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Hi guys this is the first of a gozillion questions from me so please be patient!I promise from the outset to read and be grateful for the time you spend helping me build my knowledge!I have just been appointed as the Operations manager for a new state of the art technical training institute in the beautiful country of Oman in the Middle East. The facility if currently under construction and will have 78 welding bays and separate grinding areas etc, Lincoln equipment and really cool German benches.I am not a welder, but hope to learn in our new facility, but i desperately want to understand the stages that young welders will go through to eventually qualify as 6G welders. I have cruised the AWS and TWI websites hoping that there would be a straight forward document explaining this but alas no
Any advice, posting a link to something i have missed or a brief explanation would be very gratefully received.thanks guys in anticipationMike
Reply:The question is do you want operators or welders?If you want operators hand then a couple hundred pounds of 6010 and pipe and have them go to town.When they finally figure it out, they will be tested without understanding the whys and the why nots. The world will consider them "welders."If you want actual educated welders, you teach them like high school kids. Teach them both the theory on paper and the physical hands on aspects of welding.Start small. Stick welding, Mig, Tig. Have each student perform and pass a bead, butt, lap, corner, edge, and tee, preferably in that order all in flat position. Then off to horizontal. Stick, Mig,Tig. Repeat. All the way to overhead. When all said and done, you'll have a WELDER not just an operator that knows how to setup the machine and will understand the warning signs of when you're about to keyhole / blown out your puddle and most importantly WHY.Good luck. Sent you a pm.Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller Spectrum 250DMiller Millermatic 200Bunch of old blue dinosaurs....
Reply:Thanks jontheturboguy,couldn't agree more with your post above.What I am trying to do here in Oman as we are in the construction phase of creating a new state of the art welding institute with 78 bays so that we can train young Omani men as 6G welders for the oil and gas industry. We need to find 200 guys to fill our first wave of training which will consist of 4 months foundation (english, maths, some science focused on welding, HSE) then 16 months welding training including theory and paperwork and a one month on the job training before handing them over to the national oil company. And they get paid throughout the whole process and guaranteed employment at the end.It is shocking to me that with great guys in the UK and US crying out for an opportunity like this that we are struggling to get the young Omanis to come for selection!! As a 20 year veteran i would love to offer this to service leavers!!!!You will see lots of questions coming up from me in the weeks ahead so please jump in if you can, i need all the help i can get!Mike
Reply:Big things happening in Oman. Their national company Petronas is talking a $36B commitment in B.C. to build an LNG pipeline and export terminal. We here are still holding our breath on their decision.As for your school. Sounds excellent for the Omanis, but how much of this training is on your shoulders? Are you just looking for background information for your own knowledge? Surely you'll be hiring a welding supervisor to oversee the welding curriculum. I imagine Lincoln has experience setting up schools. With respect to Oman's present investment in B.C., have you had any contact with B.C.'s vocational system. Basically in B.C., a welder does 7 months....learns cutting torch, open root plate, wirefeed, safety, theory etc. He returns for a couple months for pipe, then another month for tig pipe and stainless. All these courses have very good project, procedure, theory and self-test manuals. The stack would be a foot high. I suggest you look into getting a set. They would answer a lot of your questions about learning stages.Last edited by OldSparks; 10-14-2013 at 10:45 AM.
Reply:If I were you, I'd start buying books, and read them. Start here on the AWS site. http://pubs.aws.org/Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Hello Sir,WOW! congrats on your recent investment into the men of your nation. My name is Michael D. Treadway and I run and operate http://www.thewelderslens.com. I am a welder and instructor. I developed a welding study course that teaches students to weld pipe in 2G, 5G, and 6G positions with some fit up and fabrication techniques as well. I was a union boilermaker and went thru an apprenticeship when I was younger. I ran my own welding business in Wyoming and serviced the oil and gas industry as well as RIG welding with my own portable equipment and truck. I had my own shop and designed and fabricated work in my shop for an underground mining operation while in Wyoming as well. I put together a unique approach to welding using welding videos of all original footage with teaching, theory, and actual footage of the weld puddle in 2008. You may be interested in seeing what I have done by visiting my website. Anything I can do to help please let me know.Michael
Reply:I would HIGHLY suggest starting them with structural plate welding. Basics first like running overlapping beads flat, horizontal, vertical, and overhead. Then move on to V grooves with backing bars in the same positions. And lastly, open root V grooves on plate to get them used to running 5P/6010 rods. This last part is essential. If they can't run a root on a plate they will have a hard time running one on a pipe. Doing all of the structural first will get them comfortable welding, and hopefully, reading the puddle and making changes mid-weld to correct mistakes.Do you have an actual program model, or will you be making one yourselves? I would put a strong emphasis on the 6010 root, and then combo welding (tig root, stick fill and cap) on 5-6" pipe and 2" pipe. There are tons of welding school websites (for the US) that you can browse for an idea of the sort of progression they use over here. I wouldn't mind moving to be an instructing assistant, if you want to pay for my relocation.
Reply:Guys,Thanks for the time you have taken to reply, i appreciate it.I have PM'd a couple of you for more info and have taken all the advice given above. Please let me know if you are aware of a good source of posters etc that i could utilise for everything from safety in the workshop to the progressive steps from zero to hero (or at least no experience to 6G)One of the moderators on this site kindly mentioned the rules around "advertising" for jobs and asking related questions so i am hoping that i will be sticking within the rules when i post a new thread about salary expectations/norms for welding educators/instructors. If you can advise on that then please PM me or just reply.Once again thanks guys and if you think of anything else then please let me know.Mike |
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