Fluxcore gas in a bottle?

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My auto mechanics teacher just recently fixed the fluxcore welder at school and he was tellin me bout somethin like this.. idk if he was serious, or stupid. I have a flucore at home, i thought the idea of fluxcore was to act like gas? i can usually get clean welds, but when I dont if this stuff works id get some.... does anyone know what it is? or if its real? haha
Reply:There is some electrode that is flux core and also uses a shielding gas--------it's called dualshield and you can buy it at any welding supply store6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:ok. Thanks
Reply:I'm glad you understood what he was asking, because I don't have a damn clue.Have we all gone mad?
Reply:they have it it comes in co2 or argon co2 blends350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:what happens if you do use gas with flux core wire?
Reply:Originally Posted by andcon83what happens if you do use gas with flux core wire?
Reply:Originally Posted by andcon83what happens if you do use gas with flux core wire?
Reply:Originally Posted by Fat BastardYou piss money out the end of the gun.
Reply:ha its alright. i just didnt think the guy knew what he was talkin bout. ill just stick to my regular fluxcore. cause i do just fine with it.
Reply:Originally Posted by Catfisherha its alright. i just didnt think the guy knew what he was talkin bout. ill just stick to my regular fluxcore. cause i do just fine with it.
Reply:LMAO,Yeah, I want to see his results running dual shield on (what I suspect is a) 120v fluxcore welder.I think some posters use this FORUM as their ONLY source of information.How the he11 did anyone learn to weld before there was an internet?Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Flux core "innershield" is the stuff you guys seem to use, probably ok for home or hobby use because it negates the use of shielding gas which saves money. Have only seen it used in the trade a couple of times welding outdoors at ports where it's quite windy. Results aren't as good as dualshield fluxcore. Runs on DCENFlux core "dualshield" uses shielding gas and produces a smooth flat weld in all positions. Runs on DCEP. Good for medium-heavy fab, I'd rather use mild steel mig wire for anything under 6mm (1/4"). Use it a lot at work.If I was to go to the trouble of buying gas for home, I'd use mild steel mig wire over dual shield wire anyway. More versatile, can weld pretty much anything any thickness with 0.9mm mild steel mig wire
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIILMAO,Yeah, I want to see his results running dual shield on (what I suspect is a) 120v fluxcore welder.I think some posters use this FORUM as their ONLY source of information.How the he11 did anyone learn to weld before there was an internet?
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIILMAO,Yeah, I want to see his results running dual shield on (what I suspect is a) 120v fluxcore welder.I think some posters use this FORUM as their ONLY source of information.How the he11 did anyone learn to weld before there was an internet?
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderThere is some electrode that is flux core and also uses a shielding gas--------it's called dualshield and you can buy it at any welding supply store
Reply:Originally Posted by CamAusFlux core "innershield" is the stuff you guys seem to use, probably ok for home or hobby use because it negates the use of shielding gas which saves money. Have only seen it used in the trade a couple of times welding outdoors at ports where it's quite windy. Results aren't as good as dualshield fluxcore. Runs on DCENFlux core "dualshield" uses shielding gas and produces a smooth flat weld in all positions. Runs on DCEP. Good for medium-heavy fab, I'd rather use mild steel mig wire for anything under 6mm (1/4"). Use it a lot at work.If I was to go to the trouble of buying gas for home, I'd use mild steel mig wire over dual shield wire anyway. More versatile, can weld pretty much anything any thickness with 0.9mm mild steel mig wire
Reply:Use the 'right' filler with the 'right' parameters (including the shielding gas, if applicable) for the job and things (usually) turn out OK.Do things 'wrong' and the task often turns out wrong.FCAW-S is self-shielded fluxcore wire.  AKA 'innershield' (in Lincoln-speak)FCAW-G is gas-shielded fluxcore wire.  AKA 'dual-shield'.  Most 'small' or home-type machines do not have the correct voltage/amperage outputs (or raw power, or drive rollers, or liner/tip diameters, etc) to run those types of wires.Dual-shield (FCAW-G) wire with a 120V input 90 amp machine?  Not very likely.catfisher, go look around on the Lincoln and ESAB websites and read up about different welding processes and fillers and so forth.  There are gigabytes of info just on those two sites to learn more about welding.  There are others on the net as well.www.lincolnelectric.comwww.esabna.comEspecially http://esabna.com/us/en/education/esab-university.cfm  The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderI use several thousand pounds of "Innershield" wire each year, mainly NR-232-.068 and NR-211-5/64.  Results are just as good as dualshield if properly applied
Reply:Originally Posted by andcon83what happens if you do use gas with flux core wire?
Reply:Originally Posted by CamAusFlux core "innershield" is the stuff you guys seem to use, probably ok for home or hobby use because it negates the use of shielding gas which saves money. Have only seen it used in the trade a couple of times welding outdoors at ports where it's quite windy. Results aren't as good as dualshield fluxcore. Runs on DCENFlux core "dualshield" uses shielding gas and produces a smooth flat weld in all positions. Runs on DCEP. Good for medium-heavy fab, I'd rather use mild steel mig wire for anything under 6mm (1/4"). Use it a lot at work.If I was to go to the trouble of buying gas for home, I'd use mild steel mig wire over dual shield wire anyway. More versatile, can weld pretty much anything any thickness with 0.9mm mild steel mig wire
Reply:Originally Posted by CamAusInterested to know the reason and application this is for? Interesting because I've never heard of it being used extensively except for outdoor conditions really. Probably another American/Australian thing? I think some of the wire we use here is actually banned in the USA. Verticore 3XP is the wire we use (cigweld brand)
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeI wonder how many people were real life wise a$$es before there was an internet.
Reply:lol this thread is a mess...Don't even bother trying dual shield wire. The smallest size is .035" I believe and it won't really even run at 90 amps. It seems like my millermatic 175 barely runs the stuff. And probably more importantly than all of that, dual shield really has no place in automotive use, it's meant for thick steel. I love the stuff and have run hundreds of hours of it but the though of doing exhaust pipe with it makes me laugh.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Well it will work it the 90 amp machines you just have to call China and buy the replacement parts and follow the internet instructions on how to install them and then you get a 92 amp machine.... lol Good god damn fellas go to school.