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never had a job thats all oxy/ace cutting. there rail cars some of the steel is up to 2" what do you think a fair hourly rate is. there helium tubesno thats not me just the pic they emailed me Attached ImagesLast edited by ed mac; 01-13-2011 at 06:04 PM.
Reply:Can you do it T&M? Meaning, your hourly labor rate AND cost of gasses. Or do you just have to come up with a total hourly rate which includes materials? The latter would be more difficult unless you know exactly how much gas it will cost you to cut everything up. I would suggest maybe a liquid O2 bottle. I think the cost of a 180 bottle was equal to seven "K" cylinders and I think that gave you seventeen "K" cylinders of O2."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Liquid oxygen and propane."The man of great wealth owes a peculiar obligation to the State, because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government."  Teddy RooseveltAmerican by birth, Union by choice!  Boilermakers # 60America is a Union.
Reply:What exactly are you do to these railcars? and who for?I work for a railroad, and worked as a Car Mechanic for years before moving into the office.
Reply:Another vote for liquid oxygen and propane. Nothing like seeing the torch lines freeze 5 ft from the tanksYou have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else. Albert Einstein
Reply:all i have is oxy/ace and not going to invest more on this joba 145 ace and a 125 oxy will last about 120 min when i first posted this i was thinking 30 hr but after doingsome home work it should be at least 40 hrnot shure if i even want the job so i might say 60hrLast edited by ed mac; 01-13-2011 at 08:00 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Eric NWhat exactly are you do to these railcars? and who for?I work for a railroad, and worked as a Car Mechanic for years before moving into the office.
Reply:I can't tell from the picture; what kind of metal are the tubes? Carbon steel, higher alloy, maybe even stainless? How are they interconnected? Looks like they're welded just near the ends, with brackets in between towards the middle. " some of the steel is up to 2" "Anyone thinking about spud guns?
Reply:Originally Posted by ed maccut the tubes out they want to save them
Reply:Originally Posted by ed macall i have is oxy/ace and not going to invest more on this joba 145 ace and a 125 oxy will last about 120 min
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepSee if they'd consider a deal that would be an even trade, no money exchange.You remove the tubes for them in a professional manner and then the remains are yours. Good Luck
Reply:2" thick wow, thats going to take some time. Consumables are always a factor with time. You might need up to #6 cutting tips to sever the 2". How is the material carried away when its cut? Im guessing crane? Do you have to pay for the crane time as well?Also what are the dangers of working around helium tanks and the tanks in general? You could bid high and still get it as no one else may be interested in taking on the job. You could hire Stick-man! Find out what exactly is in those containers if they haven't told you already. There apparently are different types of helium with different reactions. Wikii Info on helium. Good luck, hope it works out for you! Im guessing your a self employed mobile welder?Last edited by oxygen454; 01-13-2011 at 10:31 PM.
Reply:i have a the top of the line victor with a 5-1-101 tipsset oxy to 45-55 and ace to 6-12  ?i have to put my bid in by 10:00am friday
Reply:Are there bid specs or is a casual RFQ?
Reply:with that 145 cf  acet tank, is the tip you cut with gonna exceed the 1/7 ( now 1/10) rule on acetylene?
Reply:Originally Posted by oxygen454How is the material carried away when its cut? Im guessing crane? Do you have to pay for the crane time as well?You could hire Stick-man!
Reply:just looked at a smith chart, i guess you wont have to worry about the 1/7  rule...
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manReading the OP, I was under the impression he was just bidding an hourly rate for himself to just perform cutting. Obviously, if he has to tackle the job in its entirety, then he did not give any/enough info for us to help him.I would LOVE to tell my wife that I picked up a job in FL, and I'm sorry I will miss watching all of the snow with her!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by oxygen454I would set the oxy to 53 or so and acetylene about 10. You could go 12, I start to get nervous when I get close to 15 lol.
Reply:Originally Posted by ed maci have to put my bid in by 10:00am friday
Reply:I would go to my gas supplier for suggestions and pricing.
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepWell... how'd the cookie crumble?
Reply:if ya dont want to do it , bid high and see where it takes yaI forgot how to change this.
Reply:The thinner stuff could be done by plasma, saving a lot of money. I'd save the stuff over 1" for the gas axe...if you have a 60-80 amp plasma...Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT