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Anyone ever built bypass gates, like sliding closet doors where you can only open one at a time. Reason is for a two lane driveway with no room to either side and too close to the street for swinging gates.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:Sounds like it would work. Trying to keep people from getting to your vehicles?Miller Pro 300 SS w/ cat Miller Bobcat 250Miller Diversion 165 Miller 211Miller Xtreme 375Miller 12vsMiller Dynasty 200 DX Miller Passport Plus w/ Spool GunMiller 30a spoolmaticLincoln AC225 Buzz Box VictorMathey Dearman - H&M
Reply:Originally Posted by grindelSounds like it would work. Trying to keep people from getting to your vehicles?
Reply:bigbThere are other hinge, and panel translation optionsthan one might imagine.Please post a print, or detailed description of your constraints.Opus
Reply:Have you considered an overhead door?
Reply:The hedge to the right is the property line, to the left is a raised cactus garden which extends out past where the gates need to be. The scumbag in the middle is checking the doors for us at 4:30 in the morning .No where to put an overhead door. No room to swing them in, cars in the way, can't swing them out without blocking sidewalk and part of street.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:Here's another one in Feb. Also notice the Toyota changed into an Infiniti.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:I got it. Imagine an overhead garage door, on it's side, so it rolls up on the hedge side, but unrolls towards the cactus side or something. A simple series of bars attached with hinges like a rollup garage door would do it, right?Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Who are these guys? I would post that video up on the local news!Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Originally Posted by Joker11Who are these guys? I would post that video up on the local news!
Reply:How about a 6' deep slit trench and have a nice section of spiked fence rise up out of the ground.  Put a flip up spring loaded cover over the trench that closes when the fence is lowered.  You'd need one heavy steel post on the shrubbery side to house the guide rail, chain and remote controlled motor housing.  I adapted a regular garage door opener to work my security gate.Miller Syncrowave 350Millermatic 252/ 30A spoolgunMiller Bobcat 225g w/ 3545 spoolgunLincoln PowerArc4000Lincoln 175 Mig  Lincoln 135 Mig Everlast 250EX TigCentury ac/dc 230 amp stickVictor O/AHypertherm 1000 plasma
Reply:Are you in a HOA?
Reply:When your alarm goes off do you have some seriously bright lights come on to flood the driveway?For a gate that takes very little room how about using cables that can be rolled up and some kind of vertical post running on a track in the driveway to pull them across?Miller Syncrowave 180SDLincoln WeldPak 100 with gasHandheld Milwaukee BandsawO/A Cutting Torch
Reply:I doubt it would work for your situation, but I have built some electric sliding gates with one way spiked teeth for the exit.  People can still put boards over the teeth to get in though.
Reply:A bummer about the bypass doors is you would not be able to have an electric operator.Have you thought about a gate that tips up on the end. It could be operated by a screw jack or a hydraulic cylinder. Attached ImagesIan TannerKawasaki KX450 and many other fine tools
Reply:I think I'd rig up a reciprocating sprinkler system to motion detectors.  People here use them to deter deer."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:If you are looking to keep the people out then yes a "gate" would be your best option.... But you have to keep in mind that if you are trying to keep people out of your property you will need a big gate or something with razor-wire or the like built in. Any small gate will only serve to make the perp hop over it before they steal your ride. If you are looking to keep the cars from being stolen I would install some "bollards". You can almost install them with only a power auger and a few bags of pre-mixed cement from home depot. They have many models from ones that drop in and get locked in place to electric/air/hydro powered pop-ups... From the visual impact standpoint I think that would be your best bet.
Reply:I can see it now. Motion detecting popup paintball turrets with the flood lights and sprinklers coming on at the same time. all on video too. the perps dancing as they are getting hit with water, paint balls and high powered spotlights. it'll be a Youtube censation!I like the tip up gate that fourtyone suggested (I would have if he hadn't) it could designed so that the pivot point is in the raise cactus bed and would be able to still look really nice.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:You could just connect some very bright lights to your alarm system so they would come on whenever anyone entered your driveway. Crack heads don't like bright lights as it implies that people can see who they are. Your pictures will be better too. I would at least try this before spending money on gates. If it doesn't work, you could add the lawn sprinklers that were already suggested. Bright lights and water should make them go try someone else's driveway. Somewhere on Youtube I saw an auto firing paint ball machine gun and thaught it would be a great crack head deterant, but it looked expensive to build. Having paint ball blotches all over your cars wouldn't be good either.Try the easier, less expensive methods first. CharleyMiller MM252Miller Bobcat 225NTMiller DialArc HF / DIY Cooler2 Victor O/A TorchsetsMilwaukee 8" Metal SawMilwaukee Dry Cut "Chop" Saw 5 Ton Wallace Gantry Various Grinders, Benders, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by fortyonethirtyA bummer about the bypass doors is you would not be able to have an electric operator.Have you thought about a gate that tips up on the end. It could be operated by a screw jack or a hydraulic cylinder.
