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And found scrap.....Based on the amount of fumes I inhaled..... I don't recommend it....Anyway... A video .......[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHo5GYouzBU[/ame]Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:When zinc vapor mixes with the oxygen in the air, it reacts instantly to become zinc oxide. This is the same white powder that you see on some noses at the beach and the slopes. Zinc oxide is non-toxic and non carcinogenic. Extensive research(1) into the effects of zinc oxide fumes has been done, and although breathing those fumes will cause welders to think that they have the flu in a bad way, there are no long-term health effects.
Reply:Originally Posted by acourtjesterWhen zinc vapor mixes with the oxygen in the air, it reacts instantly to become zinc oxide. This is the same white powder that you see on some noses at the beach and the slopes. Zinc oxide is non-toxic and non carcinogenic. Extensive research(1) into the effects of zinc oxide fumes has been done, and although breathing those fumes will cause welders to think that they have the flu in a bad way, there are no long-term health effects.
Reply:Originally Posted by acourtjesterWhen zinc vapor mixes with the oxygen in the air, it reacts instantly to become zinc oxide. This is the same white powder that you see on some noses at the beach and the slopes. Zinc oxide is non-toxic and non carcinogenic. Extensive research(1) into the effects of zinc oxide fumes has been done, and although breathing those fumes will cause welders to think that they have the flu in a bad way, there are no long-term health effects.
Reply:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fume_fever
Reply:So welding stainless steel is hazardous too?Chromium[4] is also a hazard, from stainless steel.
Reply:Yes welding stainless is hazardous. Look up stainless and hexavalient chromium. There is all sorts of info out there. You should wear a supplied air respirator. In ny your technically supposed to have a special hepa filtration system if your welding stainless, or you can be fined big $. But all 4 or the systems we have have failed every efficiency test they have had, oh I'd say 6 times now.Miller bobcat 225g  - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
Reply:Ps. Not saying you don't, but make sure you have the correct cartridges in your respirator. You need fume rated cartridges. Weari g a respirator with the incorrect cartridge is just as bad as not having one on at all. Be safe, have fun, happy metal meltingMiller bobcat 225g  - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
Reply:is that galvanized steel?  dude!  you dont want to be welding that.  here's a "demo"http://www.anvilfire.com/iForge/tuto...n=safety3/demo
Reply:For the record..... I have just purchased a respirator...... from 3M........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:What cartridges are on itMiller bobcat 225g  - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
Reply:It's a 6200 with 2097 filters...... I figure it's better than the paper maks I have now and it looks like it will fit under my hood really well......Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
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Reply:You want to buy the F? Heck I'll sell it.........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by FexalYou want to buy the F? Heck I'll sell it.........
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Reply:Originally Posted by kolotThat is ridiculous, to much Zinc in any form is toxic.
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Reply:I wear a 3M respirator with the pink 2097 filters.  They do not filter aroma, but they filter fumes supposedly.Miller Diversion 180Hobart Handler 140 (Soon to be replaced with Miller 211?)Miller Spectrum 625 Extreme
Reply:Originally Posted by FexalYou want to buy the F? Heck I'll sell it.........
Reply:I bought some stainless today to make another F..... My garage is going to be F'ed when this is all over......Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by FexalI bought some stainless today to make another F..... My garage is going to be F'ed when this is all over......
Reply:Acourtjester, you seem to be notably quiet now any further comment on how harmless galvanized welding is?"Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:Originally Posted by Jon KI wear a 3M respirator with the pink 2097 filters.  They do not filter aroma, but they filter fumes supposedly.
Reply:Respect to Flexal for listening and acting. I hand a North brand welders "backpack". Filters are hanging of your back, out of the direct fumes so you get more filter life. Always get the filters that filter out as much as possible. For the 2 bucks more, why not. Again, hats of to you and happy welding.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.What the F for?lolThermal Arc Fabricator 2101970 Lincoln RedfaceMiller 150 STLStill need a Syncrowave and a plasma and a milling machine and a lathe and a bigger shop and a....
