Any Canadian Welder here?

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I'm looking for Canadian Welder I have some questions
Reply:Lots of Canadian members here.  What are your questions?MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Hows it going, eh?JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:I plan to study in CanadaIn fact I want to study welding (A study welding for one year)And thenFinding workAnd obtaining residencyBut there are several points worry me(I can not sleep and my head was going to explode from thinking)What are the chances of getting a job in welding in Canada after study?I always find companies want experienceSo I'm afraidfrom Spend 15 - 20 thousand dollars to study weldingIn the end, no jobSo I need to adviceIf the idea of welding study is a good ideaAnd employment opportunities available after study?OrIt's a bad ideaandI should be studying something elseDoes not require experience to get a jobI'm looking forward to reply
Reply:Spend 15 - 20 thousand dollars to study weldingWhat country are you from ? That $ seems a little high........
Reply:you will spend around $3,500 on schooling including all the books / supplies you will need for your first year of schooling in Canada. And you will be able to find a job no problem right out of school.It wont pay that great to start. But you can find work easy.
Reply:Originally Posted by BiggerairSpend 15 - 20 thousand dollars to study welding
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderI'm looking for Canadian Welder I have some questions
Reply:Any Canadians here pipe welders living in the GTA, or southern Ontario?
Reply:Finding work:  lots of work in BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan.  Not so hot in other provinces  Residency:  be careful and follow rules.  if your visa expires or you piss off some government official you will have no end of trouble.  Previously the point system favoured university graduates.  The points rules have changed.You will not spend that much money!!!!   A 9 month course will run you under five K.  check carefully... in some cases non citizens pay a bit more.   If you have relatives in Alberta who will put you up and you can get sponsorship you will find work.  Word of caution:  If a Canadian sponsors someone as an immigrant and that immigrant ends up on welfare guess who will pay the shot.   Most welding tickets are accepted across the border.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12345678910Public college  education is subsided, if here comes in as a foreign student, the colleges do not receive govt subsidy, but charge high foreign tuitions.Here's a thought, stay in your country, get cheaper welding and English as a second language training there, gain experience and save your $ for entry as an esperienced worker.You have to have enough $ to show you can support yourself for at least a year before you apply for residency.Better chances all around.
Reply:YesI'm an international student so I am forced to pay huge feesHere's a thought, stay in your country, get cheaper welding and English as a second language training there, gain experience and save your $ for entry as an esperienced worker.You have to have enough $ to show you can support yourself for at least a year before you apply for residency.
Reply:if you wanna challenge the course  you dont need to do any Oxy welding at all.To the best of my knowledge all you have to do is pass CWB tests.Stick(SMAW)- all positionsWire(GMAW) hardwire/fluxcore -all positionsThats out here in BC... may be diff in Alberta...Ive actually heard schooling is alot easier in Alberta.
Reply:We are planning to move to AlbertaSo I'm looking for colleges or institutes to study welding(Welding program for one year)If there is one known as a good place and at cheap pricesI welcome any help(Thats out here in BC... may be diff in Alberta...Ive actually heard schooling is alot easier in Alberta. )Yes I hear good comments about AlbertaIn factI still do not know what province the most ease of migration after studyButAnywayI will go first to study English
Reply:Anyone can go get a CWB welding certification ticket.However, to work in the oil patch and do code work in Alberta you will require Red Seal Journeymen welder status, plus your welding tickets. You can challenge the Red Seal exam but you require 5400 (I believe) documented hours of welding work to do so.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:It was almost ten years ago that I drove through Edmonton on the Trans Canada highway.  I saw several huge signs on buildings asking for welders.  I never left the highway. If someone has a basic CWB ticket on plate there are lots of jobs in the city.  Sure the oil patch pays big but you are away from home and always moving around.  In the big picture the number of pressure welding jobs in the whole welding industry is a fraction of the whole. Many never weld pressure and they make a fine living supporting their families.
