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This is my first real project besides some sheetmetal on my jeep so I thought I would post it up. Not yet complete but will be in the next few days. Here are some pictures of the basic design so far of my welding cart. The front support is 24"H and the middle support is 30"H. The base is 40"L X 15"W The deck that will support the welder will be from the top of the front support to about the 20"H point on the middle support. I am still in the design phase but you can see the basic idea. The rear 10" will be for bottles. The entire structure is made from 1.25" X 1.25" X 1/8" thick angle iron/bed rail basically. The deck for the welder and bottles will be 1/8" plate. Both sections will have added supports on the underside. Here are a few of my corner welds: and a few of the final product after cleaning up the rear corners: Comments and questions are welcome. Feel free to critique my welds. Still fairly new at this and I can always use more input. Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Good work! Welds look good to me. Looks real good cleaned up. Keep posting pics.Lincoln AC/DC 225/125 Stick Linde HDA-300 MillerMatic DVI MIG Miller Dynasty 200DX Hypertherm Powermax 1000
Reply:You're getting there fine. Looks good to me. Putting nice big wheels on it?
Reply:i see that someone else welds on a plywood table top too! the top of mine is almost black. ive got better tables but its always so handy and usually the only table thats empty.
Reply:Going to have large wheels in the back and some sort of beefy caster in the front. Almost all of my welding is done in my driveway. I do not have a garage. That wooden table consists of two saw horses and a sheet of 3/4 ply Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:what sort of welder are you holding on this? also is that the tack after tack method i see on picture 4?looks great anywayhttp://datingsidorsingel.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by cheeseclipwhat sort of welder are you holding on this? also is that the tack after tack method i see on picture 4?looks great anyway
Reply:The tack method is fine on thin sheet, but try practicing your beads on heavier stuff. Say on 12 gauge sheet and up Tack welding is not a real sound weld when used on heavier material. For a beginner looks like you are starting out well. The cart is looking nice Keep coming with the pics. ~JacksonI'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:good looking project nice work for your first project Creative metal Creative metal Facebook
Reply:Thanx for the comments guys. I will have more pics this afternoon. Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:I am not always Mr. Safety, but I do not leave my grinder face down. Other than that it looks good. I weld on an OSB table, it is an old desk that I have screwed OSB to, it works fine for me.BCN
Reply:Originally Posted by bnemerovI am not always Mr. Safety, but I do not leave my grinder face down. Other than that it looks good. I weld on an OSB table, it is an old desk that I have screwed OSB to, it works fine for me.BCN
Reply:Keep going...Keep going....And stop all the chatter!! The addiction has begun! Your grinding skills are right there also!...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Great job, did the joints properly, grinding looks great. You have only started my man.Various GrindersVictor Journeyman torch200cf Acet. 250cf oxygenLincoln 175 plus/alpha2 gunLincoln v205t tigLincoln 350mpEsab 650 plasmaWhen you can get up in the morning, Its a good day.Live each day like its your last.
Reply:Sorry guys, no new pics tonight. I forgot that I had class tonight. spent the entire evening practicing for my stick and mig 6G? / Over head welding of 3/8 and 1" plates. More tomorrow after my tests.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Just a suggestion, I would seriously look at large inflatable tires if you are not in a workshop. I frequently have to take my welders out of the garage and big wheels are really good on uneven surfaces, nothing upsets you more than your cart tipping over and dropping your welder in the mud.Clive
Reply:I picked up two 11" solid tires from TS and some 4" HD casters for the front.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Originally Posted by bnemerovI am not always Mr. Safety, but I do not leave my grinder face down...
Reply:That is a makita 4.5" grinder and I switch between both flap diskes and carbid wheels. For this I just used some 80 Grit flap diskes to take the paint off of the angle iron then I used 60 grit to clean up the welds.Because I have to weld in my driveway ( you can see how close my neighbors house is) I always have the fire extinguisher close by. Not that I wouldn't anyway if I were in a shop.Last edited by rustywrangler; 05-30-2007 at 12:07 PM.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:TIP for a great portable fire proof welding table a sheet of concrete backer board will do in a pinch only cost a couple bucks .couple saw horses wood support and backer board and your good carts looking good350P 30A spool gun cut master 51 syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:How brittle is it?
