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here are some cage doors i made for one of the local coal mines. these are on the elevator going down into the portal. they are 67 3/4 inches long by 42 5/8 inch wide. they wanted them made out of alum so it would be easier removing them for wide equipment. Attached Images
Reply:Good pics, nice gates, now can we see the welds and the hinges? DavidReal world weldin. When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Another common sense good job.Do you do most of your work above ground, or do you have to go down in the hole once in a while? It would scare the daylights outta me.Most of what I do doesn't affect peoples' safety. Aside from the odd towbar, and hitch for stuff I run on the highway. I'm pretty lucky that I don't have that responsability."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I've read that those tram elevators go down so fast that your breakfast winds up around your tonsils."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:DAVIDR sorry no pics of welds and hinges. got done with em at 10:00 last nite. was gonna take some today of the welds but when i went to take the pictures the bell started ringing. which means the elevator is going down. before that we had the elevator locked out while we were hanging the gates. so i kinda had to move pretty fast. used the old hinges that were on the bent up gates.FARMERSAMM yeah it moves pretty fast after the first couple of feet. this one is 400 feet down. haven't worked underground yet but it's in the plans here pretty quickly. they have some shuttle car work coming up. kinda looking forward to it. this is a long wall mine. the face which is where they are mining is about 2 miles from the elevator shaft.
Reply:My father, when he was young, and I was old enough to understand, talked about his experience in the service during WWII.He worked maintenance on the B-17's in England with the 401st Bomb Group.Some of the guys in his outfit were coal miners from West Virginia, and Pennsylvania. He remembered that these guys were not people that you wanted to #### with. They didn't shout, puff up their chests, and all that other BS before gettin' into a fight. They hit you, and hit you hard. No words. You wound up layin' on your back lookin' at the ceiling.Tough work makes tough guys."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:yeah i agree. miners are a different breed of people. it takes a special or (demented) type of person to work in a mine day in and day out. most of the ones i know are pretty good people.
Reply:patrickp, I understand. I have shipped a lot of jobs still hot, or they had "baked on enamel finish"DavidReal world weldin. When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammMy father, when he was young, and I was old enough to understand, talked about his experience in the service during WWII.He worked maintenance on the B-17's in England with the 401st Bomb Group.Some of the guys in his outfit were coal miners from West Virginia, and Pennsylvania. He remembered that these guys were not people that you wanted to #### with. They didn't shout, puff up their chests, and all that other BS before gettin' into a fight. They hit you, and hit you hard. No words. You wound up layin' on your back lookin' at the ceiling.Tough work makes tough guys.
Reply:hate to hear that. coal mining here in the states pays pretty good. plus the spin off from the mines helps boost the local economy. sounds like someone didn't do their homework. but on the other hand kinda hard to predict what's gonna happen when you get down there. a lot of factors come into play.
Reply:It is sad,that it didn't workout. They knew the geological problems were going to be bad as they predicted the ground around here would drop over 36" because of the mining, and these mines were very deep at over 900yds+.However they didn't realise how bad it in fact was. In West Yorkshire the subsidence is very bad in some places, not due to this complex but the many pits in the area.
Reply:were they long wall mining? yeah good money just tough to get to.
Reply:saw this and just had to chime in...they are some nice gates, but look kinda minimal for a service cage. I work in an underground mine and put miles on in a cage, our cages have doors that cover right from the floor to about 8' high or so they are 1/4 aluminum plate, with a small "window" of a bunch of 1/2 holes drilled through at eye level. at 1800ft a minute you want a good door. 400ft doesnt seem that deep to me, but I work in an underground shop that is 6000ft down, and I go deeper than that on the ramp every day. that looks like a pretty big cage compared to the ones I ride on. is that how all the men get down to work, or is there a ramp?underground work isnt for everyone, but I have spent 10 hours a day down there for a while now, and its not unusual here like in many mining towns, my dad and his dad worked underground. I dont mind it at all, I am a mechanic and part time welder. one nice thing about underground is that everyone who is down there is there to work, so the BS is at a minimum. not alot of people walking around getting in your business looking over your shoulder. people are right about miners being tough, not the guy you want to tangle with. anyway just wanted to give an insight into the underground world, it pays the bills, and it gets in your blood.. its a different breed of worker down herehave a good one
Reply:yeah that's how they get to work on that elevator. they wanted the doors light because they have to remove them at least twice a day to get equipment on and off. they had some heavy duty steel doors that where the same size. i took the measurements off of them and built the new ones the same size. yeah 6000 ft is down there.