Reply:Where are you from?? there are company's in western canada bringing in cheap foreign workers doing ****ty work that don't have the skills or knowledge to do the task they are sent out to do, so my suggestion unless your American stay wherever the **** your at and leave Canadian jobs to Canadians.
Reply:Don't listen to Weldr11.  I have worked with: vietnamese, chinese, east indian, indians from the south pacific, blacks from the caribean, caucasians from Europe, iron curtain countries, Jews from Isreal and even one from Siberia.  Even the natives walked across that land bridge.  There is no such thing as a "Canadian" unless he of course had his canadian passport LOL.    Scratch back on Weldr11 a few generations and he is just one of the unwashed masses coming across to Canada.    Oh yeah we also have some pretty nasty hate laws that inflict heavy penalties on people who can't get along.
Reply:It's not hate lotechman it's a fact, go ask the next rigwelder or any welder in a shop what he thinks about foreign workers coming over to work and if there quallified to do the jobs as welders that they are given.
Reply:Anyone can go get a CWB welding certification ticket.However, to work in the oil patch and do code work in Alberta you will require Red Seal Journeymen welder status, plus your welding tickets. You can challenge the Red Seal exam but you require 5400 (I believe) documented hours of welding work to do so.
Reply:this has troll written all over it boys! also i am another canadian boy!
Reply:You are dreaming if you think you can take a course and just get a job.  You will be issued a student Visa, which allows you to stay in Canada for the duration of the course, then you will be homeward bound. You can get a student work Visa if internship is part of the course, but it's a maximum of 3 yrs, and matches the course duration.  So if you are on an 8 month course then you can stay only 8 mos after the course.  You will have to apply for a work permit, and probably need sponsorship FROM a canadian citizen, and I'm sure you will have to do it from your home country.But hey, don't take my word for it, try the CIC, Canadian Gov'thttp://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...tions/work.aspLast edited by dellwas; 06-20-2013 at 12:17 PM.
Reply:Arc.welder i never mentioned dirty work in my post so i don't know where your going with that one, but what i'm getting at is company here are getting in foreign workers that work for next to nothing driving down the rate, so if you think i'm racist whatever i don't care, and as i said stay in your own Facking country don't come over here and drive the work down there's enough scabs doing that already.
Reply:[You will have to apply for a work permit, and probably need sponsorship FROM a canadian citizen, and I'm sure you will have to do it from your home country.}
Reply:Why don't we start with what COUNTRY are you from as I am smelling some B.S. with your information.All I can say I'm from the Middle EastAnywayI will appreciate any positive help(Just all what I want to knowIs it easy to find jobs in welding after the study?)thank you
Reply:Originally Posted by weldr11Where are you from?? there are company's in western canada bringing in cheap foreign workers doing ****ty work that don't have the skills or knowledge to do the task they are sent out to do, so my suggestion unless your American stay wherever the **** your at and leave Canadian jobs to Canadians.
Reply:Originally Posted by Prevail604lol I was wondering how long it would take for someone to make a comment like that.Your prob right, but that doesn't prove anything. Most of the guys I work with would say the exact same thing... but they are backwards racist red-necks prob alot like yourself.
Reply:Arc welder you can try to gain landed immigrant status if you have enough points then go from there.  You need a decent command of the english language and you can start out as a labourer or cleaner in a steel shop.  Very few people go to school and walk out into a job welding 8 hours a day.  Inexperienced welders often start at the bottom cleaning and doing labour work.  It is difficult to get into high paying union jobs but there are lots of non union shops that pay a decent wage.   Be very careful of enrolling in any private schools that say they will train you in Canada.  Often people pay their money then the school collapses or the instruction is poor quality.  You are better to enroll in a school that is government run.  In Alberta SAIT and NAIT are good places to start.
