Marking & Identification of Steel items for a project!

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I work in a archtiectural and structural fabrication shop, some peoples even foreman and field workers are complaining about the way that the pieces are marked, at first we were using a kind of wax blue marker wich is supposed to reappear through the primer paint!For galvanized project we are using thin sheet metal square about 3'' X 2" as a tag, we have to punch with letters the number and the item, the tag method is the one almost all small/medium even big shops are using, and it works great!2 years ago a was working in a shop were ALL the item (galvanized or primered) had to be identifiying by a steel tag, i found that method really good, its easy for every one, peoples in the shop, the guy who load the truck, and field worker!At the company that im now, when it come to primered item its always a messed, they tried to marked and put masking tape on it, they tried everything, but they don't want try the tag method for primered items, because they say ''its too long to make tag''Im not looking for the ultimate way to change my shop, im just looking for some tricks and tips and advice on how it works in differents shop through this forum!how do you guys organized and identifiying items for a projects to be esay for field worker and everyone!Calculator > Bevel Square
Reply:Can you weld identifying letters at each joint?Dynasty 200DXPassport plus w/ spoolmate 100victor 315c oxy/(act and prop)Miller digital elitemilwaukee power tools
Reply:how are they screwing up the masking over the written tag part?      Hilti makes a system for using a powder actuated gun for marking steel rapidly but its pricey.thats the one thing I HATE is trying to figure out which part is which in the field loosing money rapidly.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:All I've ever used on primered items was the bleed thru paint marker. Years ago the steel fab place where I worked had a structural job for  a local chain grocery store. We'd mark all the beams, purlins, ties etc with their location mark and as was standard (unapproved practice) a few 'choice' comments for the ironworkers as to their lineage, mothers profession etc :-).Welll, unbeknow to us all the structural was going to be exposed and painted a light tan color, get the pic? , we took a lot of crap for that as well as a lot of extra money  for removing all the writing, good snd bad.....Mike
Reply:Stamping the letters and numbers on the left hand end is standard procedure and works well even with the paint if the stamp sets are replace every few years.  They eventually lose their sharpness.   I think the only good way for galvanizing is tags because you can stamp deeper on a 1/8 th thick tag.Having several hundred on hand with wires ready to stamp as needed speeds things up.   Time is wasted if every fabricator in the shop has to make his own tags every few days.   I am not a big supporter of bleed through markers.... there are also bleed through versions for galvanizing.
Reply:You might try the embossable Aluminum tags that you write on with a ball point pen or stylus.  They are used in the nursery industry.http://www.gemplers.com/product/T800...ags-Box-of-100http://www.amleo.com/aluminum-tag-do...wired/p/DSA1S/"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:The company I work for uses a paint marker covered with masking tape on primed pieces for any precise part numbers, or the bleed through marker for any simple a1, b2 kind of numbers. And they use the tags for anything galvanized. It seems to work pretty well. Just need to be consistent with where you put the markings.IW Local 580 NY, NY
Reply:Originally Posted by lotechmanStamping the letters and numbers on the left hand end is standard procedure and works well even with the paint if the stamp sets are replace every few years.  They eventually lose their sharpness.   I think the only good way for galvanizing is tags because you can stamp deeper on a 1/8 th thick tag.Having several hundred on hand with wires ready to stamp as needed speeds things up.   Time is wasted if every fabricator in the shop has to make his own tags every few days.   I am not a big supporter of bleed through markers.... there are also bleed through versions for galvanizing.
Reply:another problem with wired tags is they can get severed and lost in transit.  espeically if the company sub contracts the hauling.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.