Thunderbolt ac/dcolder ac forneyJackson nexgen 3n13-Smith OP setups97 Dodge dieselMakita chopsawJet swivel head bandsawlincoln tig 300/30030a spoolgunpuma port. gas air comp.
Reply:Hate princess auto house rods,like fleetweld 35 and 37 and excaliber all lincoln rods.Felonps i buy the small packs cause around my place they tend to sit around awhileCaution lurker lives here" hmmm That is serious,pass the ganja and pick up a 24 of MGD"
Reply:Originally Posted by ksweldermanI am TRUE BLUE but i really do like Excalibur, nice puddle luv it for overhead.
Reply:i was liking the hobart 7018 i was getting..then got a box that sucked..looked close and foun d the good stuff was made in taiwan, the garbage said made in use...
Reply:oops meant usa
Reply:it was too cheap. 5 yrs old and i gave 300 bucks for it. pretty cheap for a 1 inch cap. plasmaMM 251MM 135Lincoln Pro cut 55Bobcat 250Miller Thunderbolt ac/dcolder ac forneyJackson nexgen 3n13-Smith OP setups97 Dodge dieselMakita chopsawJet swivel head bandsawlincoln tig 300/30030a spoolgunpuma port. gas air comp.
Reply:Originally Posted by ksweldermanit was too cheap. 5 yrs old and i gave 300 bucks for it. pretty cheap for a 1 inch cap. plasma
Reply:plasma was cheap yeah. consumables, not at all !MM 251MM 135Lincoln Pro cut 55Bobcat 250Miller Thunderbolt ac/dcolder ac forneyJackson nexgen 3n13-Smith OP setups97 Dodge dieselMakita chopsawJet swivel head bandsawlincoln tig 300/30030a spoolgunpuma port. gas air comp.
Reply:Hobart for most all wire, Lincoln 5P+ for 6010, McKay Triple7, I hate airco and Lincoln 7018 including the excalibur.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingHobart for most all wire, Lincoln 5P+ for 6010, McKay Triple7, I hate airco and Lincoln 7018 including the excalibur.
Reply:TSC carries a good line of Hobarts that are Taiwan. I keep 3 5pound cans of them around. The local welding supply is in a parts house. They leave the boxes open and the closed boxes are way too expensive also the enclosed boxes can be damaged on the flux. I was diggin through the pile and found some Radnors I picked up at a salvage auction. I looked like i had been drinkin or ought to have been drinking. Also on the list for bad rods it Lectro Shield, Mighty arc, esob chinese knock off that a friend came across. no two rods i nthe box weld the same. they are right with the SOB on the end.
Reply:Originally Posted by smawgmawWhy do yo hate airco and excalibur? Curious.
Reply:Hey Taylor?I wonder if you didn't accidentaly get ahold of some 7024 when you bought the surplus Metal Worker rod. Are the rods or box marked?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:As I get older and my eyesight goes I am developing a hatred for all kinds of electrodes and wires, They just don't make them like they used to! LOL Something that was told to me was that many rods are resistant to moisture and do well without storage in an oven. The trick they use is to coat the low hydrogen flux with a thin layer of cellulose based flux. I have no idea if it is true.
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingPorosity on re strike, and 9 times out of 10 you go to strike an arc and all the flux falls off.
Reply:I don't own a stick welder, and after reading this, glad I don't. When I go to the LWS, I can ask for .035 wire and 75/25 gas, and move on. Mig is so simple, a monkey can do it. After reading this, I would never learn all the different rod applications, then have to learn what brand rod is good or bad.
Reply:Nothing to it its all learned over time. Ive been welding since I was 14 and you still learn something new every day. And it does have some advantages of Mig. I dont keep a large roll on my Millermatic 35 because I dont like to use it. and alot of time I have to weld on heavy machinery and some repairs have to be in rusty metat that not cleanable. In school we only had one mig and I just did everything with a stick welder. I do wished I was better with my up hills in mig but ill have to work on that later.
Reply:I cant stand the "Inweld" brand that our local independant LWS carries. They always order my 5p+ and Lincoln 7018 in for me..............................."Look Good Doing It"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Depends on what welder I am using. My commander welds best with a lincoln rod. Lincoln welder and lincoln rod. Who would have guess, lol. But my Miller xmt and old miller engine drive won't run lincoln rod worth a crap. But ran esab atom arc great. Just weird.Lincoln 300 Vantage 2008300 Commander 1999SA250 1999SA200 1968Miller Syncrowave 200XMT350MPA/S-52E/xr-15Xtreme 12vs Millermatic 251 w/30A Millermatic 251 Dialarc 250 Hypertherm 1250 GEKA & Bantom Ironwokers
Reply:I did buy some cheap no name HF 6013 rod one time, never again.Here are rods I do like very much:6010-Lincoln fleetweld 5p7018-Air Liquid blue shield or ESAB OK 55Any Certainium electrodes.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:You know, this is about as useless of a thread, I've ever seen on any welding message board. The vast majority of welders, are simply handed rod, along with a weld proceedure, and "do it". "Oh????,,,,, you don't like brand xyz rod?????" " You like abc rod better??????" "Well,,,,, let's just do this,,,, you see that line over there? "That's the soup kitchen, you should go get on the end right now, so you can get soup for tomorrow. "Meanwhile, I'll do a little calling around, find somebody that's not so picky about his rod. ""
Reply:Originally Posted by jsfabYou know, this is about as useless of a thread, I've ever seen on any welding message board. The vast majority of welders, are simply handed rod, along with a weld proceedure, and "do it". "Oh????,,,,, you don't like brand xyz rod?????" " You like abc rod better??????" "Well,,,,, let's just do this,,,, you see that line over there? "That's the soup kitchen, you should go get on the end right now, so you can get soup for tomorrow. "Meanwhile, I'll do a little calling around, find somebody that's not so picky about his rod. ""
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingPorosity on re strike, and 9 times out of 10 you go to strike an arc and all the flux falls off.