Reply:I know the feeling. Its sucks I have had 3 power machine stolen have it all on video and there's nothing that can be done they can't even look. Unless you get lucky and the cop who does the report knows them.Miller Pro 300 SS w/ cat Miller Bobcat 250Miller Diversion 165 Miller 211Miller Xtreme 375Miller 12vsMiller Dynasty 200 DX Miller Passport Plus w/ Spool GunMiller 30a spoolmaticLincoln AC225 Buzz Box VictorMathey Dearman - H&M
Reply:QUOTE=CharleyL;1518481]You could just connect some very bright lights to your alarm system so they would come on whenever anyone entered your driveway. Crack heads don't like bright lights as it implies that people can see who they are. Your pictures will be better too. I would at least try this before spending money on gates. If it doesn't work, you could add the lawn sprinklers that were already suggested. Bright lights and water should make them go try someone else's driveway. Somewhere on Youtube I saw an auto firing paint ball machine gun and thaught it would be a great crack head deterant, but it looked expensive to build. Having paint ball blotches all over your cars wouldn't be good either.Try the easier, less expensive methods first. Charley[/QUOTE]The bright lights is a good idea.  The sprinkler is another good idea, but I would not want it to trigger on someone other than an unwanted intruder and booby traps aren't very selective.The paint ball gun could be problematic as a dangerous bobby trap. If the crack head happened to be looking in the direction of the gun when it triggerd and a paint ball smacked him (or her) in the eye you coud be liable for injuries that your insurance carrier will likely not cover.-  MondoMember, AWSLincoln ProMIG 140Lincoln AC TombstoneCraftsman Lathe 12 x 24 c1935Atlas MFC Horizontal MillCraftsman Commercial Lathe 12 x 36 c1970- - - I'll just keep on keepin' on.
Reply:Hi:Would these work?http://www.tiltaway.com/index.htmlJeff
Reply:Originally Posted by bigbThey are crack heads.The cops don't even have time to bother with this kind of stuff. We are pretty much on our own unless it is a murder or armed robbery. Lots of burglaries happening too. That's why I got cameras and alarm. I have a driveway sensor that alerts me when someone is out there, so I always know immediately. Just not allowed to shoot at them. Last week a punk squirted "grafitti" all over the cars with a bottle of hot sauce at 2:00 AM! Eventually something worse will happen and I'd like to get the gate before it does. Plus I am getting tired of being woke up in the middle of the night by the driveway sensor, which rings a bell on my night stand.The street is very nice with well kept brick homes, so asthetics is very important here.
Reply:Originally Posted by jbaHi:Would these work?http://www.tiltaway.com/index.htmlJeffOriginally Posted by bigbThey are crack heads.The cops don't even have time to bother with this kind of stuff. We are pretty much on our own unless it is a murder or armed robbery. Lots of burglaries happening too. That's why I got cameras and alarm. I have a driveway sensor that alerts me when someone is out there, so I always know immediately. Just not allowed to shoot at them. Last week a punk squirted "grafitti" all over the cars with a bottle of hot sauce at 2:00 AM! Eventually something worse will happen and I'd like to get the gate before it does. Plus I am getting tired of being woke up in the middle of the night by the driveway sensor, which rings a bell on my night stand.The street is very nice with well kept brick homes, so asthetics is very important here.
Reply:Might be able to get away with a Bi-Fold gatehttp://www.amcsecurity.com/pdfs/Bi_fold_Gates.pdfhttp://www.amcsecurity.com/GATES/-_B...old_gates.htmlgets rid of having a Pole in the middle of the driveway to support a Pocket gatehere's another Speed gatehttp://www.automationgate.com/produc...a7eb1004d565b9Last edited by Broccoli1; 08-28-2012 at 04:17 PM.Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
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Reply:A storage place I used had a lifting type gate. The pickets were on pivots so that as the gate raised the top bar raised and the pickets swung and then the whole gate was about a foot or so wide in the up position. The gate was moved by a hydraulic cylinder. The bottom rail also had pivots on each picket to keep the fence in position. It worked very well and had a spike top to keep someone from climbing it.
Reply:Don't really want to be pissing anyone off or open myself to liability. I do have a portable rain bird which I fastened to a board and connected the valve to a wireless remote. We have a lot of cats coming around so at night I keep the dvr monitor open in the corner of my screen when I am working at the computer. When a cat comes by the movement catches my eye and I grab the remote and blast it.I have thought about the lifting gate, as well as one buried in the ground. Also about a bi fold, which might work too. Something 5 or 6 feet tall, just to make them not want to bother. These people are for the most part lazy and I don't think they would jump into the yard, besides it would make them feel trapped. If I go with bypass gates I would just open one manually in the morning and lock it up at night. Both cars never get used at once anyway, they are my wife's and my trucks are kept in a garage on the other side of the house.Thanks for all the ideas. Brocolli those are some great links.As far as moving I am not ready to let the crooks win. We are in an ideal location especially with my business, central and convienent to every part of town. And where would I go? Thieves and crack heads seem to be every where, unless you move to the country which just won't work for me. No, I am going to stay and stand my ground.Last edited by bigb; 08-28-2012 at 09:21 PM.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:Originally Posted by grindelWhere at in az are you?
