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Here's a dump trailer I put together.  My grandfather originally built the bed but the truck under it was getting nasty and I needed something more roadworthy.  The trailer I bought as a frame with a 8x8 flatbed (mainly for the tires and axles).  I removed the flat bed and stretched the trailer frame 14" in front of the axles.  I added the toolbox, rear bumper, and put the channel stringers on top of the frame to hold the bed at the right height.  The trailer already had pipe crossmembers so I added one and just sat the hoist on them.  The sides are removable.  Of course once it was done it was painted, rewired and fitted with LEDs.  Been using it for a year now and it's worked out great.
Reply:Last edited by cd19; 11-15-2011 at 08:08 AM.
Reply:Very nice trailer. Whats the dimensions of the dump box. Josh
Reply:You might want to relocate your spare to the front of the dump bed. easier to get to when you blow a tire under load. Also means you don't have to shift your load to get to it.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Originally Posted by ephotrodVery nice trailer. Whats the dimensions of the dump box. Josh
Reply:Originally Posted by ephotrodVery nice trailer. Whats the dimensions of the dump box. Josh
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerYou might want to relocate your spare to the front of the dump bed. easier to get to when you blow a tire under load. Also means you don't have to shift your load to get to it.
Reply:That's a nice trailer, you did good.
Reply:Where is the safety arm? You need one for maintenence......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:How does it work to figure out the legal weight you are rated for? You didn't say what state you are in. Is that something the state determines, prints on your registration???
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterWhere is the safety arm? You need one for maintenence......zap!
Reply:Originally Posted by fordmanDoesnt have to be part of the trailer does it?
Reply:Originally Posted by CosmicRamblerHow does it work to figure out the legal weight you are rated for? You didn't say what state you are in. Is that something the state determines, prints on your registration???
Reply:Nice trailer!  I have a mind to build one, but no time on the calendar. Where did you hide the oil reservoir?  Certainly that little can on the pump can't handle all the backflow when the bed comes down.- MondoMember, AWSLincoln ProMIG 140Lincoln AC TombstoneCraftsman Lathe 12 x 24 c1935Atlas MFC Horizontal MillCraftsman Commercial Lathe 12 x 36 c1970- - - I'll just keep on keepin' on.
Reply:Originally Posted by MondoNice trailer!  I have a mind to build one, but no time on the calendar. Where did you hide the oil reservoir?  Certainly that little can on the pump can't handle all the backflow when the bed comes down.- Mondo
Reply:Originally Posted by cd19I am in PA, and here your max trailer GVW is figured off the axles.  You cannot count on transfer onto the towing vehicle until you reach over 10K.  So if your under 10K they would weight the trailer itself to see if it is overweight.  To get a new trailer titled you would go to an "enhanced" state inspection station and take all your material receipts and they will look to see that it looks structurally secure and all of the safety items are there, then fill out the paper work. This trailer has 2 6k axles.
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWNice job. I'm guessing the trailer is titled at 10K even though you have 2 6K axles. I know in the past they wouldn't let you retitle a heavier trailer to get under the 10K weight. Once a 12K trailer, always a 12k trailer... Not exactly sure about "home builts". I've gotten differing answers as to if they consider a trailer based on the axle ratings ( if so your's would have to be titled as a 12K trailer), or if they allow you to use a heavier set of axles and just claim the frame is rated at 10K and have it titled as such. I know a friend ordered his new trailer with over sized brakes / tires and from the factory it came with 6K axles and a 10K title. he ordered a 10 K trailer to get around the need for his son to have to get a class A CDL right now.If it's titled over 10K, just be aware in PA they require you have a class A license if you have a trailer in tow  no mater what the actual weight is. They changed the law a few years back and I know many guys who dumped their 12 and 14K trailers simply not to have to deal with all the BS that goes with having a class A CDL. It's a huge money maker for the townships near me when they do DOT check points. A trailer like that screams "stop me and write me a big ticket, I don't have the right license". They usually catch a few contractors with trailers at check point down the street from the dump every time. Either they are over weight ( not all that hard with a big trailer like that and say dirt, stone or construction debris) or the trailer is over 10 K and the driver doesn't have a class A license. I understand it's a bit better in the middle of the state where things aren't as built up.Most cops won't accept a  PA non CDL class A  license for a trailer like that, as they will automatically consider it  a "commercial" use trailer. You can pretty much  only use the non CDL class A license for boats, travel trailers and so on. Flat beds are iffy. Most cops consider them a "work" trailer even if you have a Jeep or  4x4 on it if they stop you, and will write the ticket for having the wrong license at best, and red tag the trailer until you can get a driver with an acceptable class A license at worst.
