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Hi guys. Do any of you use ant-spatter gel to protect mig gun tips and nozzles? Is it worth it and does it work? Thanks.
Reply:Ive got the anti splatter stuff in the aerosol can made by lincoln.  It seems to work.  It says you can also spray it on the object you are welding and that seems to help also.  I havent tried the gel stuff though.
Reply:I use WD-40.  Spray the nozzle real good, and also the work....and weld right through it....works pretty good !I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:I've got a little tub of the gel. You let the nozzle get hot and dip it it the plastic jar. It works pretty good. The best thing is to get a 1/2 copper pipe cleaning brush and you can run that in the nozzle and twist and its clean. DavidDavid
Reply:A jar of the gell will last a long time IF used properly, and seems to be a better protection system than the spray.The tip must be hot when dipped into the gel, and must be allowed to drip off all excess gel if you don't want a contaminated weld pool.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:No, but I have some (gel) just in case I have to weld  with straight CO2Last edited by Planet X; 01-25-2004 at 02:03 AM."after a long day of doing nothing...its gooood to kick back" Pumbaa
Reply:Well, be sure and let us know if you get that good Xman. Co2 is a hell of a lot cheaper than C25Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:Originally posted by Franz Well, be sure and let us know if you get that good Xman.
Reply:Xman, there is a strong rumor goin around you use the gel for hair wax, would you care to confirm or deny that?Antispatter either gel or spray really comes into play more in verticle mode than it does in horizontal, and is a definite MUST in overhead.   Accumulated crud inside the nozzle isn't a problem till it builds to the point it effects gas flow.  A good old fashioned jackknife will generally scrape out accumulated crud, and a wirewheel takes care of the outside if that's important.New guys seem to have more problems with spatter blowing back because they run the gun too close to the weld.Gel is also handy when you want to smear some along the weld path to make cleanup easy, and as Xman can tell you, it makes a great butchcut wax and also works on moustaches.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:Say Franz, what ever happened to Ollie?  Did the fame & success cause a tragic drug habit or was it wallowing self-pity after your show 'Cuckla Fran & Ollie' got the axe? Last edited by Planet X; 01-25-2004 at 02:31 PM."after a long day of doing nothing...its gooood to kick back" Pumbaa
Reply:Well, me and shemp went and started the weldin works, and Mo & Larry bought a McDonald's franchise, Ollie, last I heard was drivin a Mr Softee truck summers and drinkin winters.You still haven't confirmed or denied that rumor.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:Franz, I ran across a guy who said he dips  the nozzle of his mig torch into Vaseline and it works as well as the anti-spatter gels.  Of course, its a lot cheaper, too.  However, I haven't seen any of his work.  I guess he'll try KY Jelly next.Seriously, I hadn't heard of using petroleum jelly before and don't know how much contamination it might carry to the weld.  Any comment?BTW, it was 22F here this morning.  We'd appreciate it if you would suck all that cold NY and Canuk air back up your way!  Ran across the attached sign In Mississippi. Attached Images
Reply:OP I never used vaselene on my MIG gun, but I do cook up equal parts of vaselene and neatsfoot oil and use that on my boots.  It is a lot cheaper than the fancy store waterproofing, and it works well.  Of course I do have to cook it when the wife is out of town.I've seen that sign before, and thought about having my buddy withthe sign shop make me one, so I could sharpen hell out of the edges, and see how many stupud busturds cut themselves to find out.  Of course I would eliminate the line about the bridge being out.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:I use it on the metal around the weld area on the finer projectsIt really cuts down on paint prepCBT
Reply:the nozzle gel works good, its a preventive matience type thing to do, the cleaner the tip  is the easier it is for your wire to come out, and as far as the WD40 i would stay away from that when welding, its FLAMABLE, side note lets not start the mudslinging so soon
Reply:The nozzle dip stuff works great just be sure to scrape things clean before use or the dingle berries will hook onto the old crud.   A friend a few years ago turned me onto some anti splatter spray that was alot safer and smelled better than the 550(?) stuff.... It was Pam(the stuff you cook with) and it worked just as good as the chemical counterpart.<Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.
Reply:arcdawg....I didn't think that wd-40 was a good choice, butin my defense, I was told to use it by the guy at thewelding store that sold me my equipment.   He said weldorssometimes even use "Pam"...(the stuff girlfriend spraysthe pans with).   To be honest....i'm wondering if thewhole "anti-spatter spray, gel...or whatever"  is even necessary ?Maybe it's just a bunch of hoopla !I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:Thanks brainfarth......so I'm not the only one who's heardthe rumor about "Pam" ?I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:hey marcko i wasnt pointing any fingers, we used to  clean our c.r.s. at work with denatured alchol and once a week someone would start a rag fire in the shop........... your welding supplier is just that, a salesman who hasnt a clue, flamable liquids have no place next to a welding station
Reply:I dip cone into gel and like Franz said will last a long time, you dip when cone is hot, if you dip when cone is somewhat cold you'll have a big snot inside of cone of jel.Splatter spray is used for the work piece to help spatter in not sticking to project. Steel, you can use it or not I don't use it, BUT with stainless steel I always use it. Those bb's will stick like nothing you ever seen before to stainless.J P Streets Welding LLC
Reply:Anybody bothered to read the fine print on the spray can to see what the propellant gas is?  Last one I looked at said PROPANE.That oughta get Jack's attention.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:I'm with Jerry and Franz. I do a quick dip on a hot NozzleI bet that propane thing will get Jacks attention. It could be exciting to spray on hot metal I've heard of pam being used, but its easier just to dip
Reply:does anti spater gel or spray effect the weld ? like contaminate it or does it just burn up? and can it be used on more than just steel? and is it just for mig welding.... i ve had good luck with the gel on c.r.s. but never tried the spray,i was thinks about  clean up when using 6011 rod ?
Reply:Clean-up after using 6011 is a chipping hammer & a wire brush.I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:The only thing I have ever had problems with concering a spray for dingleberries(on the metal itself) is that if you spray a splatter spray on metal at a joint(like a flat 90-overlap) and weld only part of it, it give the remainder of the liquid a chance to seep into the crack overnight.  The next day you might have problems with porosity when you first start welding.. It is a good idea to burn the chemical out of the weld area before starting a weld.Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.