Reply:Mac,Concrete-backer-board varies in strength and brittleness, depending on the thickness and the brand/manufacturer.Generally though, if you hit it with a hammer, then it will chip or break. Unless properly supported underneath, you can crack it in bending too. Like across two sawhorses at the ends and put a heavy workpiece in the middle and you'll probably break it in half. Also, the backer-board typically comes in 3x5 sheets.The best general-purpose fire-proof welding table is made of solid metal IMHO. Steel, thick aluminum, big hunk of titanium plate if you want the bling-bling.
Reply:That's what I was thinking, too.
Reply:Well, I was able to get a little more work done this morning. You can see how it will basically be now. I did try to run a few beads instead of tack welding, so let me know what you think. On with the pictures.Here is where I plan to make supports for the decks.Here are the wheels that I chose and where I plan to put them. The front casters will be offset to the sides a little for a wider stance.Here is one of the better weldsI also picked up some 1/2" round stock to bend into tool holders, cord hooks, etc. I got some 3/4 X 3/4 square stock to make the front handle out of. The only thing I am still on the fence about is what to use for the deck. Someone told me 1/4" plate for the top and 1/8" for the bottom. So let me know what you think.Last edited by rustywrangler; 05-31-2007 at 01:02 PM.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:while i agree metal is the best the guy for now is welding on raw wood. for the size piece he has on the saw horses he could get a piece of 1/2 inch concrete board and at least not have to worry about setting fires as he welds its not a metal top you can pound on but its more fire proof than plywood in a pinch350P 30A spool gun cut master 51 syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you offOriginally Posted by umahunterwhile i agree metal is the best the guy for now is welding on raw wood. for the size piece he has on the saw horses he could get a piece of 1/2 inch concrete board and at least not have to worry about setting fires as he welds its not a metal top you can pound on but its more fire proof than plywood in a pinch
Reply:These pics will help give a better idea of how big it isCome try it out and stay a while.
Reply:looking good350P 30A spool gun cut master 51 syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:you wiil scratch those floors you better watch out!!!!fine job on the cart!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by tonycamcoyou wiil scratch those floors you better watch out!!!!fine job on the cart!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by rustywrangler These floors are gonna be the end of me. We are refinishing them in a few weeks. they have the origional finish on them and the house was built in the 30's. Thanx for the positive feedback guys.
Reply:Originally Posted by umahunterman are you in for some fun .quick tip after you finish the floors get a couple yellow onions cut them in half and put them in some pans with water they will absorb the fumes to help it dissipate quicker you'll know there done when they turn a nasty brown
Reply:Here is a question for anyone with a cart. How do you secure the welder to the top of the cart when you are moving it around?Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:If it's riding with a sufficient lip around it, nothing.Otherwise, superglue.
Reply:Duct TapeNOT If the welder has some accessable holes in the bottom, you could bolt to cross pieces or a plate fastened under the welder.John-----------------------------------|Craftsman 230/140 amp AC/DC BuzzboxSynchrowave 250
Reply:Originally Posted by PwrTurtleDuct TapeNOT If the welder has some accessable holes in the bottom, you could bolt to cross pieces or a plate fastened under the welder.
Reply:Originally Posted by umahunterman are you in for some fun .quick tip after you finish the floors get a couple yellow onions cut them in half and put them in some pans with water they will absorb the fumes to help it dissipate quicker you'll know there done when they turn a nasty brown
Reply:Hey, no welding in the house! LOL Its starting to take shape! I think 1/8" is good enough for both top and bottom. That welder isn't too heavy. The pic with one of the better welds looks good, but I think you may be moving too fast. Try slowing down a little and use more side to side motion. I might be wrong as I am a newbie. What do you think guys?Lincoln AC/DC 225/125 Stick Linde HDA-300 MillerMatic DVI MIG Miller Dynasty 200DX Hypertherm Powermax 1000
Reply:I showed the pics to my instructor tonight and he said to slow down a bit and turn up the heat a tad.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Originally Posted by rustywranglerHere is a question for anyone with a cart. How do you secure the welder to the top of the cart when you are moving it around?