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderAll I can say I'm from the Middle EastAnywayI will appreciate any positive help(Just all what I want to knowIs it easy to find jobs in welding after the study?)thank you
Reply:You can't really "study" welding.  Yes there is a lot of theory on metallurgy safety blueprint reading etc but it is a hand skill.   You have to practice long hours.  It is not unlike playing a musical instrument.  The longer you practice the better you get.  A person who comes out of a 8 or 9 month program knows the basics.  He will have about 500 hours of practice time in beside the theory.  One year work is approximately 2000 hours.  It takes 8000 to 10000 hours before you really get the hang of it. ( 4 to 5 years)   This rule works for most trades, carpenter, plumber, electrician etc.
Reply:You say most of the guys you work with is that everybody you work with excluding yourself??? and are you even Canadian?
Reply:Very few people go to school and walk out into a job welding 8 hours a day. Inexperienced welders often start at the bottom cleaning and doing labour work. It is difficult to get into high paying union jobs but there are lots of non union shops that pay a decent wage. Be very careful of enrolling in any private schools that say they will train you in Canada. Often people pay their money then the school collapses or the instruction is poor quality. You are better to enroll in a school that is government run. In Alberta SAIT and NAIT are good places to start.
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderCanadian , Canadian ,Why are you a liar?Everyone knows that Canada is a country of immigrants, (From Europe - Asia - Africa) ,And you do not have the right to be a racist person,Because Canada is not a your country,That your grandparents were immigrants like any oneBut if you feel shame, this is your problemI can be racist against you because you also are not CanadianYou're just one of the generations of immigrants that were born in CanadaMaybe your ancestors came from Afghanistan or Kuala Lumpur, or maybe the Middle EastAs the Russian president said:America's problem that the American people is just immigrantsButRussian people exist since ancient times and has the history and civilizationAnd I think that this also applies to CanadaCanadian people are also immigrantsSo stop saying ****.  , And remember that your grandparents were foreign workersSecond: I hope to respect yourself, and leave the topicHere is not the place for debate on racism  And provide psychotherapy to youYou can discuss it in other placesIf you are a racist person , Go back to your countryBut do not talk too much about Canada and the Canadian peopleIt also appears from your wordsYou are not Canadian, I think that Canadians finest much from youI created this thread , For a specific question on somethingAnd I tried to be polite with you But uselessso , You are not welcomeAnd I hope to leave me , If you have a dignityafter thatI will not reply on youEnd
Reply:And as i said you say your from the Middle east which is a pile of bull, but you can't tell us where, your a dam troll a scab and a hack, and don't question my dignity ****head.
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderAll I can say I'm from the Middle EastAnywayI will appreciate any positive help(Just all what I want to knowIs it easy to find jobs in welding after the study?)thank you
Reply:Do you feel ashamed about where you are from ?
Reply:You Moron i was born in Alberta and live here how can i not be Canadian???
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderI'm from Egypt
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderI think you're petty personYou even can not give me a good answersI know you're born in Canada , So what, you're only holds Canadian citizenshipI know many people who were born in Canada and obtained citizenshipMaybe your ancestors came from AfghanistanMy advice to you:You need a Psychiatristbye[liar person]note:I do not mean to offend Canada or any Canadian personI'm just trying to defend myself,Against that silly person
Reply:Originally Posted by weldr11Arc.welder i never mentioned dirty work in my post so i don't know where your going with that one, but what i'm getting at is company here are getting in foreign workers that work for next to nothing driving down the rate, so if you think i'm racist whatever i don't care, and as i said stay in your own Facking country don't come over here and drive the work down there's enough scabs doing that already.
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCWell, wouldn't you be a joy to work with!
