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Hey Everyone,For a few years now my interest has been in fixing up and using old woodworking equipment from the 30s and 40s. In doing so, I frequently have need for working metal in some capacity and I'm getting tired of always needing to seek help from friends, or farming a job out. I've picked up a nice old torch set up for cutting and brazing and that has suited me well, but I came across a really cool old arc welder the other day and here in-lies my questions.First the welder:It's a Hollup AC Welder N 30 and Heavy as a Tank. It's a little hard to read but the tags says it's 20/285 welding range, 220 volts, 55 amps, 50/60 cycleHere's my question. My garage currently has a 60amp breaker and what appears to be #6 wire that it is hard wired to. The problem is the outlet location is all the way across the room from where I want to set up my welding station. Part one - Which route would better serve me: Run new service to the other side of the garage using #6 wire, or make an extension cord?Part two - If I make an extension cord, I've read that you do not need as heavy duty of wire as 6 gauge - that you can get away with 10 gauge. Is this true, and more specifically true for my welder?Thanks in advance and I'm looking forward to diving into this community. -Todd
Reply:Welcome to the board Todd. No cord from the welder is shown. If it has none, a #8 SOOW cord of necessary length with a 50 amp plug would do you well IMHO. That is what is on my 2 machines that draw over 50 amps.Jerry30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30" vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:My uncle bought the 295 amp version in 1946, and when my cousin died 5 years ago, it was still welding. Bill ran it on #6 w/50 amp breaker. If you ran it full throttle you would trip the breaker, but I doubt you'll ever need 285 amps.
Reply:Thanks guys. Just looked up #8 SOOW - Dang! I'll have more in the cord than the whole welder. Might try some local supply houses.
Reply:Sometimes you can get really good deals on ebay for electrical cord. I bought this one for my 1937 Lincoln not to long ago, but forgot what I paid for it already. Attached ImagesDont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:It would be safer and better in the long run to put in a new outlet with #6 wire close to where you will be using the welder. An extension cord that runs across the whole room will be constantly in the way.On a related note there is a thread for old welders here:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...re-still-usingYou might want to post some pictures there where many people will see them.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Thanks guys. I'll for sure check out the bay, CEP.The one appealing part of the long cord is that the current outlet is by the door, so if I need to work on something outside I'll have the reach, but I do hear you about tripping over cords, John.
Reply:Oh and I'll post over there once I actually start using her, cause right now its "what's the oldest welder that's just setting there".
Reply:What's the difference, tripping over a cord, or welding leads? Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Touché
Reply:Welding leads are lower voltage? I had a guy drop a piece of plate on a 480 cord. Not cool.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12V71Welding leads are lower voltage? I had a guy drop a piece of plate on a 480 cord. Not cool.
Reply:good to see the hollup name tag. have one just like it nothing on it to identify. put a dc box on it and love it.
Reply:Here's a 50 foot, 50 amp cord for about $100.The 25 foot version is about $60 (that's the length I use).As mentioned above, you likely would never need 60 amps of input power. Most common rods I use are all 1/8" and only go up to about 150 amps, 120-135 amps most of the time.http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-3-50-220-V...item565ec23e7bhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/8-3-25-220-V...item5667036ba5Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Thanks Dave!
Reply:We had 100 500 amp welders WW-2 all Hollups they ran forever. Leads or extension cord your choice. A great welder will out last your grand kids .
Reply:Check your local hardware/home supply place too, you can sometimes get good deals on mis-cut/roll leftover pieces of wire.
Reply:Here is a cool looking old welder on Craigslist http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...514779097.htmlTiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:I agree, if your outlet is already by the door, get 50 feet of lead wire, cut one at 20 feet for ground, the other 30 feet for stinger. Then if you feel the need to roll that beast out further in the driveway, then put an extension cord on. Your choice on length? I weld alot outside of my garage door and never roll the Dial-Arc outside. TOO HEAVY!BTWWOW!Someone needs to buy that Lincoln just for the COOL factor!
Reply:Do you all think SO cord would work? I've got a line on it for a $1 a foot.
Reply:SO Cord of adequate gauge should work fine, because you are using it to feed a welder the intermittent demand will allow you to use a smaller size wire. If you were to use the cord for general purpose, you would have to use the heavier wire. My Hobart was shipped with a 12 gauge power cord. For light duty hobby welding, where you so a lot of fitting, grinding, chipping etc., as opposed to constant rod burning.I think you could run your machine on a 10 gauge extension, but there will certainly be someone who will tell you that "Nadogail is So full of it , his eyes are brown".I offer three choices: Good, Fast, & Cheap. You may pick two.Hobart AC/DC StikMate LXHarbor Freight AD HoodHarbor Freight Industrial Chop SawDeVilbis 20 Gallon, 5 HP Compressor
Reply:Originally Posted by toddjbDo you all think SO cord would work? I've got a line on it for a $1 a foot.
Reply:Thanks guys. Shot the guy an email. Waiting to hear back.
Reply:Just pick up 50' of cord. I'm going to cut 30 off and see if I can make a little bit of my money back.Thanks for the input, gents. |
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发表于 2021-8-31 23:06:10