Reply:To strap my MM140 down I use a nylon cinch strap works well and easy to remove if I need to get in to the inside compartment.A word of caution (not that you don't already know) to you and your friend- wood and metal shops DO NOT mix well. Sparks from grinders will fly a long long way and smolder in a small pile of sawdust. I speak from 20 years of woodworking turned metal experience .. Not that you don't already know, just a friendly reminder . Housekeeping is the key and keep lumber stored up high and not on the floor. That's a nice size shop 75x25.......... I'm envious. I am still putzing in my 16 x 22 shop... and spilling out on to the patio for most of it.KevMiller 210 and 140 MigsBernard Q-Torches on bothMiller Syncrowave 200Spoolmate 3035 for sale, excellent condtion- PM for detailsThermal Dynamics 38XLShop OutFitters 20/20 Bending SystemLots of other cheap and not so cheap tools Still have LOTS to learn, but got some nice stuff to learn on!
Reply:Originally Posted by DkevdogTo strap my MM140 down I use a nylon cinch strap works well and easy to remove if I need to get in to the inside compartment.A word of caution (not that you don't already know) to you and your friend- wood and metal shops DO NOT mix well. Sparks from grinders will fly a long long way and smolder in a small pile of sawdust. I speak from 20 years of woodworking turned metal experience .. Not that you don't already know, just a friendly reminder . Housekeeping is the key and keep lumber stored up high and not on the floor. That's a nice size shop 75x25.......... I'm envious. I am still putzing in my 16 x 22 shop... and spilling out on to the patio for most of it.Kev
Reply:Quick question to those that have been following. Do you think I need any 45* supports to stiffen the frame or does what I have done look good enough? I will still have 2 crossbars for the top and 4 for the bottom and all will have 1/8" plate as the deck.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Hmm...I'm not sure. It looks pretty sturdy how it is. The frame is like a big cube. If it was going to flex or bend, then it would have to bend in at least four places. I would be concerned if there were four separate legs like a table. Does it feel sturdy?If I was going to put a gusset of any kind, I would attach them from the back slanted horizontal piece down to the back corners. I hope that makes sense.Lincoln AC/DC 225/125 Stick Linde HDA-300 MillerMatic DVI MIG Miller Dynasty 200DX Hypertherm Powermax 1000
Reply:Ok, I did some more work this morning. Pics to follow when my wife gets home with the camara. I decided after everything else I will be doing to it that I did not need any extra supports. I actually got up on top of it and jumped a little to see how sturdy it was. Wow, it didn't even flex. Anyway, pics to follow. Should be done with it soon. Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:I think that it will be better if you already make a "box" for the welder to not moove much...I found the hard way...My way for getting the welder outside includes several bumps, so I wish I boxed it before...probably making one with the learnt stuff...Yours looking sweet thou...as far as wheel location on my cart it was really important cause my tank is heavy... I´d put them as close as you can to the end of the cart for better handling and better tip control... just judging from the pic...Good work!My Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3 4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:Sorry for the long delay in pics on the progress. Found out this week that I will be a dad AGAIN!!!!! So things have a been a little bit hecktic. More to follow by this weekend. I will most likely finish it up Sat. Throw a coat of paint on it and be done. Blue paint of course Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Originally Posted by rustywranglerHere is a question for anyone with a cart. How do you secure the welder to the top of the cart when you are moving it around?
Reply:WELL I finally got to do some more work on my cart and I think the end is near. Here are some pics of the wheels mocked up in the front. They will be bolted to those plates and I will gusset the design on top so the plate does not bend. I also got the back wheel bolts welded on. Now to just figure out how to make the Nuts stay in place. And finally the top deck supports. For now these will hold the welder up but when I can get some more sheet metal I will skin the top deck.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Take the nuts and put a slot in the end with a cutoff wheel. Then tighten the nuts on the cart so the wheels are tight but to not bind. Mark where the slot is on the bolt, drill a hole in the bolt aligned with your mark, and put a cotter pin through the hole. The nut will keep the wheel on, and the cotter pin will keep the nut from turning.Bad ASCII diagram of slot follows (ignore the periods, they are placeholders, the board automatically takes out extra spaces):.__ ___|...U...| <- Nut from side|_____| ..__ __./...||...\|....O....| <- Nut from top.\ _||__/ Nut who wrote this post | VPatrickLast edited by PatrickJ; 06-12-2007 at 01:51 PM.PatrickLincoln 175HD |
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