Reply:Originally Posted by redlaker1saw this and just had to chime in...they are some nice gates, but look kinda minimal for a service cage. I work in an underground mine and put miles on in a cage, our cages have doors that cover right from the floor to about 8' high or so they are 1/4 aluminum plate, with a small "window" of a bunch of 1/2 holes drilled through at eye level. at 1800ft a minute you want a good door. 400ft doesnt seem that deep to me, but I work in an underground shop that is 6000ft down, and I go deeper than that on the ramp every day. that looks like a pretty big cage compared to the ones I ride on. is that how all the men get down to work, or is there a ramp?underground work isnt for everyone, but I have spent 10 hours a day down there for a while now, and its not unusual here like in many mining towns, my dad and his dad worked underground. I dont mind it at all, I am a mechanic and part time welder. one nice thing about underground is that everyone who is down there is there to work, so the BS is at a minimum. not alot of people walking around getting in your business looking over your shoulder. people are right about miners being tough, not the guy you want to tangle with. anyway just wanted to give an insight into the underground world, it pays the bills, and it gets in your blood.. its a different breed of worker down herehave a good one
Reply:1800' a minute, but it still feels fast! have to keep equalizing so your head doesnt implodethey rarely take the doors off our cage, all the equipment gets slung underneath because the cage is pretty small. it would be nice to have a big cage, would save us assembling/disassembling the equipment so much. its starting to get pretty hot down around the 6500ft level. hope we dont go tooo much deeper
Reply:I wouldn't mind experiencing a 'negative' mile+ sometime. What kind of temperature are we talking?MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:I mean 95+ F in the middle of winter. which seems hot to me, but I see you are from texas, so I guess you would be wearing a sweater in those kind of temps.in the summer it is hotter, and the humidity is ridiculous. we have to put floor-dry on the floor of the shop all summer because it is usually too slippery to walk onDuane I see you have a syncrowave 180, thats what I run at home.. but I got a lincoln mig 180 a while ago and I admit that I have got a bit lazy, just pullin the trigger
Reply:Originally Posted by redlaker1I mean 95+ F in the middle of winter. which seems hot to me, but I see you are from texas, so I guess you would be wearing a sweater in those kind of temps.in the summer it is hotter, and the humidity is ridiculous. we have to put floor-dry on the floor of the shop all summer because it is usually too slippery to walk onDuane I see you have a syncrowave 180, thats what I run at home.. but I got a lincoln mig 180 a while ago and I admit that I have got a bit lazy, just pullin the trigger
Reply:just a lil curious about which and type of mine you work at. if it's coal what system do they use? be pretty cool going down that deep.
Reply:there are some mines that go down to 12,000 feet. one platinum mine is going down to 14,000 feet. talk about a journey to the center of the earth. wow.
Reply:I work in a narrow vein gold mine, there are some pretty deep ones in africa. I think below 8000 feet or so you need air conditioning. the mines in africa are so hot the workers have to spend a week down there just acclimatizing. and there are massive air conditioning units on surface and underground cooling the air coming down. most of the machines would have air conditioned cabs as well.there are base metal and gold mines in canada that are deeper than 10000ftI am not sure I would want to work in a coal mine, here the rock is the hardest in the world and we have pretty good ground support
Reply:I question the safety of the roof on my house during a bad thunderstorm. I don't see how you guys can manage down there. I'd be a basket case."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:[QUOTE=redlaker1;222616]I work in a narrow vein gold mine, there are some pretty deep ones in africa. I think below 8000 feet or so you need air conditioning. the mines in africa are so hot the workers have to spend a week down there just acclimatizing. and there are massive air conditioning units on surface and underground cooling the air coming down. most of the machines would have air conditioned cabs as well.there are base metal and gold mines in canada that are deeper than 10000ftI am not sure I would want to work in a coal mine, here the rock is the hardest in the world and we have pretty good ground support[/QUOTE ]i bet with gold as high as it is they are cracking that whip to get it mined. it's also funny on how expensive mining equipment is. and yeah you don't have to worry about the roof caving in on you. around here the roof changes daily according to the weather and time of year.
Reply:ya things have been full throttle around here for a while now. mining equipment is crazy expensive, and thats if you can get it. with the high demand these days you just go on the waiting list. and the waiting list starts at 1 year.I dont think I will ever be without a job as a mechanic thats for surethe ground is pretty good in most areas around here, but its still underground, every minute you have to be cautious. I have been scared pretty bad in a few instances, but I keep coming back. somebody has to do it. as long as the paycheques dont bouncesurface mines are pretty dangerous too. big equipment running around. i imagine the money is pretty good in a gold mine. good mechanics are worth their weight in gold( no pun).
Reply:working around heavy equipment in any setting has its hazards. you just have to watch yourself and stay safe. the money is alright, puts food on the table. it really is a good time to be in any trade. mechanics, welders, plumbers, electricians, millwrights, etc are going to be in really high demand in the near future.
Reply:Too right it costs alotThe main Gallery (60' High) in the North Selby Project I posted about earlier, was machined by a massive machine I cant remember it's name it looked like a tank with the boring head on the barrel. Anyway it cost over 10million GBP over 20yrs ago at the time around 40mUSD after they had finished with it they just bored it into the rock and left it there |
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