Hobart 187 ($670) or Lincoln 180 ($450)?

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I'm about to pick up my first mig welder. From all the reading i've been doing most people seem to prefer the hobart 187 over the Lincoln Pro Mig 180.I found a brand new lincoln pro mig 180 on craigslist for $450. I can also get the hobart 187 for $670 shipped. I really want the hobart, just not sure if the added cost is worth it. Which one would you go with?
Reply:I think the Lincoln would be the better of the two at that price. The Hobart's are decent units but I think the Lincoln's are better.Miller DVI2Lincoln Precision Tig 225Thermodynamics Cutmaster 38Everything else needed.
Reply:if new $670 for the 187 is a good price
Reply:Why pay 50% for the same capability?I'd go for the Lincoln at that price of $450.Rick V
Reply:And another thing... that $220 saved could go toward a used DC stick welder or something else of equal merit.  Something to think about.Rick V
Reply:i was looking on ebay seen the lincoln 180 HD wasas low as $305 new and the 180T where over $700two things if it sounds to good to be true and you get what you pay for
Reply:I just pulled the trigger on the hobart 187. After talking with Lincoln, they told me since i was buying private party that they would base the warranty from the date it was manufactured. The guy off of craigslist said he bought it a year ago and it just sat in the box. That means I would only have a year and a half of warranty at best.I paid $670 with free 2 day shipping from amazon.
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Reply:Geez, I would have bought the Lincoln and saved the $200.   A warranty is worth less than that.
Reply:I would have bought the Lincon regardless of how much warranty is left on it.  Warranty is not worth the extra money.  And Hobart unit is not that much better (if any) to justify the extra money.A few of my toys !LinuxMintManjaroMiller Roughneck 2E Lincoln WeldPak 100HTP MTS 160 Chicago Electric 80amp Inverter   Victor O/A
Reply:Shoulda got the Lincoln 180...........  Bummer.  To add, the best 180 is Lincoln's "180c" model.  Not the "T" model.   ....IMHO.Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller  625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita  Baileigh NRA Life Member