how do you get ripples in mig welding?

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i sometimes get faint ones but how do i get them?do i work in a small circler motion?thanks -Ryan
Reply:Ryan,  a picture is worth a thousand words....if you can post that would help.  Question is why are you wanting "ripples"??If you're getting good penetration and the welds stack nicely or lay down smooth what difference does it make.   Just curious.
Reply:lots and lots and lots of seat time..practice young man.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by Ryan Bi sometimes get faint ones but how do i get them?do i work in a small circler motion?thanks -Ryan
Reply:Generall speaking, "ripples' come from manipulating the puddle. Welding in circles or other patterns, weaving, whatever you want to call it. Sometimes I do a back step which leaves a ripple but I don't do it for looks, I do it to let the weld size build up.Always looking for another old VW, especially in the southeast.
Reply:i think he wants his MIG weld to look like a TIG weld. you can try an S patern, it makes a nice look. summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Something like this Ryan B?like zap said...practice. Lots of it. I've been welding 10 years to be able to do this. Just keep at it and you'll find a method that works for you as not every technique works for everyone.- Paulhttp://all-a-cart.comWelding Cart Kits and accessories
Reply:damn Paul, thats mig?!
Reply:That is a nice Mig weld.Drivesector Hobart Handler 140Hobart Handler 180Ready Welder 2Hobart Air Force 400Airco Stinger 225Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."OZZY"
Reply:Looks like the spot timer was on. Or the TIG machine snuck up on that bead. If not I comend you on that, the best I can do is as my shop teacher would say is "A roll of dimes".Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Myself personnally, why would you want "ripples" in a MIG weld? MIG welds should have a smooth appearance. If you want ripples try the 6010 method and whip it "A roll of dimes" or use a TIG process.ZTFab nice gusset job there except where you stopped the weld at the end of the gusset, it should have been a start and then end at the crotch of the gusset. Just my .02 from experience with structural weldments. Still, a "pleasing to the eye weld bead".Tennessee Squire Association
Reply:Crater crack.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:I like ripples myself,  depends on what type of project I'm working on.  I use a circular pattern.  I'll post some pics tommorrow.DewayneDixieland WeldingMM350PLincoln 100Some torchesOther misc. tools
Reply:Thanks for all of the compliments...No spot timer, pulsing, or TIG "sneaking up" on it. That is MIG, welded continuously with my Lincoln PowerMIG 200 (which has no feature for spot/stitch/pulse welding).As far as the crater at the end of the gusset, that bumper was removed from the front of the Bronco it was on, the crater was ground down and the weld was continued and wrapped around the corner an inch and a half.I welded the gussets while the bumper was on the car and didn't have room to wrap the weld until it was off to finish the other pieces....and mlmonte, why not have "ripples" in a MIG weld? Personally, I think a "smooth" bead looks like it was done in a production line with no personal signature to it. But having said that, if a smooth bead is your personal signature on your welds, then that is your personal touch to welding, much like my "ripples" are in mine. - Paulhttp://all-a-cart.comWelding Cart Kits and accessories
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFab...and mlmonte, why not have "ripples" in a MIG weld? Personally, I think a "smooth" bead looks like it was done in a production line with no personal signature to it. But having said that, if a smooth bead is your personal signature on your welds, then that is your personal touch to welding, much like my "ripples" are in mine. - Paul
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFabThanks for all of the compliments......and mlmonte, why not have "ripples" in a MIG weld? Personally, I think a "smooth" bead looks like it was done in a production line with no personal signature to it. But having said that, if a smooth bead is your personal signature on your welds, then that is your personal touch to welding, much like my "ripples" are in mine. - Paul
Reply:a signature weld is what keeps a guy i work with from passing his crap off as my work  he can come cloese to making his welds look like my welds, but i know my welds i know what to look for he dont and im not going to tell him how i know ChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:Paul,  nice consistent ripples.  Done as 'pause-move-pause-move-pause-move', right?  Push or pull on the torch movement?Wello, dang that's nice and smooth and clean!  The picture is a little tough to see what is going on, but that's two plates lapped with a fillet joining them, right?  GMAW on steel, or something else?  Any post-weld clean-up done there, or is that how it looked?  No soot, spatter, and I can barely see a HAZ.To each his own, as long as the weld is 'good'.
