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Well i finally started my new fab table that i have been trying to get around to since before Xmas here are just a few pictures i took to night of my progress i have the legs are cut and few another thing.here are the jack stands so i can level the table no mere unlevel surface for me its 3/4x10 all tread welded to a 1/4 plate the the other plates are for my casters to roll the table were i want!!!these are the plates that are welded to the bottom of the leg with a 3/4x10 bolt is welded to so toy can screw it up and downhere is them welded to the bottomHere is the Castor mount weldedhere is the leg with the caster mount welded with the gusset on the back side and the botttom of the legs smoothed out and finally for tonight here is the leg with the gusset all welled up..Last edited by wd40prerunner; 01-07-2010 at 06:30 AM.SIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:oh ya one leg 3 more to go!! hahahaSIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Good project, WD.Keep us posted with pictures as you go.At first, I wondered if the jack stand plates would hit the casters, but I see you offset the casters more than enough.Burt _____________________Miller Syncrowave 250Millermatic 211Miller 375 Plasma Cutter Hobart Handler 12010FtDrillBit.com
Reply:Nice idea, but I wonder if the jack stands will give you a few issues in practice. From the looks of them you have to spin the whole bottom pad when you make an adjustment. That could be a PITA on uneven ground if the high side prevents you from turning the pad when there is  weight on the table. On the heavy equipment and tables I've installed, usually the pad  will stay stationarry and the threaded shaft will spin in it if the table itslf is threaded. The other way I've seen it done is with the thread loose in the table riding in a snug tube that keeps it straight, and the height is adjustedwith a nut that turns on the stationary threaded leg.Of course you can always just toss a jack under the table and pick it up higher, then rotate the leg and set it down, but thats usually a pain if you are trying to get it super acurate.The rest looks real nice..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I've used this type on several tables, all you need to do is turn the nut with a wrench to adjust height. No need to spin the foot. It helps to have a flat washer between the nut and table. I've used larger all thread too, giving me a nut large enough to build a wingnut, eliminating the need for a wrench and dealing with the weight easier. Nice start on a table, post more photos as you progress! Thanks.Last edited by gizzardgutz; 01-07-2010 at 02:27 PM.Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.                                         -Cree Indian ProverbSA 200 LincolnVictor Torches
Reply:Originally Posted by gizzardgutzI've used this type on several tables, all you need to do is turn the nut with a wrench to adjust height. No need to spin the foot. It helps to have a flat washer between the nut and table. I've used larger all thread too, giving me a nut large enough to build a wingnut, eliminating the need for a wrench and dealing with the weight easier. Nice start on a table, post more photos as you progress! Thanks.
Reply:I need to build a welding table myself, and use some of your ideas.  Got the stuff, just need to do it.Nice start on yours.  Look forward to seeing you finish it.I see you over on Pirate 4x4 ever now then.
Reply:Originally Posted by tortisI need to build a welding table myself, and use some of your ideas.  Got the stuff, just need to do it.Nice start on yours.  Look forward to seeing you finish it.I see you over on Pirate 4x4 ever now then.
Reply:Thanks for posting. I think that's how I'll be doing my table after seeing your work. Keep the pics coming.Just another clown trying to be cool
Reply:What process is you usin', MIG?
Reply:Originally Posted by papabearWhat process is you usin', MIG?
Reply:here is the progress that i made last night i started to finallly lay out the frame i have to go to work i will post more laterSIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:I dig the screw jack idea.  Did you get the all thread in town?  I don't recall seeing any that big at McFadden-Dale.   Just got the first sticks for my table at Curtis today.  I'll get the plate next week when I figure out how get 500# of 3/8 out of my truck and into the garage.  Dave
Reply:I think you're doing a nice job.I also like the way you're using lighter gauge steel.  Lighter weight steel tubing, with wider webs is very strong.  It's a very good cost effective alternative to throwing lots of heavy walled tubing at the problem.  The strength is in the web.  And the welds look to be good.I'm continuously experimenting with lighter materials, and it's sort of nerve wracking.  It's hard not to outguess yourself if you don't know how the material is gonna behave.Seems that you get to a point where you can do a good job gluing the pieces together, then you start to see how far you can push the envelope with the materials you use."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:i like the welds. is the big hole in the gusset too big and took out too much meat in the corner? just looks that way to me..
