Running 232 wire

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i need to get a 3G and 4G Cert on 232 wire.  When i called the company that does certifications for us he said that 232 has its own techniqe.  Very different from dual shield.  Because its prone to slag inclusions.   He suggested I just run some wire for a few hours.  But i am wondering does anyone know any tricks or tips on how best to run on test plates.  Thanks Galen.“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:My main concern is the certification test cost is $420.  (Wabo) for Oregon and Washington.   I want to get it right the first time.“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:You don't run it pointing up l like dual shield you actually use a down angle pointing into the slag shelf.Don't try to run a weave thats just asking to drag slag into the welds.  For a cert test don't be afraid to grind the living hell out of if if you think theres a possibility of slag inclusion.   I tend to watch my slag shelf way more than the actual welding puddle running up hill.      you want to keep the slag shelf as flat as possible if it starts to form a V your screwed and the weld will run out the bottom of the V.running over head is just like running flat only the fire will fall on you instead of around you.Its very voltage sensitive.  works in a VERY narrow window.     Its all very sensitive to changes in stick out a constant stick out is crucial to keeping a good V up weld goingVantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Originally Posted by DualieYou don't run it pointing up l like dual shield you actually use a down angle pointing into the slag shelf.Don't try to run a weave thats just asking to drag slag into the welds.  For a cert test don't be afraid to grind the living hell out of if if you think theres a possibility of slag inclusion.   I tend to watch my slag shelf way more than the actual welding puddle running up hill.      you want to keep the slag shelf as flat as possible if it starts to form a V your screwed and the weld will run out the bottom of the V.running over head is just like running flat only the fire will fall on you instead of around you.Its very voltage sensitive.  works in a VERY narrow window.     Its all very sensitive to changes in stick out a constant stick out is crucial to keeping a good V up weld going
Reply:Originally Posted by galencwiMy main concern is the certification test cost is $420.  (Wabo) for Oregon and Washington.   I want to get it right the first time.
Reply:For 3-G I point the gun 90 degrees to the plate, or slightly up until I get a shelf built then I point the gun down slightly, and keep the wire on the back side of the puddle. You have to keep a constant stickout, I like 5/8 to 3/4 inch stickout. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:thank you for the info!  is there a difference on overhead.“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:Originally Posted by DualieYou don't run it pointing up l like dual shield you actually use a down angle pointing into the slag shelf.Don't try to run a weave thats just asking to drag slag into the welds.  For a cert test don't be afraid to grind the living hell out of if if you think theres a possibility of slag inclusion.   I tend to watch my slag shelf way more than the actual welding puddle running up hill.      you want to keep the slag shelf as flat as possible if it starts to form a V your screwed and the weld will run out the bottom of the V.running over head is just like running flat only the fire will fall on you instead of around you.Its very voltage sensitive.  works in a VERY narrow window.     Its all very sensitive to changes in stick out a constant stick out is crucial to keeping a good V up weld going
Reply:Once you pass your test you can try the "Parkinson's shake"  its just a VERY small across shake less than 1/8" total movement as your stacking weld up.    Makes a nice flat glassy bead running up hill.You know your **** on the settings when the slag will pretty much peel itself from the bottom of the bead up.   Or atleast chip off in one or two large pieces.Heres a pic of just a 1G fillet with NO post weld clean up.   One swipe with a chipping hammer and the slag came off.  Those were done off my new at the time Vantage 500 with 20V on the feeder volt meter and the wire speed set on low standing strait up on the dial i believe. NR-232 is very much its own beast.    I think  i probably had to run 50+ lbs of it V-UP before i was completely satisfied with my results.Even today with a couple 1000Lbs of it under my belt.  I still have "off days" where the metal isnt laying as i feel it should.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.