Some welded art raises my eyebrow .

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Tell me…. is there anyone here who would pay 20k for this work of “art” even if you had unlimited funds like the Rockefellers or Kennedys>>>?  My husband said DINKs might buy it so they could boast about how much they spent on bad art. --MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:So where is the art you were talking about, being worth $20,000? Do you have some pictures of it?  I see the pictures you posted, just wondering where the high $$ art is.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauSo where is the art you were talking about, being worth $20,000? Do you have some pictures of it?  I see the pictures you posted, just wondering where the high $$ art is.
Reply:that looks more like kitsch than art to me.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Wow that looks something that would be in the bathroom for the kids.  I guess to each their own, but $20k at least in my house would be buying me all kinds of toolsMiller 350PMiller 30AHobart trekHTP Invertig 221
Reply:I'm glad it's not just me. We just sorta stood there in front of it dumbfounded after we saw the asking price. --All me and the kids could come up with was that the "artist" must have been having an out of body experience if he really thought he'd be able to get 20k for what he created in this economy. For 20k I could buy two decent new/used cars for kids, a new computer for me to get rid of the 10 year old computer I'm using that's still running XP, enough steel to tide me over for the next few years, and I'd still have $$$ left over for things like tools. MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:$20k is just stupid....Stop the legalization of drugs....it's clearly causing problems already....Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Asking is one thing, getting is another!Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:If you set the price high enough then the elite start to think they must be missing the 'message' and will pay a lot for it. "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:That is ridiculous, I wouldn't pay more than scrap weight for it. It would work for a paint roller pan and brush holder though.Thermal arc 211iCk flex-loc 150 & 130Clamps, saws & grindersHarbor freight 80 amp inverter
Reply:Art is in the eye of the beholder. I think my kids surpassed that level in construction paper about grade two. It is all about marketing. If you can get someone to pay that kind of money your a better marketer than me. I know an artist whose medium is paint on canvas. In my opinion he is good and I like his work. He has reach some level of success and is able to live off his painting. But he says "Now I have to die a spectacular death and then my work will be really valuable."---MeltedmetalPS- The government here paid in the millions for a painting that is 3 colored bars on a canvas, They say it is a deal but I don't get it. Guess I am just a heathen.---MeltedmetalLast edited by Meltedmetal; 09-01-2014 at 07:59 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Meltedmetal I think my kids surpassed that level in construction paper about grade two.
Reply:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_FireI don't care what you call it or how you praise it up it isn't worth 1.8 million. Only governments can be this dumb.---Meltedmetal
Reply:Based on skill and quality, Ironheart-ram should be selling his stuff for a million bucks a pieceTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:it's quite common for artist that dont' want to sell their work to just put some pie in the sky number. Being and artist is hard work. I see some aluminum art on ebay and it only goes for a few hundred. I doubt the ebay guys are raking in the bucks but I could be wrong.
Reply:Stuff like that is why I quit the arts and crafts thing years ago. I would take lots of time making a nice well finished piece and not be able to sell it. While I see these things looking like a 2 year old had cut them out with a hatchet selling like hot cakes.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixitStuff like that is why I quit the arts and crafts thing years ago. I would take lots of time making a nice well finished piece and not be able to sell it.
Reply:Where's the art?
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:In 1975? A snob bought a derelict barn off route 7 in Danby VT. His intent was an art gallery. I was 19 and outspoken. I told him I didn't see Danby Vt., a small town with 60 producing dairy farms and 1000 people as a Mecca for artists or art buyers. I was wrong! This guy BSed his way to becoming a destination for the art world. To rub my nose in it, he would show me bank deposit receipts. In the 70s he claimed his commission ran between 10,000 and 30,000 monthly! At the time he had only a few painters capable of drawing a dog, and one sculptor, Peter Farrow I felt were worth a $hit. The rest of the barn full was crap.He's very old now, the gallery is closed. He proved if you build it they will come. Art prices are insane! Of course most artists never sell a thing in a lifetime. Until some pretentious snob says your work is something special, it isn't.By the way, Farrows work has skyrocketed in value. pieces that sold in the seventies for 25 dollars are worth thousands now. Farrow himself committed suicide!
Reply:If you drilled holes in that i would name it "holy sh!t".GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:This piece in particular makes me question the effect that an artist's death or suicide has on the value of their work, but markets can be funny things.
