What Drill press vise do you use, need 2 axis adjustable.

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Im trying to hunt down a good heavy duty cross slide vise that that has a minimum jaw width of 6".  I need it to be adjustable both on the x and y axis for what we're doing.  I see some cheap crap online. Thought i'd check out what people have or know are good units.Found this unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-CS6-C...item2c72561b07Im thinking its a x and y adjustable unit, I see the handle on the back I think for the y axis.Anyone use this, or have another that holds up to lots of use.Thanks
Reply:Looks just like my import. Is that one made in the usa?
Reply:not sure about wiltons....
Reply:I wonder if people really use them all that much anyway. I have one that came with some other stuff that I actually wanted. I never used the darn thing yet. I took it apart to clean and lube it but there it sits.
Reply:I don't know, but we have to drill these holes in a straight line across the plate spaced evenly apart and just seems like it would be easy to adjust, drill, adjust, drill, and so on without having to back off the vise slide over, reclamp, etc.Maybe im missing the boat on the easiest way to do this.
Reply:Originally Posted by mikecwikLooks just like my import. Is that one made in the usa?
Reply:chadwickz71The ebay nightmare - is one step up from junk.A trick tool is rarely a substitute for technique.Explain in detail what you have to do - and someoneon the Forum will have a 'best answer'.Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by chadwickz71Found this unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-CS6-C...item2c72561b07
Reply:If drilling to layout/punch, I prefer a Heinrich (style) "quick vise" with bar out the back to prevent injury due to rotation.  Clamp it in the vise, put bar against column, and move it easily around lining up as I go.  But you do NOT want to do that by simply holding the vise.  Both my 20" Powermatic and 20" Wilton VSG (NOS US made, not the newer import garbage) will put some serious hurt on you quick.If drilling by dimensions, I use the Bridgeport or a standard cross slide table bolted to the drill table.  I prefer a simple cross slide table to a cross slide vise due to greater flexibility.  I can bolt something to the table t-slots, or I can bolt one of my vises (like the quick vise) to the slots, and I also have an old sprung 4 jaw 8" Cushman (freebie!) that I sometimes bolt down to use like a vise.New Wilton tools are just like Jacobs and so many others.  They are just names stuck on common cheap import tools with inflated prices by MBAs who bought the name and are "leveraging the brand" to make their bonuses.  No thanks...
Reply:I actually used my vise this weekend for the first time.I don't know the exact jaw width of mine but I would call it 3"... the one on the link looks dimensionally the same as mine.I did not even take the time to set the vice up right on the table but will do it next time just to see if it is even marginally accurate which I am thinking it will be fairly far off. I wanted these holes to be of good accuracy. I would just drill a hole, open the vice get the next hole as close as I could, re-tighten and use the vise to make the final adjustment. I did expect locking the slides would move the hole a little but there was no movement.I think for what the op wants to do there is just too much restrictions on the part size and range of movement. If you need to drill many holes in a small space I think it would be ok. I think I would want a dedicated drill press for it if it is accurate enough to take the time to set up on the table but then if you change your table height a lot it will take a lot of your time re-setting it up.
Reply:I finally got tired of moving the thing and gave it away. Easiest way to make a lot of holes that need to be repeated, is to clamp a stop onto the table. If you need to make them that have a lot of holes with same spacing you can put a stop on your stop that lines up with the hole you last drilled.
Reply:I know that rumors get started that may not have a shred of truth.......but I have been told that "Wilton" vises where the name Wilton is painted on a separate tag riveted to the vise, are not made in the USA and are simply imported stuff that is renamed and sold as Wilton by Walter Meier.To get a US made Wilton look for the name Wilton to be part of the casting right from the mold, not nailed or glued on.Anybody else heard this?
Reply:I thought all new Wilton stuff was made over seas.  I know my big 20" Wilton VSG is among the last of the Wilton power tools made in the US ("Made in USA" cast right in the head casting).Back on the vise topic, try to remember that drilling is far from a precision operation.  I've been down this road for many years, and other than aligning a fixture, a cross slide table just isn't that practical.  It will take you far less time to just layout the lines and punch the locations, then drill in a simple rotational restraint positioned by hand.  I've got a fairly large cross slide for my big drill presses, but other than for remounting fixtures OR dealing with heavy stuff hard to move accurately, I would never consider fooling with it for day to day work.