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadi like the welds. is the big hole in the gusset too big and took out too much meat in the corner? just looks that way to me..
Reply:Ok, so there's no flange here, but there is the top of the web which is the flange so to speak.And would adding even a 1" wide flange add to the strength?It's important if you make stuff"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadi like the welds. is the big hole in the gusset too big and took out too much meat in the corner? just looks that way to me..
Reply:why make gussets triangular?  why not a piece of flat stock out at the end...
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadwhy make gussets triangular?  why not a piece of flat stock out at the end...
Reply:Originally Posted by dstevensI dig the screw jack idea.  Did you get the all thread in town?  I don't recall seeing any that big at McFadden-Dale.   Just got the first sticks for my table at Curtis today.  I'll get the plate next week when I figure out how get 500# of 3/8 out of my truck and into the garage.  Dave
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI think you're doing a nice job.I also like the way you're using lighter gauge steel.  Lighter weight steel tubing, with wider webs is very strong.  It's a very good cost effective alternative to throwing lots of heavy walled tubing at the problem.  The strength is in the web.  And the welds look to be good.I'm continuously experimenting with lighter materials, and it's sort of nerve wracking.  It's hard not to outguess yourself if you don't know how the material is gonna behave.Seems that you get to a point where you can do a good job gluing the pieces together, then you start to see how far you can push the envelope with the materials you use.
Reply:a little more progress. i to the to halfs and squared them to the table that took a while!!! but after getting it square i tacked them to the table to keep i square.cant always get it perfect i then added the 2x4 to connect the to haves then i tack everything and measured and i was just under a 1/32 from square  so i welded the whole thing upthen i put the casters on now i just need to get my plate back in the shop and put it on. sorry my shop is a complete mess since everything is pushed to the side till i get he table done and can put everything in it proper spotSIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Originally Posted by wd40prerunneri got the all thread at home depot you can buy them in 3' 4' 12' lengths for 17.00 buck McFadden-dale is way to expensive i only go there when it someone else money or i really need some off the wall bolt...where at in vegas do you live
Reply:I don't think that McFaddendale gets their hardware from the same source as Home Depot.M-D fasteners are from Grattan.  http://www.grattanproducts.com/   For Grade 8 the big boxes have a few drawers but M-D have an entire aisle.  I'm usually buying them by the box and the chains don't have the quality or the quantity in most cases.  Particularly metric.
Reply:It looks good, WD40Prerunner!  After looking at some of the other pics, I am guessing the the 4 x 4 and 2 x 4 are .120".  Is that right?How much would you guess that it weighs, without the top?  What size of top are you planning on?Again, it looks good and it is good to see your project progress!-Rhyno07 Fowler 200D65 RedFace04 Miller TB 302, 22hpMiller 12RCMiller HF 251-1Lincoln SP135HyperTherm PM 380and a few others... Originally Posted by RhynoBut, if I "all of a sudden disappear....  ...." hopefully I didn't suffer too much....
Reply:Originally Posted by RhynoIt looks good, WD40Prerunner!  After looking at some of the other pics, I am guessing the the 4 x 4 and 2 x 4 are .120".  Is that right?How much would you guess that it weighs, without the top?  What size of top are you planning on?Again, it looks good and it is good to see your project progress!-Rhyno
Reply:Originally Posted by riceburnerI don't think that McFaddendale gets their hardware from the same source as Home Depot.
Reply:Originally Posted by wd40prerunnerthat was a ordeal getting them to my house.
