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This is all I got done today. Next is to tack the middle section to the mounts and trim the mounts to match the middle section. I need to find some grade 8 bolts for the frame mounts and beef up the mounting points on the frame.Iwill probably cut out the lower middle section of the bumper and I wil weld in a piece of 2" square tube from side to side to strengthen it up a bit sort of like a cross member.
Reply:Looks good, no pics of the welds?DavidReal world weldin. When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Today I added a cross member to the cradle and tacked together the mounts and cradle. I still need to add two more cross pieces to the cradle to add strength to the unit. I will be adding some diamond shaped steel pieces to the mount where it passes the frame...enjoySorry I forgot to get pics of the welds. Next time.
Reply:Any more progress pics?
Reply:Looks good,The Cops in Australia would crucify you if they say thatA good guess is better than a bad measurement
Reply:Originally Posted by lish189Any more progress pics?
Reply:Originally Posted by BrettLooks good,The Cops in Australia would crucify you if they say that
Reply:Personally, I would try and get a few more bolts into each side on those frame mounts.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:how thick is that plate? It seems like it would be easy to bend if your winching from the side.Have we all gone mad?
Reply:Originally Posted by sn0border88how thick is that plate? It seems like it would be easy to bend if your winching from the side.
Reply:How can I brace the mount so that it won't bend sideways on a side pull?? Is what I have there now enough?? It is hard to see in the last pic but I have a piece of 1" .100 wall welded in place down low at the bottom of the mount near the back. in front of the rad.
Reply:Looks much better now. I see with those cross braces and the "unitized" construction. Nice job.It looked like it would bend here.DavidLast edited by David R; 10-24-2007 at 06:51 AM.Real world weldin. When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by StickbugHow can I brace the mount so that it won't bend sideways on a side pull?? Is what I have there now enough??
Reply:great job looks good Originally Posted by StickbugWhy is that?? I thought you down under folk were into big cow catchers??
Reply:I would try for a piece of 1.5x1/4 wall box tube welded on the bottom of both sides running the full length of the mount. I think thats your best bet now.Have we all gone mad?
Reply:Originally Posted by sn0border88I would try for a piece of 1.5x1/4 wall box tube welded on the bottom of both sides running the full length of the mount. I think thats your best bet now.
Reply:I wouldnt trust 1/4 angle.If you were to have a good tug, I even doubt the box tube i suggested would do it.Have we all gone mad?
Reply:Originally Posted by sn0border88I wouldnt trust 1/4 angle.If you were to have a good tug, I even doubt the box tube i suggested would do it.
Reply:I have experience seeing winches pull things, and seeing things break because they were pulled on.A 8000-10000 k winch putting a side load on a piece of 3/13 plate and 1/4 angle isnt something I would trust, what happens if he uses a snatch block, he's lookin at double those forces.Have we all gone mad?
Reply:Originally Posted by sn0border88I have experience seeing winches pull things, and seeing things break because they were pulled on.A 8000-10000 k winch putting a side load on a piece of 3/13 plate and 1/4 angle isnt something I would trust, what happens if he uses a snatch block, he's lookin at double those forces.
Reply:Originally Posted by wannabe_welderMy best advice to you would be to not use the angle if you have that much experience.
Reply:Well winching can see easily 4 or 5 times the vehicles weight, obviously depending on how its used. Thats not how id have done it but then again theres always doubters with anything and everything, no matter how good you are! Also a good way to strength something like this is to go back to the engine crossmember if youve got one. Try and and go from the back corner of the winch mount to the opposite corner cross member so you make an "x"Last edited by fordman; 10-26-2007 at 06:01 PM.
Reply:You can weld some square tube outside too just where David circled...just making sure it is welded after and before the critical area. (see pic, weld shown in purple). That would increment amazingly the mount strenght. Depending on the thickness and size that would definitively put an end to your issue. haha looks like you can always easily find somewhere to rest your mount. how does the durango works offroading? Attached ImagesMy Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3 4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:Well I am not happy with how this thing is turning out. I have come up with another idea. What if I modified this to fit my Dodge Dakota?? This bumper came off a full size truck. Where would be the best place to narrow it?? I'm thinking where the outside bends are. Attached Images
Reply:i would take some of the c-channel off of each side of the winch mount plate and re-weld it where you need it. i would also box in the c-channel, just to give it a bit more strength. if it were me, i'd rather have it way too strong, than not quite strong enough. plus, you never know what you may face on the trail untill it's too late.later,andyHeres one I made the other night weld it like you own it
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayHeres one I made the other night
Reply:Originally Posted by aczellerthe way that you welded and ground the bottom piece makes it look like a solid hunk of steel. hehehehe. maybe that'll give a bit more front end traction?later,Andy
Reply:What ever the end result, what have you planned for suspension boost? Winch assemblies are notoriously heavy.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:NO NEED FOR HEAVIER SUSPENSION....THESE VEHICLES ARE BUILT FOR THEMever hear of of snow plows?Much heavier....these frames are rated from factory for these winches.CHECK THESE OUT weld it like you own it
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayNO NEED FOR HEAVIER SUSPENSION....THESE VEHICLES ARE BUILT FOR THEM |
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