Reply:bigbSorry about your night friends.Where your barrier has to be is an unusual site/foot-printto work within.I have never seen what I'm going to describe, it just cameto mind from the site conditions in your photos.Imagine a pergola that spans your drive-way by day, andactuates to become a gate by night.  It could have panels somewhat like a garage door, or it could be a single plane.Of course, it has to be mostly open air, architecturally appropriate, and well designed and detailed.  The key to viability is simplicity.  Good designed doesn't mean over engineered.You're on this forum because you're a handy guy, look around for influences and start designing.OpusLast edited by OPUS FERRO; 08-28-2012 at 09:39 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by OPUS FERRObigb ... I have never seen what I'm going to describe ... Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by OPUS FERRObigbSorry about your night friends.Where your barrier has to be is an unusual site/foot-printto work within.I have never seen what I'm going to describe, it just cameto mind from the site conditions in your photos.Imagine a pergola that spans your drive-way by day, andactuates to become a gate by night.  It could have panels somewhat like a garage door, or it could be a single plane.Of course, it has to be mostly open air, architecturally appropriate, and well designed and detailed.  The key to viability is simplicity.  Good designed doesn't mean over engineered.You're on this forum because you're a handy guy, look around for influences and start designing.Opus
Reply:There should be some bug zapper technology available for this. Ya know, no real body parts just some crispy flakes left over that could be hosed off in the morning. "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:That really is a bummer to say the least.  I hate crooks just as much as the next guy, but the laws usually protect the bad guys somehow.  Since you already have the camera's why not make one of them very visible?  They might think twice if they can actually see a camera pointing in that direction.   Just a thought.---No good deed goes unpunished---
Reply:I like how you worked that out with the wife. Her cars are out in the weather and easy got get to and the work truck is in the garage. I don't care who you are, up here, that S don't fly. Maybe I should move south? lol.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Tell Florida to let George Zimmerman out; you guys need him bad !!!!!Good luck..
Reply:Sorry to see you're still having these problems. Broc beat me to the bi-fold idea. Folds compact and isn't too complex(= headaches). Another though would be double tip ups. Less weight than trying to lift one full span one from one side. I would go at least 6' but IMHO, 7' would be better. Just a thought, the byfold gate would naturally be "wobbly" to a degree( play in the hinges plus the track. This could be taken advantage of with brass bells attached to the gate. Anyone touches the gate or tries to climb, they'll cause a clamor and probably piss off. Malinois that lives in a dog house by the house. Chain lets him get right to the end of the drive. Probably have to clean **** stains off yer driveway once in a while, but you'll chuckle while doing so.   And yes, generally junkies won't put out much effort if there's an easier target down the street. I'm liking the guard dog myself. Cheap and fail proof if well trained.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:About 20 percent of the houses on my street have gated front yards/driveways. These people never have anyone bother their stuff at night, some of the gates are a mere 5 feet. Too much bother and too risky I think is why they don't jump over them.We did have 3 kids trash the neighborhood one morning at 4:00 AM, tipping over BBQ grills and smashing flower pots. These guys DID jump into peoples BACK yards to tip over their BBQ grills. Funny thing is I got clear video of them smashing one of our pots. The cops were called, nothing happened. A neighbor told the cops where one of the kids lives, the cop took a slow drive by the kids house and that's it, nothing happened.I posted the video on the neighborhood association email and several days later they all appeared at my front door with the father of one of the boys. They apologized and had a list they were taking door to door tallying up the damages in order to pay everyone back. Everyone agreed to have them do that as well as clean up the alley/wash on the weekend.Point is in the bigger cities you are on your own when it comes to non-violent crimes.My cameras are not hidden, they are in plain sight and several of them are pretty big, professional units, but no one seems to notice them, or the signs warning of them. I do have to keep them mounted high out of reach, so they would have to look up, but no one does.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:Nice to at least here of a parent giving enough of a chit about his kids to make them account  for their deeds. Kids out to have some "fun" are a whole different animal than the local junkies and petty thieves. I just saw on a local auction site something that made me think of you. It was a set of those corrugating or accordianing, what ever they're called, security gates. Like the ones they use inside malls to secure the store fronts. These ones had a wheel on each end to support it and they met and locked in the middle. They collapse down to nothing and are light and easy to operate. Just another option. Also, is there a reason not to have two sided gates swing out to the sidewalk? other than you couldn't leave them open, but if they were powered, you wouldn't need to.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.