Vertical Overhead angles

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Okay, I have a question and hopefully it makes since. I'm at TWS, Phase 2 wk2, and we are working on vertical Overhead T plates.The thing that gets me is the angles we are working with and the overlap.Can someone tell me if this is right?The colored lines are the approximate rod angles I was told.Last edited by neuralsnafu; 05-09-2014 at 09:33 PM.Reason: left out some information.
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Reply:Mostly just getting the correct overlap. Everything seems to stack up wrongSent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Reply:The aprox angles shown are correct. On my first pass, I like to aim my electrode more to the top and pull the puddle down with a slight movement of the electrode. Much like the projected angle you have shown. Gravity and arc force can work for you and against you in this type of weld.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Cool. Thanks for the help  now to print this off at 3x the size and hang it in my booth lol
Reply:angles are the same wheather it's overhead or flat.............ABSOLUTELY ZERO difference...........except for the crap falling on you6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderangles are the same wheather it's overhead or flat.............ABSOLUTELY ZERO difference...........except for the crap falling on you
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderangles are the same wheather it's overhead or flat.............ABSOLUTELY ZERO difference...........except for the crap falling on you
Reply:Here is another question regarding overhead. What should the travel angle be?  Pretty close to vertical? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Reply:I like dead straight.1/8 7018 at 135amps.Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by neuralsnafuHere is another question regarding overhead. What should the travel angle be?  Pretty close to vertical? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderangles are the same wheather it's overhead or flat.............ABSOLUTELY ZERO difference...........except for the crap falling on you
Reply:Nope...........it would be the same.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderNope...........it would be the same.
Reply:I read the puddle, I don't carry a protractor around....................I've seen welds on warships and was NOT impressed.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderI read the puddle, I don't carry a protractor around....................I've seen welds on warships and was NOT impressed.
Reply:As to the last sketch, if your vertical metal is thinner than the horizontal I tend to direct the rod to the thicker piece. But ya overhead same as flat.... did some 7014 overhead with the same hot settings as flat,,,, it looked Purdy. practice practice practice TOOLS AND TOYSSMAW Mid States Inc. "MISSING LINK" 10-150 AMP Buzzer circa 1945ishSMAW Magic Wand 40-60 AMP Suitcase Buzzer circa 1939ishGMAW Hobart 210 IronmanOxy-Propane TorchMany other old and cold goodies"Rusty but Trusty"
Reply:Thanks for the help guys! Managed to eek out a good visual inspection for class.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Reply:neuralsnafu Open Question . . .Regardless of rod angle, there is a limit to defying gravity.Stringer order - I need to know?I have always welded overhead fillets by inverting 2-3, and 4-5-6.I weld top to bottom, because of the inherent shoulder provided by gravity.  Top to bottom provides a shallow [sweeter] oblique angle fillet: surface to crest - crest open, and crest to surface.I find this much more controllable then bottom to top, and produces an over-all smoother multi-pass fillet.What am I doing wrong per code?Opus
Reply:This is a very helpful video....Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopThis is a very helpful video....