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I'm trying to figure out how to make a continuous hog fence from 3/4 sucker rods and telephone poles or regular fence post's. All I really need is about three or four foot of height but some sort of pattern that I can put welded wire on the sucker rod or attach used conveyor belting. I have somewhere around 2500 feet of fence to make and I'm looking for the cheapest, strongest, most durable fence I can cobble from sucker rods. I have found 3/4 sucker rods on sale for about $16 per stick and rolls of 2x4x36" x 100ft 12Ga welded wire for $77 per roll now how could I build a super tough fence that I could attach the welded wire or used conveyor belting
Reply:If you're using telephone poles, they make clips for sucker rod, you could screw the sucker rod together, use lag bolts on the clips put the sucker rod up at the heights you want, wire the welded wire to it. If you want to use T posts, you could always weld the clips to them.
Reply:Are you located in a warm climate ? Are you going to weld in place as you go ? How long is the sucker rod ? I would prefab sucker rod frames depending on how long the rod is and if you have a means to move and set at location. Tractor with loader or skid steer will make life easier. Did you price out 16' long hog/cattle panels in your area ? These will be more money but are 4 and 5 gauge and may make fabricating easier. http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...h?cm_vc=-10005http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...ft-l-x-34-in-h
Reply:Hog panels are too expensive, I'm in Va and the rods I found were $14 for a 25ft stick. I was planning on using a tractor and a jig to build the sections then bolt them to the post and weld the joints.
Reply:Belting will add a lot of weight and will act like a sail in the wind. Can you insulate the panels you are going to build and light them up with a good fence charger. Dan
Reply:how do you figure a $22 panel for 16 foot (1.37 a foot) is more expensive than rods and rolled woven wire fence. I do not know how long your rods are, but my guess is your thinking of putting up more than one rod, and the fence wire at $77 @100 or 77 cents a foot, (I see your rods are 25 foot, so at $14 each that is .56 a foot, so you use two rods that is $1.12 cents and tie the wire on it @77 cents that comes up to that is $1.89 a foot, and then the extra labor to build it, even if only one rod, that is $.56 for rods and $.77 for rolled woven wire, that is still $1.26 a foot you would save $.11 cents a foot for a lot of labor, and IMO an inferior fence, and I would think if you are going to use the rod you would want a top middle and bottom rod to support the woven wire fence, one other thing is the panels are easily resalable with little loss on an auction, if that ever become a need, rolls of old wire are much harder to recoup the cost at an auction, that 2x4 welded wire rolls is a very flimsy fence wire, I put some up around some bushes, and it has little strength, works in the yard to keep the little goats off, but I would not trust it to keep hogs in,
Reply:besides your corral area or working area, one could consider a mulity wire eclectic fence. http://www.zarebasystems.com/learnin...livestock/hogshttps://www.tractorsupply.com/know-h...predator-fenceI use a lot of electric fence for cattle I have about 5 miles of it out right now, and I hear it works well for pigs, if you do have trouble you can train the animals by having a electric fence inside a corral that has a woven wire or hog panels, about a foot from the panel fence, that and put them in there for a few days before turning them out in a large area,
Reply:Originally Posted by Farmerboyhow do you figure a $22 panel for 16 foot (1.37 a foot) is more expensive than rods and rolled woven wire fence.
Reply:Use the 16 foot panels and cut them down the middle. I f you have baler belting or conveyor belt put it at the bottom. Still going to have to bury something to keep them from rooting out underneath. Make 2'x16' panels with your sucker rod so you can move or sell them if you have to. Sucker rod over here is $6 a stick for 3/4" ouch!Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:I have hogs. I bought the 16' panels to fasten on my horizontal pipe pen dividers . Great to work with and is so much neater and cleaner looking. I tried some woven wire and it was unacceptable to me. Th 4 gauge is pretty stout and lays flat.
Reply:My main problem is if little pigs escape from the farrowing house I don't want them to escape from the perimeter fence. I had some hogs earlier this year and I had zero problems with the big ones trying to dig out but the little ones would bull doze under the woven wire. I had electric along the bottom of my woven wire fence but the hogs buried the hot wire. Ideally if I could build a nice solid fence I would put insulators and hot wires on top of it. Something else I was considering was possibly taking big pine logs and placing them in a trench behind my solid fence to prevent rooting. I'm really not concerned about larger pigs rooting out I mean it's kinda hard for something over 50lbs to dig a hole big enough to wiggle out under a solid steel bar without being caught. Electric fencing alone works wonders BUT it takes a hell of allot of work to maintain the fence line with pigs since they have a tendency to bury the wires and short out the system. I am planning on building a tighter hog lot inside of my perimeter for farrowing sows and containing dozens of little piglets that will escape through the smallest opening. What I'm thinking with conveyor belting is finding some that's around 42in wide or so and bury half of it with a supporting framework built behind it with the sucker rod.Last edited by black_doggy; 12-22-2013 at 09:01 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by black_doggyMy main problem is if little pigs escape from the farrowing house I don't want them to escape from the perimeter fence. I had some hogs earlier this year and I had zero problems with the big ones trying to dig out but the little ones would bull doze under the woven wire. I had electric along the bottom of my woven wire fence but the hogs buried the hot wire. Ideally if I could build a nice solid fence I would put insulators and hot wires on top of it. Something else I was considering was possibly taking big pine logs and placing them in a trench behind my solid fence to prevent rooting. I'm really not concerned about larger pigs rooting out I mean it's kinda hard for something over 50lbs to dig a hole big enough to wiggle out under a solid steel bar without being caught. Electric fencing alone works wonders BUT it takes a hell of allot of work to maintain the fence line with pigs since they have a tendency to bury the wires and short out the system. I am planning on building a tighter hog lot inside of my perimeter for farrowing sows and containing dozens of little piglets that will escape through the smallest opening. What I'm thinking with conveyor belting is finding some that's around 2ft wide or so an put it along the bottom with a supporting framework built behind it with the sucker rod.
Reply:I have mine on concrete. What about pouring a pad to butt up to the farrowing house ? I guess it depends how many pigs we are talkin.
Reply:Cat's are easier to herd than pigs... pigs are like trying to herd chipmunks. Electric fence will not work six inches off the ground because they will bury it.
Reply:Originally Posted by black_doggyCat's are easier to herd than pigs... pigs are like trying to herd chipmunks. Electric fence will not work six inches off the ground because they will bury it.
Reply:I'm seeing massive rolls (20,000lb) rolls of 48in wide 1000+ft conveyor belting that would be perfect for fencing but I would have no clue how to unroll and set that heavy mess into place.
Reply:See if you can buddy up with somebody at a feed mill. They MIGHT have bias ply belting they've changed out. Might be a bit lighter than the stuff from the quarry.Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:Unfortunately for me there really isn't any source of cheap supplies or feed around here and if I can line up the correct ducks I can haul in steel and belting and resell some of it to offset my cost's. Most everything I need for my construction projects is dirt cheap BUT 2-300 miles or more away. Most everything made out of metal was snapped up by the local crack heads and no one around here really knows about buying and selling used industrial materials. |
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