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i built a blacksmith forge out of a car rim it works great, but i want to know if any one has any ideas for a new design? ow yeah its hobbie sized so please ont huge ones.
Reply:how you plannaing on heating it wood ? charcol gas?ChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:My dad had a real forge.  I loved it. Not a better way to weld an exhaust manifold.  All kinds of cast too.  We also did some "welding" with it like a black smith.  Wish I had it.  Nice tool.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Awesome video...I saw a bunch awhile back on you tube...I liked this one toohttp://youtube.com/watch?v=k_LA_R4ifYk
Reply:David, I have a question for you, maybe you know the answer.... On old blacksmith forged/ hammered parts, are all the dimples from the hammering process, or are some of them from impurities/ the coke ash put on the steel? When I was a kid, I had a neighbor who would make actual Damascus steel barrels for antique/ art shotguns. He even let us shoot a few of them. He used a weak black powder, if he would have used modern shot, he would have blown up the barrels. I remember he would hammer and roll them forever, and then forever and a day more!! But I think I remember his stuff coming out super smooth. But all the horseshoes and stuff I have seen from hand made blacksmithing have the hammered look to them. Is it something that some smiths' will tune out of the steel?And then, after so much work...... you have it in your hand, and you look over to your side...... and the runner has run off. Leaving you holding the prize, wondering when the runner will return.
Reply:I'm not david, but it's hammer marks that you are seeing. A good smith with good control will minimize hammer marks, a poor smith, well, the piece will look like lumpy cheese.Smithy pictures: http://welderstephan.googlepages.com/gallery1222Mine's probably a bit large for what you want though, at 12"x14", you need to know good fire tending skills to keep a half-size fire in it. The best thing I can tell you is to build your forge to suit your needs and most importantly your fuel.Owner of Bushwacker Mobile WeldingPictures
Reply:Nice stuff coalsmoke.  My dad sold the forge and I miss it.  He still has a 75 lb anvil with a metal base made for it.  People don't seem to understand how nice a good anvil is.  You can do a lot with one if its just there any time for your use.We did weld some stuff just by heating it red and hammering them together.  It works and holds.  My dads forge was a little bigger than a round webber grill with a crank for the blower.  We used coal or lump charcoal.  Sometimes we made a barrel of lump charcoal from hard wood.  Lotsa work, but it was great to cook on.Now I use a propane weed burner or rosebud for heat.We also had a wood stove to heat the garage.  So heat a manifold or pump housing red, weld it with ni rod and throw the whole thing in the wood stove with a good fire going.  Next morning fish it out of the ashes.  Preheat from the forge, post heat from the wood stove and cool slowly in the wood stove.DavidLast edited by David R; 09-29-2007 at 05:44 AM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:my car wheel forge will burn wood and/or coal it works well its easy to make all so, you can see it at www.backyardmetalcasting.com its in my friend other projects.MY Shop Gear::1: a rock and string2: glass bottle and gas3: old remote and batteries4: metal taped together5: ripped shoe6: smash anphibious water craft
Reply:Rojodiabloit depends, some of the marks you see are hammer marks, but alot of it is when the scale gets hammered into to the steel and then is brushed away later.  once you see the difference you can spot something that has been intentionally hammered for effect, versus something that has been truly forged.  the faux forged look is, in my opinion, ugly as sin.  you can minimize both by hammer control and brushing or scraping the scale off before you start hammering. i always leave the scale on, it gives the final piece depth and texture, of course if you paint over it, it ruins all that.   i'll look for pictures for comparison.
Reply:Originally Posted by rusty rippleRojodiabloit depends, some of the marks you see are hammer marks, but alot of it is when the scale gets hammered into to the steel and then is brushed away later.  once you see the difference you can spot something that has been intentionally hammered for effect, versus something that has been truly forged.  the faux forged look is, in my opinion, ugly as sin.  you can minimize both by hammer control and brushing or scraping the scale off before you start hammering. i always leave the scale on, it gives the final piece depth and texture, of course if you paint over it, it ruins all that.   i'll look for pictures for comparison.
Reply:Thats a great video.  If you look closely enough you can see the shoes smoking on the guy who is standing on the ring on the left side.  Those guys were tough!!!   I thought it was hot in Texas when welding that must have been brutal.Nice share.MichaelMillermatic 25115" Rockwell Drill Press10" Logan Lathe5hp - 2-stage 80 Gallon CompressorHome Made Sand / Soda Blaster
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Reply:If the piece was poorly handled in fire then surface will be pitted and rough from excessive scaling. The hammer marks have a distinct look ,like dimples as you say.  A forged piece is hammered heavily at high heat, often with the edge of the hammer to rough out the shape.  This leaves deep impressions.  Following that the pieces is worked at successively lower heats and lighter hammering ending with just red hot and using the face of the hammer which leaves a fairly smooth surface.  It can be finished very smooth with a flatter tool.  There are different styles in forging, some go for a very finished look that hides the hammer work and some prefer to leave the hammer marks feeling that it adds to the piece.  It depends a lot on what the piece itself is to be used for.  The French generally went for a very smooth finish while the Germans preferred to leave the hammer marks showing.355# Hay Budden3# Hofi HammerPropane ForgeIdealarc TIG 300/300AllStates Oxy Propane torchSmith Little Torch
Reply:Originally Posted by maddog The French generally went for a very smooth finish while the Germans preferred to leave the hammer marks showing.