Reply:jsfab said "You know, this is about as useless of a thread, I've ever seen on any welding message board."Did you mean to say "this thread is useless to me as I am not interested in the content and therefore please change the subject to something that does interest me because as you know its all about me"Just curious ehFelonCaution lurker lives here" hmmm That is serious,pass the ganja and pick up a 24 of MGD"
Reply:Originally Posted by Felonyass Monkjsfab said "You know, this is about as useless of a thread, I've ever seen on any welding message board."Did you mean to say "this thread is useless to me as I am not interested in the content and therefore please change the subject to something that does interest me because as you know its all about me"Just curious ehFelon
Reply:I think what Felon meant to say was,"Take off, eh... you hoser!"Work HARDER, not smarter! ------------------------ Miller Bobcat 250Millermatic 251Lincoln Precision TIG 185Hypertherm PM 600Hobart 135 HandlerOxweld 400 FlameMaster
Reply:leadhead 1911 said "I think what Felon meant to say was,"Take off, eh... you hoser!""Now THATS funny ehFelonCaution lurker lives here" hmmm That is serious,pass the ganja and pick up a 24 of MGD"
Reply:hate anything 6011- 6010
Reply:I was trying to make a point. Fact is, most people in the business have no choice in the rod they use. You just have to "learn to like it."
Reply:Jsfab said "i was just trying to make a point"Fair enough and you do have a valid point and youre right when you say a lot of jobs tell you do it or else.However there are a lot of self employed welders on this message board and it would seem a fair topic for discussion.Its just that when you said "You know, this is about as useless of a thread, I've ever seen on any welding message board."It seemed a tad nasty but sh*t happens and hey have a nice day eh.FelonCaution lurker lives here" hmmm That is serious,pass the ganja and pick up a 24 of MGD"
Reply:Originally Posted by jsfabI was trying to make a point. Fact is, most people in the business have no choice in the rod they use. You just have to "learn to like it."
Reply:Originally Posted by jsfabI was trying to make a point. Fact is, most people in the business have no choice in the rod they use. You just have to "learn to like it."
Reply:After getting yelled at by JSFAB i immediately regretted my purchase and went out and bought 50 Lbs of harbor freight rod that had been left out in the rain. Not i can bitch and whine to the boss (ME) about what a cheep SOB he is (ME) and why the rods are unacceptable for AWS D1.1 standards. when their just 6013 rods.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
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Reply:90% of the welding I do is with 7018, and so far I refuse to run Radnor, Hobart from TSC, Firepower. Right now I prefer Excaliburs, but I have no problem with Murex, Or Hobart Bros or the atom arc. What few 6010 I run I tend to go with Lincoln 5p+. I have yet to see anyone who can actually run the radnor 6010 without cussing like a sailor.I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:Originally Posted by DualieAfter getting yelled at by JSFAB i immediately regretted my purchase and went out and bought 50 Lbs of harbor freight rod that had been left out in the rain. Not i can bitch and whine to the boss (ME) about what a cheep SOB he is (ME) and why the rods are unacceptable for AWS D1.1 standards. when their just 6013 rods.
Reply:We had a big pipe job, and ordered the usuall 5P+ and Excalabur, no dice on the Excalabur, even the old diehard Lincoln guys refused to use it. Ordered up a batch of Hobart418 7018 all problems solved and the old guys were as happy as old weldors can be.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:One of the more common rods in OZ are Cigweld Rods by Thermadyne.Stoody and Murex are also common.Who makes these Cigweld/Thermadyne rods? Is it Thermadyne, Murex or someone else?In Cigwelds welding consumables guide they have Murex and Stoody listed as i think they are the disributer in OZ.
Reply:This is what I use for x-ray CS pipe:Lincoln 5P (6010) I do not care for the 5P+ personally, but some of my guys like it. I get it for them no problem. They pass x-ray (B31.3) and that makes me happy.Lincoln 7018 (does not matter to me if it is/isnot excalibur)Rods I don't care for: Hobart Pipemaster ( worthless for root pass) Hobart 7018 (have had pinhole problems in the past)Stainless Steel: Avesta rod/wire (FCAW 100% CO2, or Argon C02 75-25) |
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