Reply:I can remember White Trucks in Kelown hiring a guy from Vietnam, one of the boat people.  The regular crew turned on a fire hose and hosed the guy down.  The young guy from the plant told me about it and he couldn't get over how cool this little guy was.  He took it in stride.  I told the young guy:  If you had experienced death, rape and torture like that little guy a fire hose was nothing.  That fire hose stream was like a little fly buzzing around him.   Anyone who is willing to leave his country to move halfway around the world and learn and new language and culture has back bone and stamina.  He has far greater than anyone born in his own country and who never travels in the true sense.  I would be the first to admit that I would not be able to live like locals do in other countries.  I have a friend who has travelled through the middle East as well as the far East on his own using the trains and busses that the regular people use and drinking hot tea from shacks beside the road.   I remember taking a night school welding class and the discussion came around to welding tickets.  One guy with a thick accent who was already pretty handy was asked where he learned to weld.  He had learned in the army.  The instructor suggested that he get those tickets he got in the army and his response was that he didn't think they would give them to him.  He kinda smiled and then we all realized this guy was lucky to have the skin on off his back never mind any papers.   There are lots of guys complaining about how they are going to make their next truck payment while the immigrant is grateful to have a roof over his head and three squares even if it is a shared basement apartment and only hamburger and noodles or rice.
Reply:I'm surprised you went to Canada with Uncle Barry giving citizenship to anyone who can spell the word "Hi" here in 'Merica.Oh and BTW, as you have learned, it's best to clarify where you are from instead of saying the "Middle East". As a veteran and a true lover of America, I'm not much of a fan of certain people from certain countries in the "middle east".Big F**king HammerJumper cables & 2 marine batteriesJaws of life
Reply:Thanks to everyone who helped meespecially lotechmanI will do more researchesTo find out if there are provinces have programs for Migration after studyMore easy from AlbertaAnd I will come back after two daysIf I have more questions
Reply:Tons of work in fort saint john, dawson, BC than you can work with lotechman,
Reply:Immigration (migration as you put it) is a Federal Gov't responsibility.  The smartest thing you can do is contact the nearest  Canadian Consulate or Embassy for direction.  The provinces are out of the equation.  I strongly suggest you follow the rules because if you get caught trying to cicumnavigate the law you will be denied entry, for at least a year, and possibly permantly. Originally Posted by arc.welderThanks to everyone who helped meespecially lotechmanI will do more researchesTo find out if there are provinces have programs for Migration after studyMore easy from AlbertaAnd I will come back after two daysIf I have more questions
Reply:Immigration (migration as you put it) is a Federal Gov't responsibility. The smartest thing you can do is contact the nearest Canadian Consulate or Embassy for direction. The provinces are out of the equation. I strongly suggest you follow the rules because if you get caught trying to cicumnavigate the law you will be denied entry, for at least a year, and possibly permantly.
Reply:Originally Posted by arc.welderWhy are you a liar?
Reply:You're still not getting it.  You can only work if the course requires it, then it is only for a maximum of 3 years OR and  it is required as part of the course.  Example you have to work for 3 months as part of the curriculum, then that is all you can work!  You have to have a work visa, and you can't apply for it while living here.  Secondly a student VISA does not allow you to work, it allows you to STUDY, unless it's part of the course.  Welding is not covered under the Federal Skilled Shortage list, but PHds are, that's why normal immigration channels are not followed.Now read this, you may find that Canada is not the bed of roses you think it is.   There are plenty of other articles if you want them.http://http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/...n_2293003.html Originally Posted by arc.welder[B]Thank you And I appreciate your adviceI will definitely respect the lawAnd almost My focus will be on migration through studyAnd it depends on finding a course for at least 8 months+Getting a job after graduation , But I still have some concerns:Because I'm still confusingI'm sure that Canada needs a lot of welders - carpenters - plumber, etc.But most companies want experienceEven in AmericaI read that some Americans They can not find work in their countryBecause they have no experienceBut it will be a wonderful thingIf I can take the first stepsin Somewhere To work and gain experience even if it's a small salaryanywayI'm sure that there are programs to migration for international studentsOnly a person needs to find a job And good provinceExceptions: some types of study do not need a job offer or experience for migration such : master's or PhDIn the end, everything depends on getting a student visa [B]