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In SuperArc's thread, he mentioned two stinger's from one machine. Friday, I was driving, and seen a fence company truck with two leads attached to the pos terminal on a Miller Wildcat. Can you run two stingers at the same time, from the same welder? I really can't think of any other reason for having this."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:That would require some sort of splitter that would allow for separate amperage control. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to weld at the same time or they would have to perfectly coordinate their starts and stops. Just my thoughts on the theory of it...GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:I would not think you could successfully do any meaningful welding with 2 going simultaneously. For instance, welding with 2 of 1/8" electrodes going at the same time would be sorta like welding with a single 1/4" electrode as far as amperage requirement.But trying to coordinate 2 weldors to be doing the exact same thing at the same time would be nothing less than a miracle.But if the leads are run out to allow 2 weldors to use a single welder in alternating stints, that would be very possible, practical even.This isn't some kind of trick question, is it?
Reply:Could be two guys, each holding one end of a piece of steel, wanting to tack their end without having to walk the stinger down to the other guy (taking turns though).Not welding at the same time, just less walking around. If that's what they are doing with the double cable, I bet it works fine.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Left-hand vs. right-hand electrode holder.  Maybe one is shorter/lighter for close-in work.  Don't really want to be welding a lot with a long cable wound up tight due to heat buildup. Or maybe a helper can reposition one lead while the welder uses the other."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Ah, two welders taking turns, now that makes sense. I've never seen or noticed this ever before, and SuperArc's thread reminded me to post it up."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Years ago I was on a job that had a rental engine drive. Supposedly you could run two stingers on it for SMAW, but not for wire feed work. Can't remember the name, but it was orange. I remember you could be standing right next to the machine and not know it was running unless you opened the door and seen the fan rotating, or look at the exhaust. I think it had an Isuzu diesel engine in it.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I used to enjoy shop and job site noises. Now I prefer quiet."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Wasnt a whisper weld was it?Miller ab/p 330Hobart champ 16Miller 140Lincoln Power Mig 255Lincoln SA-250
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPYears ago I was on a job that had a rental engine drive. Supposedly you could run two stingers on it for SMAW, but not for wire feed work. Can't remember the name, but it was orange. I remember you could be standing right next to the machine and not know it was running unless you opened the door and seen the fan rotating, or look at the exhaust. I think it had an Isuzu diesel engine in it.
Reply:Originally Posted by j440Wasnt a whisper weld was it?
Reply:One of theses welders?http://www.multiquip.com/multiquip/DLW400ESA.htmDave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveOne of theses welders?http://www.multiquip.com/multiquip/DLW400ESA.htm
Reply:I see multiquip stuff for sale around here once and a while. Always wondered if they were any good or if parts were hard to get. About half the ones I see for sale are nice looking but broken.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI see multiquip stuff for sale around here once and a while. Always wondered if they were any good or if parts were hard to get. About half the ones I see for sale are nice looking but broken.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI don't really remember how it welded. I was running 5/64-inch Hobart 21-B welding pre-cast concrete deck panels. The deck panels had an embedded galvanized angle iron. We made a 1/2-inch fillet weld, 6 on 12 to a galvanized steel beam. 70-pounds of wire a day for months!
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPThat does look like it, except the one I used was orange. I think it was 1989 when I used one. A lot of welders have come and gone since then.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveAs long as it was outside I'd be ok with that though
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPAren't they always outside?
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixit I got it just after my AEAD200LE went down on me.
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelMan! Those things have all the bells and whistles!!!  I'll go back to standing in the corner now...
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPYears ago I was on a job that had a rental engine drive. Supposedly you could run two stingers on it for SMAW, but not for wire feed work. Can't remember the name, but it was orange. I remember you could be standing right next to the machine and not know it was running unless you opened the door and seen the fan rotating, or look at the exhaust. I think it had an Isuzu diesel engine in it.
Reply:one of my co-workers who used to work for a small structural company told me about splitting leads on large buildings. as somebody said earlier, just to avoid walking around. too cheap to buy two machines I guess.I guess it could be somewhat economical, one welds while the other is de-slagging. . . .could workbosses stuff:trailblazer 325maxstar 200my stuff:sa 200fronius transpocket 180100 amp Lincoln w/f97 f350 DITKevin
Reply:Yeah we use the multiquip/whisper welds all the time. You can run 2 leads off of it, but its not split. They weld good, I never had a problem. Definitely quite too, could easily have a conversation standing next to one. Id like to pick one up one day, even for my home generator.. Wouldn't even know its on, lol
Reply:I know about the Miller Duo Op, but again, this guy had two leads coming from one positive stud, on a Miller Wildcat."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"