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发表于 2021-8-31 23:10:41 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Hi guys. Started a new job about 3 months ago and my boss buys a brand new AC/DC TIG welder for me to use.Only problem he is a cheapo and bought a Chinese unit. It is a disaster theirs so many things wrong with it I don't even want to list them.I used a Miller Syncrowave for 4 years before this and a Kemppi Mastertig 3500 for 4 years. I can't work with this.Ok. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can make this machine fail? Permanently?Need some electrical sabotage advice.I want to just say    "boss, it doesn't work. Buy a Kemppi or a Miller"I have to finish it without making it look like sabotage.What if I flick it from AC to DC back and forth at 200 amps. Will that damage it? While hacking the HF trigger and sticking the tungsten?Any ideas welcomeLast edited by porkncheese; 05-23-2014 at 06:08 AM.
Reply:Why waste his money by ruining it in a way that may void the warranty?Call the company and tell them it doesn't work - make them fix it or take it back.Best thing is figuring out what language your boss understands, talking about lost money and extra hours may do it.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:He doesn't care. He wont call them.The torch cable is only 2 meters and the earth cable 1 meter. I pull the earth off the MIG and join em.The machine has pulse but only up to 50 Hz. It starts at 5 Hz. What's the point with such an inconvenient range.The AC balance doesn't work. Doesn't help with various types of aluminium140 amps is really about only 100 amps.Slope down/crate fill doesn't work. Makes ending a weld difficult on aluminium. Especially out of position.4T doesn't work. Which I prefer to useHF start will just buzz sometimes without initiating the arc.The torch gets so hot welding aluminium because its not water cooled.It is a machine for a hobby welder in a garage.Not in an industrial environment.I need to destroy it without voiding the warranty. Good point
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Ethics and sabotage don't generally mix.I expect this to go south in a hurry.Carry on
Reply:There are shortcomings in business purchasing. One employee begs for a tool, a manager brings the subject up to his boss. The process rarely is quick. Eventually a upper level manager approves a purchase. Than, a secretary is directed to find the lowest price available. After it has passed through so many levels of indifferent, uninformed people the specifications read something like: Welder TIG. As they buy the cheapest, don't expect miracles.
Reply:So the machine is a POS. That should not stop you from doing the best work you can with it. It will probably wear out on it's own anyway as all equipment does. Some faster than others. Try your best to make money for the boss so he can upgrade later. You show him your best work, point out in a friendly and knowledeable manner what the shortcommings are, and the benefits and ROI of an updgrade.First maybe suggest a water cooled torch and cooler for the POS to increase productivity, but suggest a quality cooler as not to burn up too many power cables. A good domestic unit using a Procon pump will work very well with an upgraded welder.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Keep using it. It will fail.www.tjsperformance.comDynasty 300 DXHTP 240HTP Microcut 380Hyperthem 85JD2 Hyd Bender and HF Hyd Ring Roller all in one =(Frankenbender)Bpt. Mill/DRO4' x 8' CNC Plasma TableInstagram: tjsperformanceYT: TJS Welding and Fabrication
Reply:Or just drag up and tell him where to put his POS machine. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe offer correct, cheap and fast. Pick two.Weldanpower G800XMT 304Syncrowave 250Millermatic 135Maxstar 91Heliwelder 4A/DDR 224/HPA/BHFT Plasma
Reply:Originally Posted by WTFnOObOr just drag up and tell him where to put his POS machine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:You didn't mention the brand, but have you tried calling in service for it yourself?
Reply:Man up, and tell the boss, that you won't work anymore.Make him look you in the eye.Get his attention.Lay down the rules.Works for me when I'm sick of doing junk work.~JohnJust a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopMan up, and tell the boss, that you won't work anymore.Make him look you in the eye.Get his attention.Lay down the rules.Works for me when I'm sick of doing junk work.~John
Reply:Well I can help you with the hot torch. Pad your gloves where you feel heat from the torch. Keep welding as it is smoking. Hello the boss you are doing as much as possible to increase productivity but the collets just keep mushung out as you try to keep the tungsten from falling out.Ask for a nice leather torch cable cover from HTP/usaweld, so the hot cable does not burn your skin. Turn you post flow up to cool the torch and cable and ask for bigger tanks to deal with the increase in gas usage.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonSo the machine is a POS. That should not stop you from doing the best work you can with it.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonAnd then promptly get fired. I think he should follow the advice you have in your signature.
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopIt was just my 2 cents.Treat it like you would any 2 cents.I don't do shoddy work.I tell the owner, or customer that I won't do certain things....Tell them...~John
Reply:Ok thanks guys.@ Ngray. The brand of the unit is "Rossi"Looks like I will just have to continue using it and hope it fails soon.
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