Reply:Ok, so as you show it, I guessed you have something around 10 cu/yard capacity depending on how you pile it up. But I'm still a bit fuzzy how much actual weight net you would try to haul in it. Both from a legal viewpoint and a practical one. When fully maxed out on weight is there any problems trying to dump it or pull it with a pickup truck. With the sides off is there any ability to put a ramp or whatever to drive something directly on it?Ohio is a real mess in this regard. Homebuilt trailers have no title. You just go get it weighed, zero inspection of any type and then you need a license plate over a certain weight, under that nothing is required. You get a registration and pay by the weight of the trailer. Zero guidance in what the actual legal weight you might attempt to haul in it. Nothing is noted on the registration other that the trailer weight itself. State just seems to want the money.Aside from the larger interstates probably zero enforcement of anything. If you did get stopped I can't see how he would judge what the weight limit should be.  In researching it seems all over the lot depending on the state.I got a trailer, thinking of selling it and maybe getting something smaller, having that ability to dump would be neat. Still a bit puzzled about the idea of how they are rated and how close you should try to go to that. The locals never seem to care. Overloaded is pretty much the common mode in far too often a case. If is fits it ships, even if hanging way over the sides.
Reply:Originally Posted by cd19I think you might be off on your CDL stuff a little, I argue the same point as you, but I know of several guys "legally" pulling a 14k trailer without CDL as they claim their combo is under 26K and have been through DOT stops without issue.  There are a lot a gray areas in PA laws dealing with farm equipment and small trailers which is a major PITA
Reply:Originally Posted by CosmicRamblerOk, so as you show it, I guessed you have something around 10 cu/yard capacity depending on how you pile it up. But I'm still a bit fuzzy how much actual weight net you would try to haul in it. Both from a legal viewpoint and a practical one. When fully maxed out on weight is there any problems trying to dump it or pull it with a pickup truck. With the sides off is there any ability to put a ramp or whatever to drive something directly on it?Ohio is a real mess in this regard. Homebuilt trailers have no title. You just go get it weighed, zero inspection of any type and then you need a license plate over a certain weight, under that nothing is required. You get a registration and pay by the weight of the trailer. Zero guidance in what the actual legal weight you might attempt to haul in it. Nothing is noted on the registration other that the trailer weight itself. State just seems to want the money.Aside from the larger interstates probably zero enforcement of anything. If you did get stopped I can't see how he would judge what the weight limit should be.  In researching it seems all over the lot depending on the state.I got a trailer, thinking of selling it and maybe getting something smaller, having that ability to dump would be neat. Still a bit puzzled about the idea of how they are rated and how close you should try to go to that. The locals never seem to care. Overloaded is pretty much the common mode in far too often a case. If is fits it ships, even if hanging way over the sides.
Reply:How do you let the box down?  I see the hose going to the pressure side of the pump block.  I don't see a release valve."Great spirits have always encountered violent oppostion from mediocre minds."  --  Albert Einstein
Reply:Originally Posted by razerHow do you let the box down?  I see the hose going to the pressure side of the pump block.  I don't see a release valve.
Reply:I see.  That makes sense.  Thanks.  "Great spirits have always encountered violent oppostion from mediocre minds."  --  Albert Einstein