Reply:Hey CEP,  I think some lead splatter would really set off that buck and bear cut out.My name's not Jim....Tell me…. is there anyone here who would pay 20k for this work of “art” even if you had unlimited funds like the Rockefellers or Kennedys>>>?  My husband said DINKs might buy it so they could boast about how much they spent on bad art. --MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:So where is the art you were talking about, being worth $20,000? Do you have some pictures of it?  I see the pictures you posted, just wondering where the high $$ art is.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauSo where is the art you were talking about, being worth $20,000? Do you have some pictures of it?  I see the pictures you posted, just wondering where the high $$ art is.
Reply:that looks more like kitsch than art to me.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Wow that looks something that would be in the bathroom for the kids.  I guess to each their own, but $20k at least in my house would be buying me all kinds of toolsMiller 350PMiller 30AHobart trekHTP Invertig 221
Reply:I'm glad it's not just me. We just sorta stood there in front of it dumbfounded after we saw the asking price. --All me and the kids could come up with was that the "artist" must have been having an out of body experience if he really thought he'd be able to get 20k for what he created in this economy. For 20k I could buy two decent new/used cars for kids, a new computer for me to get rid of the 10 year old computer I'm using that's still running XP, enough steel to tide me over for the next few years, and I'd still have $$$ left over for things like tools. MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:$20k is just stupid....Stop the legalization of drugs....it's clearly causing problems already....Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Asking is one thing, getting is another!Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:If you set the price high enough then the elite start to think they must be missing the 'message' and will pay a lot for it. "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:That is ridiculous, I wouldn't pay more than scrap weight for it. It would work for a paint roller pan and brush holder though.Thermal arc 211iCk flex-loc 150 & 130Clamps, saws & grindersHarbor freight 80 amp inverter
Reply:Art is in the eye of the beholder. I think my kids surpassed that level in construction paper about grade two. It is all about marketing. If you can get someone to pay that kind of money your a better marketer than me. I know an artist whose medium is paint on canvas. In my opinion he is good and I like his work. He has reach some level of success and is able to live off his painting. But he says "Now I have to die a spectacular death and then my work will be really valuable."---MeltedmetalPS- The government here paid in the millions for a painting that is 3 colored bars on a canvas, They say it is a deal but I don't get it. Guess I am just a heathen.---MeltedmetalLast edited by Meltedmetal; 09-01-2014 at 07:59 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Meltedmetal I think my kids surpassed that level in construction paper about grade two.
Reply:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_FireI don't care what you call it or how you praise it up it isn't worth 1.8 million. Only governments can be this dumb.---Meltedmetal
Reply:Based on skill and quality, Ironheart-ram should be selling his stuff for a million bucks a pieceTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:it's quite common for artist that dont' want to sell their work to just put some pie in the sky number. Being and artist is hard work. I see some aluminum art on ebay and it only goes for a few hundred. I doubt the ebay guys are raking in the bucks but I could be wrong.
Reply:Stuff like that is why I quit the arts and crafts thing years ago. I would take lots of time making a nice well finished piece and not be able to sell it. While I see these things looking like a 2 year old had cut them out with a hatchet selling like hot cakes.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixitStuff like that is why I quit the arts and crafts thing years ago. I would take lots of time making a nice well finished piece and not be able to sell it.
Reply:Where's the art?
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I think he added one extra zero. Look at the inside of the base plate, he never even cleaned.
Reply:In 1975? A snob bought a derelict barn off route 7 in Danby VT. His intent was an art gallery. I was 19 and outspoken. I told him I didn't see Danby Vt., a small town with 60 producing dairy farms and 1000 people as a Mecca for artists or art buyers. I was wrong! This guy BSed his way to becoming a destination for the art world. To rub my nose in it, he would show me bank deposit receipts. In the 70s he claimed his commission ran between 10,000 and 30,000 monthly! At the time he had only a few painters capable of drawing a dog, and one sculptor, Peter Farrow I felt were worth a $hit. The rest of the barn full was crap.He's very old now, the gallery is closed. He proved if you build it they will come. Art prices are insane! Of course most artists never sell a thing in a lifetime. Until some pretentious snob says your work is something special, it isn't.By the way, Farrows work has skyrocketed in value. pieces that sold in the seventies for 25 dollars are worth thousands now. Farrow himself committed suicide!
Reply:If you drilled holes in that i would name it "holy sh!t".GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:This piece in particular makes me question the effect that an artist's death or suicide has on the value of their work, but markets can be funny things.
Reply:Hey CEP,  I think some lead splatter would really set off that buck and bear cut out.My name's not Jim....