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here's the weld I was trying to describe. I haven't used this technique in a while, I can make it look much better, but this was a quicky.... here it is Attached Images
Reply:that looks like a fillet to me......a nice one too.
Reply:How is this pronounced? I hate to sound like an idiot pronouncing it like a "filet of fish". Especially if it should sound more like "fill it up."
Reply:Fillet  is pronounced like 'Fill-it'.Benson's Mobile Welding - Dayton, OH metro area - AWS Certified Welding Inspector
Reply:froggy,Pronunciation is 'fill-et'.  Not the same pronunciation as the boneless fish slice, which is 'fil-ay'.eyeball,Pretty nice fillet weld on a T-joint.  Also know as a 2F weld if it was welded in the position shown in the picture (base plate flat and vertical plate, well , vertical   )  See also http://content.lincolnelectric.com/p...ture/wc474.pdf  What was your question?    The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...
Reply:Thanks guys. Expect a lot more "dumb" questions like that from me.
Reply:Originally Posted by RubberFrogHow is this pronounced? I hate to sound like an idiot pronouncing it like a "filet of fish". Especially if it should sound more like "fill it up."
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineerhere's the weld I was trying to describe. I haven't used this technique in a while, I can make it look much better, but this was a quicky.... here it is
Reply:Will pulsing with the trigger wear out your contacter sooner?
Reply:The dimples indicate this was pulse welded. Looks cool but would not consider it the most structurally sound weld.
Reply:Also, http://content.lincolnelectric.com/p...ture/wc475.pdfHmmm, now that ZT mentions 'trigger' and MIG and seeing that it is aluminum (from the 'frosted' zones on the sides of the fillet), I have to revise my earlier comment about "Nice" to ...Generally consistent speed and spacing of dollops, however the dimples in the weld bead are weld discontinuities.  Not quite as bad as craters, but still not a 'good' bead profile especially for aluminum.  Also, especially on aluminum MIG, bead starts are notorious for being 'cold' in short-arc transfer mode.  So each and every little dollop of weld there is probably running 'cold'.  Short-arc MIG is notorious for making welds that look good on the surface, but may have inadequate penetration and lack of fusion.About the only way to tell is to test the weld, either via NDT or cut apart and examine or BFH and examine the broken apart weld.  The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFabSo to be clear, all you're showing is the "trigger" method of MIG welding?The dimples in the center of some of the beads are the inidicator and are detrimental to the weld quality.
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineerYES, that is what I  meant, sorry for the confusion, and the small craters are a bad weld quality, but in some applications this weld is probably alright
Reply:You can get an excellent quality bead on thin sheet aluminum with a Lincoln Power Mig 350MP because it has pulse mig AND pulse on pulse mig. It allows you to not burn through. Neat stuff they come up with. They also have power mode for thicker stuff. But not too thick.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:I don't know an inspector who would accept that weld.  It just SCREAMS "centerline cracking."
Reply:Not everything gets inspected. Maybe someone just wants to make a nice looking hook for their hardhat on the truck, a cable holder on the side of a welding rig, Some place for paper towels to go in the racing trailer. Sheeeeeesh. Now go back and learn to do a nice continuous aluminum bead and post up the pictures after you have it magnafluxed, xrayed and sonic tested to ensure that the hard had never falls off the hook. Besides, other welders will see it and give you carp for doing it. heheheheheheLincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Cant belive that someone would knock how ZT welds and i can do that type attitude....then posts up a fillet weld with spot craters in the middle.
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRiseHmmm, now that ZT mentions 'trigger' and MIG and seeing that it is aluminum (from the 'frosted' zones on the sides of the fillet), I have to revise my earlier comment about "Nice" to ...
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineerYES, that is what I  meant, sorry for the confusion, and the small craters are a bad weld quality, but in some applications this weld is probably alright
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFabThe only confusion is what it is that you are trying to prove. ...except for the fact that you are too lazy to make a proper weld, even for demonstration purposes. I don't know if you think that nobody believed that a "stack of dimes" or "MIG like TIG" weld could be made by "trigger" welding and that you have something that needed to be proven. Nobody contested that fact.If you think that weld is acceptable in any condition then that just goes to show your lack of experience and depth of knowledge. If you aren't striving to make the best possible weld each and every time that you fire up the torch, even if it's for a hard-hat hanger in your truck, then you are doing a great dis-service to yourself and potentially letting bad, lazy, and unsafe habits form. I'm not saying that you have to be the best weldor on earth to be one at all but welding is more than just how the bead looks. There is preparation and execution involved and if you are too lazy to do the required prep and lack the knowledge in the execution, you will not be a very successful weldor. Look around this site. There are MANY people that I consider to be great weldors. David R, DSW, FarmerSamm, Duane B, etc...do they make the prettiest welds.....maybe, maybe not but what they have is the knowledge to perform the necessary work, know their limitations, work with what they have to get the job done, and from what I see they are always trying to be better than they were the day before.
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRiseAlso, http://content.lincolnelectric.com/p...ture/wc475.pdfHmmm, now that ZT mentions 'trigger' and MIG and seeing that it is aluminum (from the 'frosted' zones on the sides of the fillet), I have to revise my earlier comment about "Nice" to ...Generally consistent speed and spacing of dollops, however the dimples in the weld bead are weld discontinuities.  Not quite as bad as craters, but still not a 'good' bead profile especially for aluminum.  Also, especially on aluminum MIG, bead starts are notorious for being 'cold' in short-arc transfer mode.  So each and every little dollop of weld there is probably running 'cold'.  Short-arc MIG is notorious for making welds that look good on the surface, but may have inadequate penetration and lack of fusion.About the only way to tell is to test the weld, either via NDT or cut apart and examine or BFH and examine the broken apart weld.
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineerit's mild HR 1/8" it is just a $hitty pic as ZTFab stated, I'll make sure to try to include all of that kinda info right off the bat next time I post
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRiseAh, the pic somehow made me think aluminum.