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As i'm sure you will find out quickly, I don't know much about welding. I have welded a decent amount of things (never had a weld fail yet). Anyway, I'm putting together a frame on a trailer house axle for a wood splitter I'm going to build. I acquired some 2x2 square tubing that is 11 gauge. I only have a old Lincoln AC Welder. My question is, what is the best type of rod/amp to weld 11 gauge tubing (mostly 90 degree angles, some flat). I can go buy whatever rod I need, but right now I have some 6011, 6013, and 7018 on hand. Thanks
Reply:The more relevant question is what size rod you have. 11 ga is more or less 1/8 inch, so best to use a rod size smaller than 1/8 inch, presumably 3/32 size. You don't need the extra penetration of 6011 with 1/8 inch plate, just leave a little gap to help with penetration. So I say 6013 or 7018. The bad thing about the 7018 is that it has probably accumulated moisture, which is detrimental to 7018, so I would grab that 6013, assuming you had it in 3/32 size. But all in all, the size is more important than which type of rod you use. I imagine a really good welder could weld 1/8 inch plate with 1/8 inch rod, but probably not the best idea for the occasional welder, you would just start blowing holes.I will let the real experts give you a better answer.RichardSculptures in copper and other metalshttp://www.fergusonsculpture.comSyncrowave 200 Millermatic 211Readywelder spoolgunHypertherm 600 plasma cutterThermal Arc GMS300 Victor OA torchHomemade Blacksmith propane forge
Reply:I would have to double check, but I think the 6013 is 3/32. I know the 7018 is 1/8 and less than 2 weeks old. I thought the 1/8 might be a little big. I don't have a problem buying more rod for this job if I need to (right tool for the right job). I just wanted to make sure I don't screw this up since I haven't welded with steel this thin before.
Reply:I'd go with 3/32 6013, or maybe 7018... But 1/8 7018 would be too thick... I'm sure that it could be done, but it would be better and easier to go with the 3/32...[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Also be sure you're buying 7018AC rod which has a different flux composition. The flux on regular 7018 will not burn properly on an AC machine causing the rod to burn back and the arc to go out.
Reply:Originally Posted by markfugaAlso be sure you're buying 7018AC rod which has a different flux composition. The flux on regular 7018 will not burn properly on an AC machine causing the rod to burn back and the arc to go out.
Reply:Say, I bought some 3/32 7018AC and ran some test beads and had little success. As I mentioned, I have welded a time or two. I just can't seem to work this rod (80 -100 amps). Went back to run some test beads with 1/8 7018AC and no problems. Would I have any success welding the 11 gauge 2x2 with 1/8 on 90 amps?
Reply:What are the downfalls of using 1/8 instead of 3/32 7018 on this 11 gauge on a lower amp?Last edited by styles038; 02-26-2011 at 11:16 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by styles038Say, I bought some 3/32 7018AC and ran some test beads and had little success. As I mentioned, I have welded a time or two. I just can't seem to work this rod (80 -100 amps). Went back to run some test beads with 1/8 7018AC and no problems. Would I have any success welding the 11 gauge 2x2 with 1/8 on 90 amps?
Reply:I cant keep the arc. Either sticks or loses arc. I cleaned and re-clamped many times. Tried rod after rod. Didn't matter what I would do. Is it possible the case of rod is bad (moisture)? Like i said, I just bought it. I'm sure it sounds like I don't know what i'm doing. I don't know what else to tell you guys???
Reply:Try the 6013; should be easier to maintain an arc.
Reply:Yes, 6013 is easier to strike and has a more forgiving arc. You should be able to develop a feel for running a bead with it easier.You are plugged into 240V are you not?Gordie -- "I believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Reply:Originally Posted by NiteskyYes, 6013 is easier to strike and has a more forgiving arc. You should be able to develop a feel for running a bead with it easier.You are plugged into 240V are you not? |
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