140 amps = 5/16 in a single pass?

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I saw Snap-on's 140 amp "muscle mig" has a 100% duty cycle at 140 amps and claims it'll do 5/16th in a single pass. Anyone know if this is true?
Reply:doesn't sound possible to meStangnetShop Full Of Stuff. Joey
Reply:Under the idea conditions,, ideal setup, ideal electric circuit and ideal operator it will do it. If you need to ask about it you are probably going to have trouble.  It wont do 140 amps any better than anyone elses 140a.   Are you sure you read the duty cycle right?www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I own alot of Snap-on tools but I wouldn't waste my money on there welders or plasma cutters, they get them from someone else and rebadge them.I bought a Miller Spectrum 375 for $1300, Snap-on has the exact same machine just red and says Snap-on for $2995. I garantee they do the same with there welders.Take a look:http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_d...re&dir=catalogLast edited by thenewguy4; 05-31-2004 at 10:51 AM.MM135 on 75%-25%Miller Dialarc 250AMP AC/DC TIGSpectrum 375 Victor torchesOptrel Satelite
Reply:stay away from the snap off crap.... go with lincoln or miller or break out the vasoline !!!dawg
Reply:Are you sure you read the duty cycle right?
Reply:Originally posted by deleteall , so...  I'm not actually thinking of buying one, but no one else even claims 1/4 inch in a single pass w/a 115 machine even under ideal conditions, right?
Reply:You can only get so much current from a wall socket, I wonder if they spec a 30A circuit for it?  To run continious they would have to, more than likely they are just hyping it.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:Snap On Tools favored by Lesbians around the world!Snappy never made a welder, and never will.  They've peddled a lot of Century crap with their label for years, and will continue to sell crap to suckers because they can pay a dollar down and a dollar a week.When it quits working, they can't and won't fix it, but you still get to pay for the crap.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:I'd stick with the "big 3"....Lincoln, Miller & Hobart !Like sberry said:  "You can only get so much juice out of a wall socket"....and it takes a certain amount of "juice" to do any job correctly.I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:You know, i don t know what has happened to these wirefeed machines since the late 1980's when I first started out to now. Depending on the joint design and position of the weld, 1/4" steel use to require in the neighborhood 160 to 200 amps. Nowadays, welding manufactures are selling these small little 120 volt units and they're making these insane claims about the machine's potential.  I guess there sales would drop quite a bit though if they actually told the truth and stated that the unit was going to produce its soundest welds on 1/8" and thinner material. Now, before i start getting a whole bunch of feed back from all theses small 120 volt machinhe owners i will state that I have ran several of the 120 volt units and yes they will produce welds that will hold 3/16" material together, however, not they are not capable of producing a sound weld for critical applications. This is the flaw in the manufactures advertising no were do they state that these smaller units should be used on non-critical welds on material thicker then an 1/8"
Reply:....And here's my 2 cents:...........There's a big difference between sticking 2 pieces of metal together, and welding them to the highest standard !   I will admit that when I first started, I was happy to just run "pretty" beads down a joint.   That's NOT welding !   A properly welded joint WILL NOT COME APART !Being the happy owner of (among other things) an HH135,  I'll say this:   115 volts may be enough for 1/8", . . . but I wouldn't bet my life on a joint that's thicker than that !I'll be the LAST one to let you down !
Reply:AS far as mig goes- only in some salesmans wet dreams. Keep in mind I consider the short circuit process only suitable for.120 wall and thinner if the part is something other than 'yard' art.  And since the short circuit process maxes out around 200-210 amps . To my mind if you dont have more amps available out of your mig (cv) power source- chose another process such as stick or get at least a PM255 sized machine. Or one is doomed to part failure or fume glazed lungs from current dense flux cored wire."after a long day of doing nothing...its gooood to kick back" Pumbaa
Reply:You know, i don t know what has happened to these wirefeed machines since the late 1980's when I first started out to now. Depending on the joint design and position of the weld, 1/4" steel use to require in the neighborhood 160 to 200 amps. Nowadays, welding manufactures are selling these small little 120 volt units and they're making these insane claims about the machine's potential. I guess there sales would drop quite a bit though if they actually told the truth and stated that the unit was going to produce its soundest welds on 1/8" and thinner material. Now, before i start getting a whole bunch of feed back from all these small 120 volt machine owners, i will state that I have ran several of the 120 volt units and yes they will produce welds that will hold 3/16" material together, however, they are not capable of producing a sound weld for critical applications. This is the flaw in the manufactures advertising, no were do they state that these smaller units shouldn't be used for critical welds on material over an 1/8" thick.Sorry about the repost, but i didn t catch some of my errors in my first post until after  the darn 15 minute time limit.Last edited by Dan; 06-01-2004 at 03:01 AM.
Reply:So I called.  It's actually made by CK Systematics.  CK said it's a misprint and that they "only" claim 1/4 inch in a single pass.  Power/duty cycle also based on a 30 amp dedicated circuit.
Reply:Yup, could have almost bet good money they would have called for 30A circuit,,,,,,, so,, if you have to run a circuit anyway it might as well be 240 and go to a HH180.www.urkafarms.com