Reply:Personally I like the "pulsed" look of ZT's mig weld.  It looks like a series of overlapping spot welds, like you can get with pulsed TIG.  I am guessing that it was produced by pausing to deposit a "spot", then rapidy moving forward to the front edge of the spot, then pausing to deposit the next overlapping spot.
Reply:This is a motor mount for a drive we build for a conveyor unit.  Sorry they're blurry.DewayneDixieland WeldingMM350PLincoln 100Some torchesOther misc. tools
Reply:This pic is old. I like ripples in welds too. And I have to agree with you guys...each one has its signature in their welds and as long as the weld is well done it´s nothing more than preference. What I do is a weaving motion...going from the plate to the base of the square tube...again to to the plate then to the tube...MAKING SURE you are melting the "junction" between plate and tube. Attached ImagesMy Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3   4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:I have always weaved back and forth in any type of welding but I thought with MIG you weren't "supposed" to do that.  It is in my nature to do it though and I was wondering what you all thought, if it helps me get a flatter, wider bead (which is what I usually want) is there anything wrong with it?Birken
Reply:Weld beads are a personnal signature, I totally agree with! Ask any QC inspector when all they look at are welds produced by numerous welders on the job site.Production, key word. Beside, with GMAW or FCAW process, the flue gases in a power boiler outlet duct don't care what the beads look like...  as long as it all holds like it's suppose to.Tennessee Squire Association
Reply:Originally Posted by Birken VogtI have always weaved back and forth in any type of welding but I thought with MIG you weren't "supposed" to do that.  It is in my nature to do it though and I was wondering what you all thought, if it helps me get a flatter, wider bead (which is what I usually want) is there anything wrong with it?Birken
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRisePaul,  nice consistent ripples.  Done as 'pause-move-pause-move-pause-move', right?  Push or pull on the torch movement?Wello, dang that's nice and smooth and clean!  The picture is a little tough to see what is going on, but that's two plates lapped with a fillet joining them, right?  GMAW on steel, or something else?  Any post-weld clean-up done there, or is that how it looked?  No soot, spatter, and I can barely see a HAZ.To each his own, as long as the weld is 'good'.Originally Posted by elvergonMMM if I get it right...you´re not suppose to go back and forth...you should go...up and down(from one plate to other, or tube to tube) when having a T type junction...or side to side (same from one plate to other, or from tube to tube)when you got a butt weld....Hope I answer ya question
Reply:Originally Posted by mlmonte...the flue gases in a power boiler outlet duct don't care what the beads look like...  as long as it all holds like it's suppose to.
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRisePaul,  nice consistent ripples.  Done as 'pause-move-pause-move-pause-move', right?  Push or pull on the torch movement?Wello, dang that's nice and smooth and clean!  The picture is a little tough to see what is going on, but that's two plates lapped with a fillet joining them, right?  GMAW on steel, or something else?  Any post-weld clean-up done there, or is that how it looked?  No soot, spatter, and I can barely see a HAZ.To each his own, as long as the weld is 'good'.
Reply:Originally Posted by chopper5a signature weld is what keeps a guy i work with from passing his crap off as my work  he can come cloese to making his welds look like my welds, but i know my welds i know what to look for he dont and im not going to tell him how i know
Reply:Whip like ya riding it dont weave like your hiding from it..!!!!
Reply:Iv'e pulled off the stacked dime bead,The way Iv'e done it is in a "e" motion start your weld at the left side of the e move to right circle back over when you almost meet where you circled back over move to the right and repeat  the motion the result will be a row of stacked "eeeeeeeeeee" s.
Reply:"Ripples in Mig Welding" That's fine for thinner materials, but anybody that weaves or runs back and forth on thicker materials is asking for problems, such as lack of penetration, undercut etc; Cause if you think about it, if you weld then skip forward then back again you are basically putting weld on top of weld, a CWI or QC would definitely have issues with those welds. Just my .02
Reply:i have gotten a prity nice look doing conected circles, probly similer to the e methoud. just explained a little diferent but it looks close and is much like an e realy as you keep it moving forward. as for it being alowed, i did it for aperance and would not do it in a structural situatin. but in that situation they would not be looking for dimes but strangth. i'm guessing he is also looking for spearance not structural but the circles or e's are still a good solid weld, if it was thick i think a root pass would be in order any way. Attached Images summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.