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWOne of the biggest problems with respirators is ill fitting masks. Facial hair will not allow a mask to seal right most times. Also masks are not a one size fits all type of thing. You really need to get fitted, and know how to fit a mask ( or get fitted by someone who does) to make the most of these. Some faces simply don't seal well with masks.Where I used to work PT, I got sent out with one of the techs to do a service call at a chemical plant. 1st thing we had to do was get fitted for a respirator before we could go on site. They handed him a razor since he had a full beard and pointed him at the rest room to shave it off, or he wasn't coming in or getting fitted.
Reply:Originally Posted by oxy moronis that galvanized steel?  dude!  you dont want to be welding that.  here's a "demo"http://www.anvilfire.com/iForge/tuto...n=safety3/demo
Reply:From the look of the pile of metal in the video it looks like you just may have cut up the dumpster and brought it home.
Reply:Fex, if you lived closer I could keep you over whelmed with good scrap. You can't imagine how much good steel and other stuff our company throws out. Our rolling stock shop is kinda separate from the rest of the plant and we go dumpster diving on the main plants dumpster to pull just the aluminum, copper & brass to recycle separately. So far with the funds we've bought for our shop, a Milwaukee mag base, Wilton upright drill press, 2) 9 piece DeWalt cordless sets, Milwaukee metal saw, Miller Extreme 12 VS, 4 Digital Elite hoods, 2 Stronghand corner clamps, 6 Stronghand welding magnets, Snapon 1/4" cordless screwdriver, Milwaukee portaband, 2 Snapon torque wrenches, 3 Blue Point rechargeable LED work lights and I'm probably missing some stuff. Millermatic 200Hobart Handler 120Victor O/A & Ramco BandsawLincoln 225 ACSnapOn AD HoodMiller XMT304/22AHypertherm Powermax 1650 G3Lincoln Idealarc DC600 w/Extreme 12 VSMiller Digital Elite "Joker"
Reply:Originally Posted by acourtjesterWhen zinc vapor mixes with the oxygen in the air, it reacts instantly to become zinc oxide. This is the same white powder that you see on some noses at the beach and the slopes. Zinc oxide is non-toxic and non carcinogenic. Extensive research(1) into the effects of zinc oxide fumes has been done, and although breathing those fumes will cause welders to think that they have the flu in a bad way, there are no long-term health effects.
Reply:Man be careful you don't want metal fume fever I had it once good God it sucks I didn't know it was possible to throw up that hard I kept my eyes closed cause I thought they were gonna pop out 350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:So I know this is an old thread and all,,. but this question seems to come up a lot on this forum. I sure would like to know the truth about long-term health affects. Acourtjester's statement is just copy and pasted from an article written by Sperko Engineering, portions of which were published in "The Fabricator", March, 1997: http://www.sperkoengineering.com/htm...Galvanized.pdf ... the [1] in his post is a footnote referencing a peer reviewed journal: "Walsh, Sandstead, Prasad, Newberne and Fraker, Environmental Health Perspectives, Volume 102, Supplement 2, June 1994, 5-46.  Provides summary plus 471 references." 471 references is a lot...The rest of the paragraph in that article is also very interesting and worth taking the time to read. More from the American Welding Society which I consider to be a fairly legit source: http://www.aws.org/technical/facts/FACT-25.pdf• Metal Fume Fever is the result of over exposure to zinc fumes from welding, cutting, or brazing on galvanized steel.• Metal Fume Fever is a short–term illness with classic flu–like symptoms.• The permissible exposure limit (PEL) according to OSHA is 5 milligrams of zinc oxide fume per cubic meter of air––always monitor and measure your breathing air.• To avoid the illness, keep your head out of the fumes and do not breathe the fumes. Use enough proper ventilation and/or exhaust. If uncertain about the ventilation, use an approved respirator.• There are no known long–term effects of this disease.Anyway,I think I am convinced that "metal fume fever" is nasty stuff and I sure don't want to get it, but if I do, I don't have to worry about long term health effects. I am willing and open to reading other articles...just please don't point me to anvilfire.com or any other "case studies". Way more interested in science and peer reviewed journal articles.Last edited by takirc02; 01-19-2013 at 07:55 PM.