Reply:Originally Posted by dstevensLOL, I bet.  Same thing here.  It will fit in my truck or I can have it delivered but once it gets here I'm stuck.   I think I may just gouge a hole or two about an inch or so in from the edge and use shackles and lifting straps with an engine hoist.  Then the trick is to store the rest I don't use on the table.  Dave
Reply:Originally Posted by wd40prerunnerYa I used my mag drill with a 3/4 bit.. Then used my cherry picker to move them were I wanted thAt was a job.
Reply:i got my top on today and cleaned up i will post picture tonightSIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Originally Posted by RhynoIn my past, when needing to move large/heavy plate, I would cut a "lifting eye" out of some scrap.  Then weld it into the center of what needed to be lifted.  When you are done, cut off the "eye" and grind flush.  That way you don't have a big hole in the top of your table.I hope that this helps.....-Rhyno
Reply:Originally Posted by RhynoIn my past, when needing to move large/heavy plate, I would cut a "lifting eye" out of some scrap.  Then weld it into the center of what needed to be lifted.  When you are done, cut off the "eye" and grind flush.  That way you don't have a big hole in the top of your table.
Reply:who lives in vegas? i live out in hendersonlincoln weld pac 100Hobart handler 120Lincoln  "BuZZ box"Lincoln Precision Tig 225
Reply:Originally Posted by beamed94OneFiddYwho lives in vegas? i live out in henderson
Reply:well here are the pictures of it with the top on ithope everyone likes the way it turned out.SIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:man my shop looks like white trash... im only 24 so the next house i buy is going to have a big shop in it!! for sure i have to much stuff...somedaySIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Originally Posted by wd40prerunnerI live in henderson I'm my major cross streets at boulder and lake mead were are
Reply:wd40,Very Nice!Do you mind sharing dimensions and specs on your table. I am getting ready to build a similar table. Is that a 1" top?3X5 top?How much overlap of the top?Are those 4X4 legs?Thanks
Reply:WD-It looks good.  The two tables match nicely.  How did you attach the top to the legs?  Gravity or a weld?-Rhyno07 Fowler 200D65 RedFace04 Miller TB 302, 22hpMiller 12RCMiller HF 251-1Lincoln SP135HyperTherm PM 380and a few others... Originally Posted by RhynoBut, if I "all of a sudden disappear....  ...." hopefully I didn't suffer too much....
Reply:Originally Posted by Vtxmanwd40,Very Nice!Do you mind sharing dimensions and specs on your table. I am getting ready to build a similar table. Is that a 1" top?3X5 top?How much overlap of the top?Are those 4X4 legs?Thanks
Reply:Originally Posted by RhynoWD-It looks good.  The two tables match nicely.  How did you attach the top to the legs?  Gravity or a weld?-Rhyno
Reply:just wanted to post up a little  bit about my table its been about 6 months since it was built. it has been through hell a whole bunch of projects have been built on it. people were telling that the caster where not going to last the way i mounted them i was told that they were going to start to sage. well after all this time they are still at 90* and roll great  i love my tablesSIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:If I calculated correctly, your a 1" x 3' x 5' top weighs 615 lbs.  What did you use to lift it onto the legs?That's an awesome table.  It ought to last longer than you!
Reply:i used a cherry picker it was kinda scary it took a while to center it where i wanted it.SIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Originally Posted by joedirt1966If I calculated correctly, your a 1" x 3' x 5' top weighs 615 lbs.  What did you use to lift it onto the legs?That's an awesome table.  It ought to last longer than you!
Reply:Looks good bro!
Reply:parckay floor in a shop... never sceen that before. lol. Nice tables.As for the casters, what size are they? 3"? the $5 3" casters at HF are rated at 275lbs. Multiply that by 4, you're at 1100 lbs, and thats only when you're rolling the table around. I'm guessing you've got 300-400 lbs to spare and it's on the feet when you're working. I don't think you've got anything to worry about. and unless you're pounding on them without the feet down I highly doubt that you'll be collapsing the walls on the legs.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger